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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by brighton_royal » 08 Aug 2011 12:24

Barry the bird boggler
Ian Royal Hopefully we can use some of it to sign a decent pacey left back and a new striker / goalscoring attacking midfielder.


:lol:


Indeed.

LOL at any money being used to buy any players of any stature.

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by roadrunner » 08 Aug 2011 12:27

brighton_royal
Barry the bird boggler
Ian Royal Hopefully we can use some of it to sign a decent pacey left back and a new striker / goalscoring attacking midfielder.


:lol:


Indeed.

LOL at any money being used to buy any players of any stature.


'greed. Pretty frightening really. :cry:

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 08 Aug 2011 12:27

Ian Royal
Royal Lady Our attacking options are: Church, Hunt, Manset and that bloke we signed last season who I've never seen - was it Brett Williams? I'd hardly say our attacking options are fine, without Long.


Hunt has an excellent scoring record when fit. I like the look of Manset and he's started the season well. Church had a duff time last year but has shown in the previous that he does have quality. We then also have HRK who also has a good goalscoring record.

I don't think it's panic stations by any stretch of the imagination.


Not panic stations no. But hardly inspiring either. There's huge question marks over:
1) Hunt's fitness. If the past is any kind of guide, it's highly unlikely he'll manage to start the majority of games.
2) Manset's ability to last 90 minutes - although I think he'll be okay eventually. And yes, I know there is the substitute option, but I'd hardly call Church or HRK an "impact" replacement
3) Church's ability - to me, he's just not a natural finisher. He works hard, certainly, but it's goals that count if you are a centre forward. I don't think he has the pace to trouble a decent defence either.
4) Williams - always a long shot and none of us knows how this will work out. Could be another Long or could be another Mooney.

I think this leaves us a little weak, tbh.

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by John Peel » 08 Aug 2011 12:29

Yes the striking options are 'fine' but surely we want more than that? Don't see why we can't spend £1-1.5m of that £6m on a decent Championship or League One team striker. Or a loanee from the Prem at the very least.

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Boyband » 08 Aug 2011 12:31

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Royal Lady Our attacking options are: Church, Hunt, Manset and that bloke we signed last season who I've never seen - was it Brett Williams? I'd hardly say our attacking options are fine, without Long.


Hunt has an excellent scoring record when fit. I like the look of Manset and he's started the season well. Church had a duff time last year but has shown in the previous that he does have quality. We then also have HRK who also has a good goalscoring record.

I don't think it's panic stations by any stretch of the imagination.


Not panic stations no. But hardly inspiring either. There's huge question marks over:
1) Hunt's fitness. If the past is any kind of guide, it's highly unlikely he'll manage to start the majority of games.
2) Manset's ability to last 90 minutes - although I think he'll be okay eventually. And yes, I know there is the substitute option, but I'd hardly call Church or HRK an "impact" replacement
3) Church's ability - to me, he's just not a natural finisher. He works hard, certainly, but it's goals that count if you are a centre forward. I don't think he has the pace to trouble a decent defence either.
4) Williams - always a long shot and none of us knows how this will work out. Could be another Long or could be another Mooney.

I think this leaves us a little weak, tbh.


Agreed, how anyone can be satisfied with our attacking option post-Shane Long is beyond me. To lose someone who single-handedly pulled us through a number of games last season is a catastrophe should we not replace him.


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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Svlad Cjelli » 08 Aug 2011 12:34

But surely it could be argued that our attacking without Shane is at least as good as we had a month into last season? Not many nobbers had confidence in Long, and there were far fewer other options available than we have now.

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by brendywendy » 08 Aug 2011 12:36

John Peel Yes the striking options are 'fine' but surely we want more than that? Don't see why we can't spend £1-1.5m of that £6m on a decent Championship or League One team striker. Or a loanee from the Prem at the very least.


we will if required get loans in. but to say its required NOW when half of our strikers havent kicked a ball yet is pushing it.imo.
well play them till jan, or at least say we are, and hope they come good.
if that doesnt work we'll get a loan in.
you may not like it, but the club has no intention of paying players it has no intetion of playing.

but like mr svladers said- up till january last season our options were even worse according to most of you.

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Hoop Blah » 08 Aug 2011 12:47

Svlad Cjelli But surely it could be argued that our attacking without Shane is at least as good as we had a month into last season? Not many nobbers had confidence in Long, and there were far fewer other options available than we have now.


I didn't have a lot of faith in Long (still don't to a degree) but he was still our best option for the whole of last year. As much as I think he should've been taken out of the side at times in September/October (and beyond) he was better than Hunt and Church.

As you say we have added some more options since then but I'm by no means confident that Manset and Williams constitute an improvement. Robson-Kanu is looking like being involved as well but as good a job as he may have done that's still a gamble (and one we didn't try last year so you have to assume is a bit of a long shot).

Is Hunt/Manset/Robson-Kanu/Church/Williams better than Long/Hunt/Church/Bignall? As much as I'm not a big Long fan I'd have to say it isn't, especially if we continue to play the same way as we have done since McDermott took over.

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Royal Lady » 08 Aug 2011 13:04

Hmm - West Brom fan I know seems to think this is a done deal. :cry:


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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by chilipepper91 » 08 Aug 2011 13:15

Very reliable transfer news guy on Twitter seems to think West Brom is happening for £6m, despite Leicester offering more

https://twitter.com/#!/fourth_official

Looks like West Brom are in the driving seat for Shane Long, they will sign a striker this week #WBA

Don't think West Brom's incoming bid for Long is of the same value of Leicester's one which is still on the table, but he does want Prem

Look's like Reading have accepted a £6m bid from West Brom for Shane Long, Leicester's bid was more! #WBA

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by ZacNaloen » 08 Aug 2011 13:20

I told that fourth official guy that we don't want to sell to the competition and the bid would have to be ridiculous. He didn't take me seriously then :lol:

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by TBM » 08 Aug 2011 13:26

fcuk not selling to the "competition" - take the most someone offers..........we're not gonna be in contention this year so why does it matter where he goes!?

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by rhroyal » 08 Aug 2011 13:27

TBM fcuk not selling to the "competition" - take the most someone offers..........we're not gonna be in contention this year so why does it matter where he goes!?

We're actually showing what I would call "ambition" by refusing to sell our prized asset to competitors. So this time the club are criticized for too much ambition....


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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Handsome Man » 08 Aug 2011 13:30

Press Association say WBA are about to break their transfer record to buy him

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Royal Rother » 08 Aug 2011 13:34

Their current highest is £4.7m, so I should hope so!

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by anR » 08 Aug 2011 13:47

If Leicester offered more and they're denied, why sell him at all? :evil:

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Svlad Cjelli » 08 Aug 2011 13:48

anR If Leicester offered more and they're denied, why sell him at all? :evil:


Because he wants to go!

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Handsome Man » 08 Aug 2011 13:51

anR If Leicester offered more and they're denied, why sell him at all? :evil:


He's got to go. He has outgrown us.

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 08 Aug 2011 13:53

rhroyal
TBM fcuk not selling to the "competition" - take the most someone offers..........we're not gonna be in contention this year so why does it matter where he goes!?

We're actually showing what I would call "ambition" by refusing to sell our prized asset to competitors. So this time the club are criticized for too much ambition....


Not my definition of ambition!

I think the idea of who we sell to is academic - it's our own position we should be focussed on. Ambition would be to get top dollar (to anyone) and replace with someone capable of a first 11 slot straight away. That may or may not happen, but current form suggests not - let's wait and see though.

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by brendywendy » 08 Aug 2011 14:06

good luck shanus o'shlong.
i loved you for a while, but like all the others you stab me in th eback as you casually walk out of my life. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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