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Re: No Ambition

by Sir Dodger Royal » 31 May 2011 06:53

Look the Madman is a TW*T. He has milked the Club and will continue to do so.

'Long has all the right credentials to go to the very top of the game. He's hard working and extremely cool in front of goal. I don't know if he will end up at Celtic but what is certain is that he will not be at Reading next season.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z1NuGNFEVq

Get a life. This club is going nowhere whilst the Madman is in charge. Disappointed that we didn't make it but let's be honest he would not have made any real significant investment if we had won and we would have been hammered every week.

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Re: No Ambition

by Matt de K » 31 May 2011 08:45

I think you'll find that, actually, the real facts were that we already knew that if we didn't get promoted, Long was off. Do keep up :roll:

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Re: No Ambition

by Handsome Man » 31 May 2011 08:55

Sir Dodger Royal Look the Madman is a TW*T. He has milked the Club and will continue to do so.

'Long has all the right credentials to go to the very top of the game. He's hard working and extremely cool in front of goal. I don't know if he will end up at Celtic but what is certain is that he will not be at Reading next season.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z1NuGNFEVq

Get a life. This club is going nowhere whilst the Madman is in charge. Delighted that we didn't make it but let's be honest he would not have made any real significant investment if we had won and we would have been hammered every week.

Real facts in the Real World. Wake up and good nightttttttttttt

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Re: No Ambition

by trueroyal1871 » 31 May 2011 09:24

Some people need to get real, players leave and new players come in that's the nature of the game. I know we'd all like to keep hold of our best players but if they want to play at a higher level then they will, also Madejski isn't wealthy enough to rinse £5-6 million on new players over a season so we have to be careful about who we bring in and hope they're up to the job. We've got some good players coming through and I have no doubt that the players that leave will be replaced, whether they're potentially as good is another question.

We'll be ok next season and I think we should look forward to another top half of the table finish. People can moan about Madejski and the club having no ambition but honestly do you know anyone wealthier that is willing to invest more in to the club than he does?

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Re: No Ambition

by Woodcote Royal » 31 May 2011 10:28

Finch Think a summer of 'Madejski out' is in order.

No doubt Long et al will be sold for huge sums and not re-invested.

Time for one of the Reading supporting rich arabs who loves the club dearly to come and get Reading into the top four. They're lining up don't you know.


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Re: No Ambition

by Hungerford Bee » 31 May 2011 12:35

Anytime that you don't want your benefactor amy more then feel free to send him the short distance up the M4 to where he would be appreciated.

Where would you be without him?

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Re: No Ambition

by Svlad Cjelli » 31 May 2011 12:38

Hungerford Bee Anytime that you don't want your benefactor amy more then feel free to send him the short distance up the M4 to where he would be appreciated.

Where would you be without him?


But the point is that he's not a benefactor - and that's what some people have a problem with.

He puts no money into the club and takes no money out. His big investment is in the stadium, hotel, training ground etc, and that'll be repaid when he sells the club.

But the club now stands or falls entirely on its own two feet - nothing in, nothing out.

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Re: No Ambition

by Jackson Corner » 31 May 2011 12:51

Bristol City, Cardiff, Ipswich, Boro and leicester. All invested much more in there squads than us, made huge loses and didn't even make the play offs.

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Re: No Ambition

by loyalroyal4life » 31 May 2011 13:00

Cripple Creek Frankly I'm surprised Mr Dowd is the hate figure. Reading were, very, very, very lucky not to be playing with 10 men for most of the match. Dowd's decision not to send our Georgian off would have been an appalling one to any neutrals watching.



What about our penalty shout for hand ball don't you think that should have been given?


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Re: No Ambition

by Forbury Lion » 31 May 2011 15:43

Sir Dodger Royal Look the Madman is a TW*T. He has milked the Club and will continue to do so.
Do you have any real facts to substantiate that claim?

Personally, If I buy a failing business that customers were desperate to see saved and turn it around after investing large sums of my own money I would be a bit miffed if the customers started complaining that I had the audacity to take a dividend/charge the entity interest on the amounts invested. Furthermore I would object strongly to their suggestions that I stand aside for a buyer who isn't there to take over. Particularly when the business is in the best shape it's ever been in and trading at a profit compared to rivals.

Yes, a football club is a different to other forms of business, but it is still a business. As fans we have to factor that into our expectations.

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Re: No Ambition

by Millsy » 31 May 2011 16:48

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Re: No Ambition

by Jimmy the Tree » 31 May 2011 17:01

Svlad Cjelli
Hungerford Bee Anytime that you don't want your benefactor amy more then feel free to send him the short distance up the M4 to where he would be appreciated.

Where would you be without him?


But the point is that he's not a benefactor - and that's what some people have a problem with.

He puts no money into the club and takes no money out. His big investment is in the stadium, hotel, training ground etc, and that'll be repaid when he sells the club.

But the club now stands or falls entirely on its own two feet - nothing in, nothing out.


Isn't he also still owed the money he put in for the years we consistently ran at a loss? Or has that been repaid and i missed it?

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Re: No Ambition

by RoyalBlue » 31 May 2011 17:20

Libertine If the team's ambition is to stay in the Championship, and I am not saying it is but we'll see what happens over the summer, then we will struggle to remain in the Championship. So I disagree with the premise that there is no ambition, just a question of what our ambitions are. PL? Championship? A well run division 2 team? I cannot make that judgement until I see what transpires over the summer...



Very well said.

Just one word of caution, please let no-one try to claim that the extra cash derived from a very good cup run and a trip to the playoff final were already budgetted for at the start of the financial year!

If they do then I will blame the Chairman for not using that foresight to ensure we scooped the Euro Millions several times during the season and for not betting against us winning yesterday! :wink:

Fingers crossed. Reconciled to seeing Shane leave - he's given his all to us and deserves PL football next season but hope that McD will be given a substantial amount of the proceeds to reinvest. Unless we are going to dramatically change our style of play we need to sign someone in the Shane Long (2010/11) mould and that will cost money. At least there are some vaguely promising words from the Chairman "If people do leave, then no doubt we can compensate for it. If we let players go, we can invest in new players." but I hope he realises how significant the investment may need to be.


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Re: No Ambition

by Svlad Cjelli » 31 May 2011 19:49

Jimmy the Tree
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Hungerford Bee Anytime that you don't want your benefactor amy more then feel free to send him the short distance up the M4 to where he would be appreciated.

Where would you be without him?


But the point is that he's not a benefactor - and that's what some people have a problem with.

He puts no money into the club and takes no money out. His big investment is in the stadium, hotel, training ground etc, and that'll be repaid when he sells the club.

But the club now stands or falls entirely on its own two feet - nothing in, nothing out.


Isn't he also still owed the money he put in for the years we consistently ran at a loss? Or has that been repaid and i missed it?


Some of it still sits on the balance sheet.

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Re: No Ambition

by Libertine » 31 May 2011 20:04

RoyalBlue
Libertine If the team's ambition is to stay in the Championship, and I am not saying it is but we'll see what happens over the summer, then we will struggle to remain in the Championship. So I disagree with the premise that there is no ambition, just a question of what our ambitions are. PL? Championship? A well run division 2 team? I cannot make that judgement until I see what transpires over the summer...



Very well said.

Just one word of caution, please let no-one try to claim that the extra cash derived from a very good cup run and a trip to the playoff final were already budgetted for at the start of the financial year!

If they do then I will blame the Chairman for not using that foresight to ensure we scooped the Euro Millions several times during the season and for not betting against us winning yesterday! :wink:

Fingers crossed. Reconciled to seeing Shane leave - he's given his all to us and deserves PL football next season but hope that McD will be given a substantial amount of the proceeds to reinvest. Unless we are going to dramatically change our style of play we need to sign someone in the Shane Long (2010/11) mould and that will cost money. At least there are some vaguely promising words from the Chairman "If people do leave, then no doubt we can compensate for it. If we let players go, we can invest in new players." but I hope he realises how significant the investment may need to be.


Agreed. I knew Shane was leaving if we didn't go up. And with the emergence of McCarthy I won't be gutted by Feds leaving. Nor Kebe. If we start losing players like Jem and Mills we will have no choice but to buy. But barring a mass exodus we do have enough here to field a solid team. If the team is going to be a contender for promotion again it depends on how much McD is given to spend. The thing that kinda bothers me is McD's loyalty to his players, especially the current ones. So instead of pushing to go out and get a striker we might see Hunt and Church up front...with McD confident that Church will be next year's Long in terms of being a player whom finally finds his form. I hope he does find his form, he was about as far off of it as a player could be this past season, but I am a bit worried that he won't and we'll be scuffling along in the bottom half of the table until the January window when we do pick-up someone.

Bottom line is this team is still solid and just one or two smart moves away from being a team which is a strong contender for promotion in 2011/2012. And hopefully Madjeski realizes that spending money is really an investment in his asset, the team. And if he really does want to sell it would be wise to make what he has as attractive as possible, within reason of course. :wink:

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