So who should we fear in the Swansea team

[Maguire]

From the club's twitter:
"Wembley pitch: 115x75 yards. Madejski Stadium: 114.82x74.37yards. Liberty Stadium: 115x74yards. Any talk of the big Wembley pitch is wrong!"

Well it's wrong given that Wembley has a bigger pitch

[i'll_be_there]

We're doomed aren't we? Why are we bothering to turn up?

Because we follow our team and we want to get back into the Premier League, dont we? Yeah Swansea are good, but we've beat them in the past (speaking for both teams here). Anyway, forget about the stats and past fixtures, it all depends on those 90 mins on the day. Its like exams, its only easy if you know the answers, the game is only easy if you know what to do and how to beat them.

[swansea jack]

and the relevant stat is RFC v Swansea

Away, they have let in 5 more goals and lost 6 more games

Presume that means all the other stats you've posted are irrelevant?

[Snowball]

and the relevant stat is RFC v Swansea

Away, they have let in 5 more goals and lost 6 more games

Presume that means all the other stats you've posted are irrelevant?

I wasn't talking to you, just replying to Mr Angry. Swans have a huge stat (that they beat us twice)
and that is FANTASTIC because the current RFC side would not have lost either of those games.

Here's another stat. Reading 6-3 Cardiff versus Cardiff 1-1 Swansea

We are unbeaten by Cardiff this season. You managed to lose and scored just one goal against them.

[T.R.O.L.I.]

because the current RFC side would not have lost either of those games.

In your opinion. Care to show some evidence to conclusively prove this statement?

Here's another stat. Reading 6-3 Cardiff versus Cardiff 1-1 Swansea

We are unbeaten by Cardiff this season. You managed to lose and scored just one goal against them.

This one is more relevant, however you have included a playoff game which Swansea obviously are unable to include - slightly skewed starting point, no?

[swansea jack]

Presume that means all the other stats you've posted are irrelevant?

I wasn't talking to you, just replying to Mr Angry. Swans have a huge stat (that they beat us twice)
and that is FANTASTIC because the current RFC side would not have lost either of those games.

Here's another stat. Reading 6-3 Cardiff versus Cardiff 1-1 Swansea

We are unbeaten by Cardiff this season. You managed to lose and scored just one goal against them.

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Can you spot the relevant stat related line...? The only one that matters.

[Snowball]

because the current RFC side would not have lost either of those games.

In your opinion. Care to show some evidence to conclusively prove this statement?

Here's another stat. Reading 6-3 Cardiff versus Cardiff 1-1 Swansea

We are unbeaten by Cardiff this season. You managed to lose and scored just one goal against them.

This one is more relevant, however you have included a playoff game which Swansea obviously are unable to include - slightly skewed starting point, no?

NO.

We led Cardiff 1-0 and they "equalised" with a dodgy goal.

We led Cardiff 1-0 and 2-1 in Cardiff.

We drew 0-0 with Cardiff (without Kebe)

We beat Cardiff 3-0 on their patch (without Kebe and without HRK)


4 games, we led in 3 of them, undefeated in all of them, and +3 Goals.

Whether Swansea played 3-4 is irrelevant. Their form against Cardiff is WL 1-1 and ours is clearly better (against Cardiff) and that's all I was trying to show.

[wolsey]

We're doomed aren't we? Why are we bothering to turn up?

Because we follow our team and we want to get back into the Premier League, dont we? Yeah Swansea are good, but we've beat them in the past (speaking for both teams here). Anyway, forget about the stats and past fixtures, it all depends on those 90 mins on the day. Its like exams, its only easy if you know the answers, the game is only easy if you know what to do and how to beat them.

I take it you don't do irony.

[Snowball]

because the current RFC side would not have lost either of those games.

In your opinion. Care to show some evidence to conclusively prove this statement?

Of course not, but only a deaf dumb and blind idiot would ignore our league form record with Elwood playing
or deny that Shane Long's form is massively better than in the first game, or deny that Karacan has come on playing alongside Elwood.

Just to remind you (and he didn't play in either Swansea game)

League games only

P22 W12 D9 L1 44-24 GD=20

45 Points from 22 Games = 2.05 ppg extrapolating to a 94 Point season.

Good enough to have been champions this season, by a clear six points.

Here's another stat. Reading 6-3 Cardiff versus Cardiff 1-1 Swansea

We are unbeaten by Cardiff this season. You managed to lose and scored just one goal against them.

This one is more relevant, however you have included a playoff game which Swansea obviously are unable to include - slightly skewed starting point, no?[/quote]


NO

[swansea jack]

We led Cardiff 1-0 and they "equalised" with a dodgy goal.

We led Cardiff 1-0 and 2-1 in Cardiff.

We drew 0-0 with Cardiff (without Kebe)

We beat Cardiff 3-0 on their patch (without Kebe and without HRK)


4 games, we led in 3 of them, undefeated in all of them, and +3 Goals.

Whether Swansea played 3-4 is irrelevant. Their form against Cardiff is WL 1-1 and ours is clearly better (against Cardiff) and that's all I was trying to show.

Sample size FAIL.

So I presume you won 1 game and drew 3 giving a win ratio of 25%. We won 1 of 2 so have a 50% win ratio.

[Platypuss]

[quote="Snowball]only a deaf dumb and blind idiot would ignore our league form record [/quote]

"Bristol City"

[Snowball]

We led Cardiff 1-0 and they "equalised" with a dodgy goal.

We led Cardiff 1-0 and 2-1 in Cardiff.

We drew 0-0 with Cardiff (without Kebe)

We beat Cardiff 3-0 on their patch (without Kebe and without HRK)


4 games, we led in 3 of them, undefeated in all of them, and +3 Goals.

Whether Swansea played 3-4 is irrelevant. Their form against Cardiff is WL 1-1 and ours is clearly better (against Cardiff) and that's all I was trying to show.

Sample size FAIL.

So I presume you won 1 game and drew 3 giving a win ratio of 25%. We won 1 of 2 so have a 50% win ratio.

AND A 50% LOSE RATIO


Whereas Cardiff, who couldn't beat us playing with 12 men, managed to do you on your patch!

[T.R.O.L.I.]

because the current RFC side would not have lost either of those games.

In your opinion. Care to show some evidence to conclusively prove this statement?

Of course not, but only a deaf dumb and blind idiot would ignore our league form record with Elwood playing
or deny that Shane Long's form is massively better than in the first game, or deny that Karacan has come on playing alongside Elwood.

Just to remind you (and he didn't play in either Swansea game)

League games only

P22 W12 D9 L1 44-24 GD=20

45 Points from 22 Games = 2.05 ppg extrapolating to a 94 Point season.

Good enough to have been champions this season, by a clear six points.

Irrelevant - you said "the current RFC side would not have lost either of those games" (see I can do large letter too )

I know that Leigertwood didn't play against Swansea this season and also that the team's results in the last 22 games have been promotion form however you can't say we would not have not lost against Swansea.

You could say "I don't think we would have lost" however the current RFC side lost at home to Sheffield Utd (regardless of "being 2-0 and coasting" or whatever spin you try to put on it) so your definitive statement is incorrect.

I now expect you to bombard this thread with a load of stats trying to "prove" me wrong - why not save us all the trouble and just accept that you should have caveated your statement in the first place.

[Snowball]

The side with Elwood would not have lost those games.

[Wycombe Royal]

The side with Ledge might not have lost those games.

Corrected for you.

[swansea jack]

Sample size FAIL.

So I presume you won 1 game and drew 3 giving a win ratio of 25%. We won 1 of 2 so have a 50% win ratio.

AND A 50% LOSE RATIO


Whereas Cardiff, who couldn't beat us playing with 12 men, managed to do you on your patch!

Extrapolated over a season:

50% win ratio = 25% wins, 75% draws.

Whodathunkit?

[T.R.O.L.I.]

The side with Ledge might not have lost those games.

Corrected for you.

Indeed - or even:

"In my opinion, the side with Ledge might not have lost those games" oe "The side with Ledge would probably have not lost those games".

[Svlad Cjelli]

How about - "change one single factor in such a complicate and multi-factor and you change so much that it's absolutely impossible to say what would have happened"?

[Mintymurray]

So, not that much to fear apart from the pitch size then.

[Snowball]

The side with Ledge might not have lost those games.

Corrected for you.

The side with Elwood would not have lost those games.