QPR points deduction?

[Rawlie19]

Wow. That's only taken me 23 hours to read fully through 32 pages...

I can't wait until the announcement is made and I can start ranting and raving properly about the ineptitude of the FA/FL (whichever it is that's making the decision, I've lost track). To throw my 2 penneth worth in now though, I don't care how well they would have done had they not had him, they SEEM on the face of it to have been thoroughly devious in a number of different ways regarding not only this transfer but many going back a number of years and the book should be thrown at them if found guilty. Not 100% confident in the FA/FL to do so though, but I have put £5 on Reading to win the Championship with BetFair, netting me £695 if we pull it off.

A few days ago I put £10 on RFC winning the league at 80/1 with bet365. But I think it's a lost cause.


I also have £10 on Cardiff, Swansea and Norwich at silly odds. The bookies seem pretty sure it isn't going to happen.

I'm not normally a gambling man, but in the summer I opened a BetFair account with £30 just to make games that I'm watching on Sky a little more interesting to me by putting a bet on. Normally ranging from between £2 and £5. I planned to lose no more than £30 in a month and would top it up each month if I did lose the lot, but only at the beginning of a month and if it needed it. During the World Cup Final I got down to my last £5 and 10 minutes before the end of the 120 minutes, while still at 0-0, I put the remaining £5 on a 1-0 Spain win. Since then I haven't had to add anything to the pot, and actually, having been in Nepal for 3 months from the beginning of January, haven't had a bet since Christmas. I put £5 e/w on Oscar Time and £5 e/w on State Of Play in the National, which got me a pretty penny for 2nd and 4th, and then on the Sunday of the Masters, before play began I put £5 on Schwartzel to win. I now have £180 in the pot, all stemming from that £5 on the World Cup Final. If I could turn that into £1000 I'd be a fairly happy chappy Come on FA/FL, you know it makes sense!

[Millsy]

I'm not normally a gambling man, but in the summer I opened a BetFair account with £30 just to make games that I'm watching on Sky a little more interesting to me by putting a bet on. Normally ranging from between £2 and £5. I planned to lose no more than £30 in a month and would top it up each month if I did lose the lot, but only at the beginning of a month and if it needed it. During the World Cup Final I got down to my last £5 and 10 minutes before the end of the 120 minutes, while still at 0-0, I put the remaining £5 on a 1-0 Spain win. Since then I haven't had to add anything to the pot, and actually, having been in Nepal for 3 months from the beginning of January, haven't had a bet since Christmas. I put £5 e/w on Oscar Time and £5 e/w on State Of Play in the National, which got me a pretty penny for 2nd and 4th, and then on the Sunday of the Masters, before play began I put £5 on Schwartzel to win. I now have £180 in the pot, all stemming from that £5 on the World Cup Final. If I could turn that into £1000 I'd be a fairly happy chappy Come on FA/FL, you know it makes sense!

Thanks for that, rainman.

[tink]

I'm sure it's been said before, but i'll say it again anyway...

If they were going to deduct them points irrespective of their league position, then they would have done it already.

Surely the only reason they are waiting until the day before the end of the season is so that they can determine the effect of any penalty.

If a 10 point penalty pushes them into the play-offs then the league will bottle it and dock them less points.

If a 10 point penalty has absolutely no bearing on where QPR finish, then the league will dock them 10 points.

Complicated case means giving QPR time to mount a defence against the charges. The FA can't just say "we say you've broked the rules so we iz punishing youse". There has to be a hearing, and if they want to avoid appeals winning on technicalities they have to give QPR all the opportunity to defend themselves possible.

I take your point, but it just seems that they've had a bloody long time to investigate all this. It's not like they found out yesterday and went "oh bugger, we've only got 3 weeks to look into this". They've known for a heck of a long time, so surely, they should have wrapped up their investigation by now, made a decision, let everyone scream bloody murder, appeal, let the dust settle, and then do nothing.

[Ian Royal]

You're missing the point. The FA have wrapped up their investigation weeks ago. The time is to allow QPR to prepare their defence to the charges. It would be pretty stupid of the FA to keep Cardiff in the loop during it's investigation, how easy would that make it to mislay or falsify evidence?

When the Police arrest and charge someone it's because they've done most of the work needed for their investigation. It still then takes time to go to trial as the defendent must be given access to all the evidence to build a defence against it so it's a fair trial.

Anything else would be a meaningless show trial.

[retro royal]

I think the league only have two options not guilty or dock all points gained when he has played meaning they would be relegated which is 55/1 on betfair

[tink]

OK, but it just seems mighty convenient that the FA come up with the charges, inform QPR, then give them an opportunity to come up with a defence and then announce that the verdict will be handed down the day before the end of the season.

Could they not have said to QPR, here are the charges, you've got until the end of March to prepare a defence, the final hearing will be in mid-April, and then there's 2 weeks for any appeal.

My point is that they could have set a very different timetable. There was absolutely no reason why the decision has to be given on 6 May, as opposed to 6 April.

[Snowball]

I think the league only have two options not guilty or dock all points gained when he has played meaning they would be relegated which is 55/1 on betfair

That's interesting. So there is a market for that, at least

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

I think the league only have two options not guilty or dock all points gained when he has played meaning they would be relegated which is 55/1 on betfair

That's interesting. So there is a market for that, at least

As a number have said - the FA will say " no penalty, please be careful in future...and Bernie about those all- expensespaid weekend tickets for the Monaco Grand Prix............. "

[Once were Biscuitmen]

At the moment we don't look like we will finish 3rd anyway, so it won't matter for us.
Unless we can finish third, it's really not very important what happens to QPR.

Unless they are fined just enough points to drop them into the play-offs where they destroy us over two legs.

[PEARCEY]

If QPR end up in the play-offs it will be a massive downer for them. I dont think they would destroy us. Stop Tarrabt. Stop QPR.

[Snowball]

If QPR end up in the play-offs it will be a massive downer for them. I dont think they would destroy us. Stop Tarrabt. Stop QPR.

+1


If they drop into the POs there's a good chance they won't even make it to Wembley

[Barry the bird boggler]

If QPR end up in the play-offs it will be a massive downer for them. I dont think they would destroy us. Stop Tarrabt. Stop QPR.

Remember that if that did happen and we had to play them we couldn't play Leigertwood....

[PEARCEY]

If QPR end up in the play-offs it will be a massive downer for them. I dont think they would destroy us. Stop Tarrabt. Stop QPR.

Remember that if that did happen and we had to play them we couldn't play Leigertwood....

Not helpful. Agreed.

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

See the championship trophy was at cardiff today should results have gone QPRs way........how can you present a trophy and then take it away if an FA case decision says so...another example of the sniffiness thats going behind the scenes with their charge .....but also suggests that as expected, its a slap wrist..and the trophy will be open for public viewing at Loftus Road in the near future!

[T.R.O.L.I.]

Was it there to present to QPR or was it there as a studio decoration (as with the FA Cup in the rounds before the final)?

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

Was it there to present to QPR or was it there as a studio decoration (as with the FA Cup in the rounds before the final)?

Saw trophy there...blood boiled....made post ! but you make a very valid point....i still believe that theres shannanigans going on though !

[SpaceCruiser]

In Colin's post match interview, he described himself and David Jones as honest managers. That is a real hoot, isn't it!

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

In Colin's post match interview, he described himself and David Jones as honest managers. That is a real hoot, isn't it!

SC..another example of the QPR fraternity making themselves look whiter than white before they are exonerated by the FA , I am sure

[FiNeRaIn]

In Colin's post match interview, he described himself and David Jones as honest managers. That is a real hoot, isn't it!

Some people on facebook disagree: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=10150145041215417

The people that have joined that group are retards.

That is all.

[SpaceCruiser]

In Colin's post match interview, he described himself and David Jones as honest managers. That is a real hoot, isn't it!

Some people on facebook disagree: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=10150145041215417

The people that have joined that group are retards.

That is all.

Are you disagreeing with the sentiment of that group?