RUMOUR: Mills to Wolves (leicester bid accepted)

[zummerset]

Seriously the only people who haven't moved on from his finger are you and sandman.

I like to think that the finger was personally aimed at me because I was giving him sh1tloads of abuse for the 15 idiotic mong balls he kept hitting diagonally (intercepted each and everytime). Still quite like the bloke tho..

[who are ya?]

I'm with you on that one SKB, can't get my head round why so many wouldn't be bothered to see him leave. I would rather keep a top Championship defender who on his day can be as important as any player we've had for quite a while than take 3 million quid that we won't see again.
Yes, it will be no suprise when ShLong leaves for a bigger club but to roll over and sell the likes of Mills after a Championship play-off final will just look pretty shit on us.

[retro royal]

Jack Hobbs is available for about 800k from Leicester

[West Stand Man]

Well there must be something influencing your dislike towards him, as he is clearly our best centre half, at a great age and is only going to get better. Also Club captain.....

Yeah, it's the way he can't control himself, has ropey positioning, hoofs the ball all the time and commits loads of unnecessary cynical fouls. I think he's an awful person to make captain because he doesn't set a good example at all.

At the risk of upsetting Colin Cheeselog as well- what utter trite and tripe.

[Ian Royal]

You Mills haters are deluded. What standard of player do you want at this level? Matt Mills is an excellent Championship centre-back. The Premier League agrees if the Premier League want to buy him.

So you want a better player than Mills? OK, name one that would be a realistic target that's proven at this level?

One of the meanest defences in the Championship last year by the way with only ONE regular centre back - Matt Mills.

I was watching the 2002-3 and 2003-4 seasons back the other day and couldn't believe how competitive we were with players like an aging Adi Williams and a calamitous John Mackie.

Mills is really decent and although not quite up to the standards of Matty Upson when he was here on loan, I think he can be as good as Upson one day. How old is Mills? 24?

I don't want a higher standard of player. I want a more reliable player. I'll take a solid 7/10 every gamer, over a sometimes 9/10 sometimes 5/10 player any day of the week.

I don't think Mills isn't a very talented player. He clearly is, and he's been fantastic in quite a few games - notably big occasions usually. He also fouls up on a regular basis. Forgive me if I think the most important attributes in a centreback are calmness, reliability and intelligence.

When we swapped Bikey for Mills I was hoping for someone more reliable, he is, but barely. I'd rather have mental case Bikey back over Mills if we have to have someone who's going to make a fair few big mistakes.



Oh, and no problems with people disagreeing with this... it's all opinion and when it's such a close thing between utter brilliance and not quite good enough it's always going to polarise opinion. Just don't oxf*rd tell me I think he's not good enough because he gave the finger to someone else. (Not aimed at you SKB.)

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

Well there must be something influencing your dislike towards him, as he is clearly our best centre half, at a great age and is only going to get better. Also Club captain.....

Yeah, it's the way he can't control himself, has ropey positioning, hoofs the ball all the time and commits loads of unnecessary cynical fouls. I think he's an awful person to make captain because he doesn't set a good example at all.

...a very weak argument, the fact that at least 4 premier clubs are showing an interest says that the guy is a quality defender .....the "weaknesses" you identify are probably mirrored in most central defenders in most teams in this league and even the prem league ...so why are you so ante ???...I think its personal IR...I think you fancy his Mrs and are hugely jealous...how does your lady compare??

[Ian Royal]

They're after him because of his obvious talent and potential. They're hoping to make him into a reliable player.

[muzza]

Jack Hobbs is available for about 800k from Leicester

VERY good player i think!

[biscuitman]

Nooo to Jack Hobbs.

[LoyalRoyal22]

Well there must be something influencing your dislike towards him, as he is clearly our best centre half, at a great age and is only going to get better. Also Club captain.....

Yeah, it's the way he can't control himself, has ropey positioning, hoofs the ball all the time and commits loads of unnecessary cynical fouls. I think he's an awful person to make captain because he doesn't set a good example at all.

He can control himself,how many times has he been sent off? Its nice to see abit of passion( and his celebration in the play-off final) He sets a perfect example, all the atributes to be a leader which he already is.

Hoofball is instructed by BM and the coaching staff!!!! High tempo, which means centre halfs get it forward quickly!! Not his fault.

But agree with the cheap free kicks, but he only going to get better pal.

[LoyalRoyal22]

Nooo to Jack Hobbs.

I would take Hoobs

[Schards#2]

I don't want a higher standard of player. I want a more reliable player. I'll take a solid 7/10 every gamer, over a sometimes 9/10 sometimes 5/10 player any day of the week.

I don't think Mills isn't a very talented player. He clearly is, and he's been fantastic in quite a few games - notably big occasions usually. He also fouls up on a regular basis. Forgive me if I think the most important attributes in a centreback are calmness, reliability and intelligence.

When we swapped Bikey for Mills I was hoping for someone more reliable, he is, but barely. I'd rather have mental case Bikey back over Mills if we have to have someone who's going to make a fair few big mistakes.

Oh, and no problems with people disagreeing with this... it's all opinion and when it's such a close thing between utter brilliance and not quite good enough it's always going to polarise opinion. Just don't oxf*rd tell me I think he's not good enough because he gave the finger to someone else. (Not aimed at you SKB.)

If Mills was the finished article, he'd be worth £6m +, he isn't, he's a 24 year old who is still learning. But you can coach discipline and consistenncy into a player and much of it comes with age and experience, you can't coach natural ability or will to win or passion into someone who hasn't got it and Mills has it in abundance. I can accept the club having to sell Long but if they can't keep hold of the likes of Mills and Karacen, that's a different matter.

[Man Friday]

Well said. It's not as though we'd see any benefit from that £3m. If we have any ambition we need to keep Mills.

[royalsroyalsroyals92]

You Mills haters are deluded. What standard of player do you want at this level? Matt Mills is an excellent Championship centre-back. The Premier League agrees if the Premier League want to buy him.

So you want a better player than Mills? OK, name one that would be a realistic target that's proven at this level?

One of the meanest defences in the Championship last year by the way with only ONE regular centre back - Matt Mills.

I was watching the 2002-3 and 2003-4 seasons back the other day and couldn't believe how competitive we were with players like an aging Adi Williams and a calamitous John Mackie.

Mills is really decent and although not quite up to the standards of Matty Upson when he was here on loan, I think he can be as good as Upson one day. How old is Mills? 24?

I don't want a higher standard of player. I want a more reliable player. I'll take a solid 7/10 every gamer, over a sometimes 9/10 sometimes 5/10 player any day of the week.

I don't think Mills isn't a very talented player. He clearly is, and he's been fantastic in quite a few games - notably big occasions usually. He also fouls up on a regular basis. Forgive me if I think the most important attributes in a centreback are calmness, reliability and intelligence.

When we swapped Bikey for Mills I was hoping for someone more reliable, he is, but barely. I'd rather have mental case Bikey back over Mills if we have to have someone who's going to make a fair few big mistakes.



Oh, and no problems with people disagreeing with this... it's all opinion and when it's such a close thing between utter brilliance and not quite good enough it's always going to polarise opinion. Just don't oxf*rd tell me I think he's not good enough because he gave the finger to someone else. (Not aimed at you SKB.)

Always rated Mills as ive said, but i can see a point here that on games where he is bad, he can be bad! But i still think that he's had one full season with us now, and at times he's been shakey, but for the majority he has been very good! I think we need him to establish a proper partnership with someone, and last season it seemed as if him and Pearce were getting there unti linjuries and suspensions. I think though with that kind of set up having slow full backs like griffin and harte along with a reasonably slow centre back pairing, we would get regularly exploited.

I think at centre back our strongest options will be mills and pearce, as long as we can hopefully get some Bertand-esque fullbacks in!

[Super Kevin Bremner!]

Discipline and consistency are hardly the most essential attributes needed in this league! You've just gotta have one good run of ten games in this league to stand a chance of a top six finish. Top two and it's probably two thirds of your games you gotta do it in. If we get 30 performances out of 46 games from Mills or any player for that matter we'll be in witha massive shout.

Mills sums up everything you need in the Championship; grit, determination and physical presence. Quality higher up the pitch is a bit more important, but I think Mills fits the mold of a perfect centre back at this level.

[Ian Royal]

I don't want a higher standard of player. I want a more reliable player. I'll take a solid 7/10 every gamer, over a sometimes 9/10 sometimes 5/10 player any day of the week.

I don't think Mills isn't a very talented player. He clearly is, and he's been fantastic in quite a few games - notably big occasions usually. He also fouls up on a regular basis. Forgive me if I think the most important attributes in a centreback are calmness, reliability and intelligence.

When we swapped Bikey for Mills I was hoping for someone more reliable, he is, but barely. I'd rather have mental case Bikey back over Mills if we have to have someone who's going to make a fair few big mistakes.

Oh, and no problems with people disagreeing with this... it's all opinion and when it's such a close thing between utter brilliance and not quite good enough it's always going to polarise opinion. Just don't oxf*rd tell me I think he's not good enough because he gave the finger to someone else. (Not aimed at you SKB.)

If Mills was the finished article, he'd be worth £6m +, he isn't, he's a 24 year old who is still learning. But you can coach discipline and consistenncy into a player and much of it comes with age and experience, you can't coach natural ability or will to win or passion into someone who hasn't got it and Mills has it in abundance. I can accept the club having to sell Long but if they can't keep hold of the likes of Mills and Karacen, that's a different matter.

I don't disagree with the first bit. I just have my doubts about whether he can be coached into discipline to reach that level, and if so, how long it'll take.

As for keeping any of our players, it's simply not going to happen no matter who they are, if a big bid from a Premier League club were to come in. And I think Mills would be one of the last players at the club to consider turning down a big money move to improve his game and show loyalty here.

I don't have a problem if Mills is still playing next season, although if he is I reserve the right to bitch when he plays badly - just as I'll praise him if I think he has a great game. I just think if we can get a big payday from him we may as well. I think he's very far from irreplaceable.


Fair enough SKB - I just much prefer the more honest and reliable players like Ingimarsson, shame age started to get to him.

[royalsroyalsroyals92]

I don't want a higher standard of player. I want a more reliable player. I'll take a solid 7/10 every gamer, over a sometimes 9/10 sometimes 5/10 player any day of the week.

I don't think Mills isn't a very talented player. He clearly is, and he's been fantastic in quite a few games - notably big occasions usually. He also fouls up on a regular basis. Forgive me if I think the most important attributes in a centreback are calmness, reliability and intelligence.

When we swapped Bikey for Mills I was hoping for someone more reliable, he is, but barely. I'd rather have mental case Bikey back over Mills if we have to have someone who's going to make a fair few big mistakes.

Oh, and no problems with people disagreeing with this... it's all opinion and when it's such a close thing between utter brilliance and not quite good enough it's always going to polarise opinion. Just don't oxf*rd tell me I think he's not good enough because he gave the finger to someone else. (Not aimed at you SKB.)

Why do you rekon he would be so eager to go?
he's been made captain and is working under a manager who played him and gave him a chance when the previous manager hardly even played him!
If Mills was the finished article, he'd be worth £6m +, he isn't, he's a 24 year old who is still learning. But you can coach discipline and consistenncy into a player and much of it comes with age and experience, you can't coach natural ability or will to win or passion into someone who hasn't got it and Mills has it in abundance. I can accept the club having to sell Long but if they can't keep hold of the likes of Mills and Karacen, that's a different matter.

I don't disagree with the first bit. I just have my doubts about whether he can be coached into discipline to reach that level, and if so, how long it'll take.

As for keeping any of our players, it's simply not going to happen no matter who they are, if a big bid from a Premier League club were to come in. And I think Mills would be one of the last players at the club to consider turning down a big money move to improve his game and show loyalty here.

I don't have a problem if Mills is still playing next season, although if he is I reserve the right to bitch when he plays badly - just as I'll praise him if I think he has a great game. I just think if we can get a big payday from him we may as well. I think he's very far from irreplaceable.


Fair enough SKB - I just much prefer the more honest and reliable players like Ingimarsson, shame age started to get to him.

[royalsroyalsroyals92]

None of my previous post worked.
just asking ian royal, why do think he would be so eager to leave?
Working for a manager who gave him a chance
Club captain,
in a team with potential!

[Ian Royal]

None of my previous post worked.
just asking ian royal, why do think he would be so eager to leave?
Working for a manager who gave him a chance
Club captain,
in a team with potential!

Because he's obviously ambitious and thinks he's very good. It would be extremely rare for a modern footballer to turn down a big move. Rodgers bought him from Donny, not McDermott. Donny got him on the radar as a good player, not Reading.

[loyalroyaldaz]

Cos he fits the mould of a wanna big time Charlie. Fit Wag on his arm, you can see him now falling out of China White`s on a Sunday Morning, threatening to punch some Paps face in for daring to take a photo of his missus snatch as she clambers into a taxi !
Dont mind him as a player, bit inconsistent still, but he is not a captain yet imo.
Mate of mine from Wolves told me a couple of weeks ago he was going there for £4m, if thats the case then so be it, more gutted to lose Longy. use the money to go and get Betrand. Him and the newly resurrgent Cummings would be such a plus for us.