QPR points deduction?

[West Stand Man]

There is a fairly simple solution to this problem. The appeal is allowed, but the verdict stands until the appeal decides otherwise. Hence, if they are deducted x points and that puts them in the play offs that is what happens. If they win the appeal then the real issues will start - but at least this season will have been sorted.

This is a pretty well precedented route. If you are found guilty of murder and sentenced to life you don't appeal from the comfort of your own living room, the verdict stands until revoked and so you go to jail.

[tink]

There is a fairly simple solution to this problem. The appeal is allowed, but the verdict stands until the appeal decides otherwise. Hence, if they are deducted x points and that puts them in the play offs that is what happens. If they win the appeal then the real issues will start - but at least this season will have been sorted.

This is a pretty well precedented route. If you are found guilty of murder and sentenced to life you don't appeal from the comfort of your own living room, the verdict stands until revoked and so you go to jail.

You could always apply for bail, so whilst you may have been found guilty, you could be released on bail pending the appeal. It really depends on whether the court thinks there are strong prospects that the appeal will succeed.

So in QPR's case, whilst they might receive a sentence (i.e. demoted to play-offs) if they were to appeal the decision, they may get released on bail until the appeal is heard (i.e. play-offs get suspended).

I think everyone can agree it's going to be a complete mess when it all shakes out and i think the appeals, either from QPR, cardiff, norwich, us, swansea will rumble on for some time to come, either in a football sense or a civil sense, like sheff utd's situation.

[tink]

But here's a nice thought. Maybe some poetic justice to come out of this.

94/95 - the only team to ever finish second and not get automatically promoted to the 1st Div/PL.
10/11 - the only team to ever finish third and get automatically promoted to the 1st Div/PL???

[RFCUK]

But here's a nice thought. Maybe some poetic justice to come out of this.

94/95 - the only team to ever finish second and not get automatically promoted to the 1st Div/PL.
10/11 - the only team to ever finish third and get automatically promoted to the 1st Div/PL???

^^This. I think we deserve a bit of luck.

[Mr Angry]

See the championship trophy was at cardiff today should results have gone QPRs way........how can you present a trophy and then take it away if an FA case decision says so...another example of the sniffiness thats going behind the scenes with their charge .....but also suggests that as expected, its a slap wrist..and the trophy will be open for public viewing at Loftus Road in the near future!

QPR were NEVER going to get the trophy on Saturday; how could they when all victory would have meant was that they would have been PROMOTED. Even had they won, Norwich could still pip them for the Championship trophy itself.

Also, despite the fact that we were acclaimed as Champions in 05/06 at the beginning of April, we didn't actually receive the trophy until after the last game of the season.

I would imagine that will happen this season as well.

[Tredder]

I think the key word to all this thread is

Desperate

Enjoy the play offs and hopefully we'll see you next season in the prem, how to make a story seem more attractive, spice it up with attention seeking headlines, if you seriously think the FA would deduct points one game before the end of the season, then even the FA are more facical than i give them credit for, most of this is lazy journalism.

If, IF, we are found guilty on any of the charges, then we will accept the consequences, but this will be a fine, we are not saying, ok chuck us a fine and we'll pay it.

It's teams like Reading and Cardiff that seem to be having a wank over this more than any other team, i presume, because neither wants to get dicked by Swansea.

Enjoy the play offs and hopefully we'll see you next season in the prem, 6 points again would be nice.

[Tredder]

RL - I think the vast majority of the media are on the same page as most that think this is going to result in very little punitive action being taken

Back in March when the charges were announced it made the press, the day after it was fish and chip paper and thats how it will stay imho

^^^^
The only logical posting individual on this thread.

[Tredder]

Oh, 35 pages ALOL

[Ian Royal]

I think the key word to all this thread is

Desperate

Enjoy the play offs and hopefully we'll see you next season in the prem, how to make a story seem more attractive, spice it up with attention seeking headlines, if you seriously think the FA would deduct points one game before the end of the season, then even the FA are more facical than i give them credit for, most of this is lazy journalism.

If, IF, we are found guilty on any of the charges, then we will accept the consequences, but this will be a fine, we are not saying, ok chuck us a fine and we'll pay it.

It's teams like Reading and Cardiff that seem to be having a wank over this more than any other team, i presume, because neither wants to get dicked by Swansea.

Enjoy the play offs and hopefully we'll see you next season in the prem, 6 points again would be nice.

enjoying the Warnock irony more than anything tbh.

I think there's very little chance of Swansea dicking anyone at the moment, let alone us over two legs

[Mid Sussex Royal]

But here's a nice thought. Maybe some poetic justice to come out of this.

94/95 - the only team to ever finish second and not get automatically promoted to the 1st Div/PL.
10/11 - the only team to ever finish third and get automatically promoted to the 1st Div/PL???

Sides finishing 3rd always used to go up automatically before the play-offs were introduced.

[rhroyal]

The FA/FL won't just have to consider QPR and team in 3rd. I think teams in the play-offs won't be happy is QPR enter them; they're a cut above the rest of this division. I'd certainly not be happy if we ended up playing them at Wembley. Would the hearing consider the teams from 4th - 6th when looking at the penalty?

[FiNeRaIn]

The FA/FL won't just have to consider QPR and team in 3rd. I think teams in the play-offs won't be happy is QPR enter them; they're a cut above the rest of this division. I'd certainly not be happy if we ended up playing them at Wembley. Would the hearing consider the teams from 4th - 6th when looking at the penalty?

Totally irrelevant and silly comments.

[RobRoyal]

I think the key word to all this thread is

Desperate

Enjoy the play offs and hopefully we'll see you next season in the prem, how to make a story seem more attractive, spice it up with attention seeking headlines, if you seriously think the FA would deduct points one game before the end of the season, then even the FA are more facical than i give them credit for, most of this is lazy journalism.

If, IF, we are found guilty on any of the charges, then we will accept the consequences, but this will be a fine, we are not saying, ok chuck us a fine and we'll pay it.

It's teams like Reading and Cardiff that seem to be having a wank over this more than any other team, i presume, because neither wants to get dicked by Swansea.

Enjoy the play offs and hopefully we'll see you next season in the prem, 6 points again would be nice.

You're the best team in the division. It's a fecking shame that your title win will always be tainted by this. Wouldn't you love to have known whether you could have won the division without cheating? I hope it doesn't devalue your achievement.

[roadrunner]

Agree with what was said on the FL Show last night. It'll only be a fine. They've left it too late to throw a points deduction at them and not give them time to respond to it.

[brendywendy]

deduct so many points that they arent even in the playoffs, that makes it all alot simpler.

[peterroyal76]

Oh, 35 pages ALOL

LOL viewing another clubs forum when you're not due to play them or haven't recently played them!

[brendywendy]

its 35 pages, cos we hate you a little,& hate colin alot. its a perfect h8 storm.
i would find it hilarious if the one time you managed to get yourselves together enough to go up in 15 years, you cock it up due to the same financial irregularities that colin moaned about at sheffield united. it would be quite literally the funniest thing ive ever seen in football. even funnier than cantonas kung fu kick.
its 35 pages because the tiny chance it has of coming true is enough to keep us chortling until the day of the verdict. does that make us sad and bitter? probably.
but if it doesnt happen, meh, im sure well cope.

[Ian Royal]

The FA/FL won't just have to consider QPR and team in 3rd. I think teams in the play-offs won't be happy is QPR enter them; they're a cut above the rest of this division. I'd certainly not be happy if we ended up playing them at Wembley. Would the hearing consider the teams from 4th - 6th when looking at the penalty?

Of course they shouldn't. The penalty should be decided on the offence and have nothing to do with what the league table looks like.

[FiNeRaIn]

its 35 pages, cos we hate you, hate colin, and would find it hilarious if the one time you managed to get yourselves together enough to go up, you cock it up due to the same financial iregularities that colin moaned about at sheffield united. would be literally the funniest thing ive ever seen in football. even funnier than cantonas kung fu kick.
its 35 pages because the tiny chance it has of coming true is enough to keep us chortling until the day of the verdict.
if it doesnt happen, meh, im sure well cope.

Desperation.

[RoyalBlue]

If QPR are found guilt of the offences as charged, they should have the book thrown at them and be deducted points.

I would feel some sympathy for their fans who, of course, are entirely blameless in the affair but QPR as a club should not be allowed to cheat their way to the title and the PL. And before any of their supporters bleat on about the number of points won justifying their prize, those points were won with the player who is at the centre of the charges playing a very active role. In other words it would be no different from West Ham cheating their way to PL survival thanks to Tevez's contribution.