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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 09 Aug 2011 14:31

Ian Royal It's not sufficient if Cummings is playing first choice right back (quite likely by the end of the season) and Williams is considered not good enough.

We have better options at striker, than we do at left back.


We have more options at striker, certainly. But not necessarily better.

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Alan Partridge » 09 Aug 2011 14:40

Ian Royal It's not sufficient if Cummings is playing first choice right back (quite likely by the end of the season) and Williams is considered not good enough.

We have better options at striker, than we do at left back.



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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by roadrunner » 09 Aug 2011 14:45

Alan Partridge
Ian Royal It's not sufficient if Cummings is playing first choice right back (quite likely by the end of the season) and Williams is considered not good enough.

We have better options at striker, than we do at left back.



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Ian Royal + we have Taylor, Obita and HRK

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Ian Royal » 09 Aug 2011 14:49

Alan Partridge
Ian Royal It's not sufficient if Cummings is playing first choice right back (quite likely by the end of the season) and Williams is considered not good enough.

We have better options at striker, than we do at left back.



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Hunt / Manset are better options than Harte. Church / HRK are better options than Williams. We could also switch to one upfront and play someone in the hole like Taylor, Obita, HRK or even Howard.

Griffin, Harte and Pearce are not good enough options to play together in defence because they're all so slow. Replace Griffin with Cummings and you've still got one entire side of the defence which will get beaten for pace time and time again.

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 09 Aug 2011 15:27

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Ian Royal It's not sufficient if Cummings is playing first choice right back (quite likely by the end of the season) and Williams is considered not good enough.

We have better options at striker, than we do at left back.



:shock: If Long goes, you can't be serious?


Hunt / Manset are better options than Harte. Church / HRK are better options than Williams. We could also switch to one upfront and play someone in the hole like Taylor, Obita, HRK or even Howard.

Griffin, Harte and Pearce are not good enough options to play together in defence because they're all so slow. Replace Griffin with Cummings and you've still got one entire side of the defence which will get beaten for pace time and time again.


Hunt / Manset is not an option - it's the first and only choice in a 442. After those two, the options left are no better than we have at left back (jury out on Church for me).

I do agree that we might need to look at left back though. I am a bit concerned that if the strikers left have a hard time scoring - coupled with our defence being exposed for pace time and time again - we might be in a for a tough season.


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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Svlad Cjelli » 09 Aug 2011 15:28

What's wrong with HRK & Manset as a partnership? The classic "little & large" striking partnership.

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Ian Royal » 09 Aug 2011 15:36

Church and HRK both have proved themselves far more effectively at Reading than Marcus Williams. Making them a better back-up option. If Harte was second choice, he'd be a much better option comparatively than them, he isn't though. He's first choice and is a big weak spot going forward and defensively. He wasn't even doing the non-pace related defending right or putting in good set-pieces saturday. He had no redeeming feature.
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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Royal Rother » 09 Aug 2011 15:37

Svlad Cjelli What's wrong with HRK & Manset as a partnership? The classic "little & large" striking partnership.


You really mean the classic "big lad & brick shithouse" striking partnership, yes?!

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Wycombe Royal » 09 Aug 2011 16:09

Svlad Cjelli What's wrong with HRK & Manset as a partnership? The classic "little & large" striking partnership.

6ft, 13st HRK & 6ft 1", 13 & a half stone Manset.

Some classic little and large partnership that is........


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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Svlad Cjelli » 09 Aug 2011 16:12

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Svlad Cjelli What's wrong with HRK & Manset as a partnership? The classic "little & large" striking partnership.

6ft, 13st HRK & 6ft 1", 13 & a half stone Manset.

Some classic little and large partnership that is........


Point, but HRK looks much more slight and seems much more mobile.

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by FiNeRaIn » 09 Aug 2011 16:14

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Svlad Cjelli What's wrong with HRK & Manset as a partnership? The classic "little & large" striking partnership.


You really mean the classic "big lad & brick shithouse" striking partnership, yes?!


lmao....yeah who on earth is the little one? :lol: :lol:

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by FiNeRaIn » 09 Aug 2011 16:15

Svlad Cjelli Point, but HRK looks much more slight and seems much more mobile.


But he's not little, or even close.

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 09 Aug 2011 16:20

Ian Royal Church and HRK both have proved themselves far more effectively at Reading than Marcus Williams. Making them a better back-up option. If Harte was second choice, he'd be a much better option comparatively than them, he isn't though. He's first choice and is a big weak spot going forward and defensively. He wasn't even doing the non-pace related defending right or putting in good set-pieces saturday. He had no redeeming feature.


All much of a muchness when it comes to being a good option though. Can't see Church scoring hatfuls just as much as I can't see Williams stopping them conceding at the other end. HRK as a striker may work, but until BM puts this into practice we don't know.

Agree about Harte - I think BM will persevere though for the first batch of games. If we still have 1 or 2 points after Barnsley he may have a rethink. I'm just as concerned with Griffin though - same problems with pace as Harte and less to offer on set pieces. But both were cheap buys at the wrong end of their careers because that's all we can afford - I think we had value last year but this season may be one too many for both of them at this level.


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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by urz13 » 09 Aug 2011 18:16

LONG OFFICIALLY GONE

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Long goodbye...

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3 year deal to West Brom.

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by URZZ » 09 Aug 2011 18:29

Does anyone know how much for? I see no actual fee.

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Re: RUMOUR - Long to Birmingham/West Ham/WBA

by urz13 » 09 Aug 2011 18:30

URZZ Does anyone know how much for? I see no actual fee.


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Re: Long goodbye...

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Few minutes late actually

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