Past Reading Teams

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Past Reading Teams

by Sarah Star » 15 Sep 2011 13:31

Does anyone know where I can get lists of past Reading teams with their squad numbers?

That's all I want to know.

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Re: Past Reading Teams

by Svlad Cjelli » 15 Sep 2011 13:35

Try soccerbase. And don't forget that squad numbers are a (relatively) new innovation.

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Re: Past Reading Teams

by Sarah Star » 15 Sep 2011 13:47

Svlad Cjelli Try soccerbase. And don't forget that squad numbers are a (relatively) new innovation.

I can find all sorts of stats for different players and who was in the team going back years, but not what number they played with... unless I'm looking in the wrong place.

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Re: Past Reading Teams

by Svlad Cjelli » 15 Sep 2011 14:24

In which case try the programmes from each year if you can get hold of them.

Also, "The Definitive Reading FC" and (I think) "Heaven on Earth" have all the player's numbers in every match up to 1998.

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Re: Past Reading Teams

by 66DD » 15 Sep 2011 16:47

The last home programme of each season in which you are interested could be a reasonable source of teams and squad numbers.


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Re: Past Reading Teams

by bobbybottler » 15 Sep 2011 18:56

Sarah Star Does anyone know where I can get lists of past Reading teams with their squad numbers?

That's all I want to know.

Any one in particular?

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Re: Past Reading Teams

by Ark Royal » 15 Sep 2011 19:16

Squad numbers were introduced in 1993. The Premier League changed in 94, but the Football League did not switch until 99.

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Re: Past Reading Teams

by Sarah Star » 15 Sep 2011 22:50

There's no particular player or team I'm looking for, just wanted to know who had held which shirt going back as far as I can (I'll bear in mind that it's a relatively recent thing).

Will probably have to ask STAR for the programmes although I've heard they're trying to get rid of a few if anyone else is interested.

Thanks.

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Re: Past Reading Teams

by strap » 16 Sep 2011 00:50



Luke Chadwick, Darren Campbell and Peter Castle made apps for us in 2002-3 but I don't have their numbers.

Ditto Michael Branch in 2001-02.

Hope you've got good specs.


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Re: Past Reading Teams

by Lenarduzzi's Hair » 16 Sep 2011 09:30

strap Luke Chadwick, Darren Campbell and Peter Castle made apps for us in 2002-3 but I don't have their numbers.

Ditto Michael Branch in 2001-02.

Hope you've got good specs.


To fill in the gaps:
Luke Chadwick: 30
Darren Campbell: 34
Peter Castle: 37
Michael Branch: 31

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Re: Past Reading Teams

by strap » 16 Sep 2011 11:15

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strap Luke Chadwick, Darren Campbell and Peter Castle made apps for us in 2002-3 but I don't have their numbers.

Ditto Michael Branch in 2001-02.

Hope you've got good specs.


To fill in the gaps:
Luke Chadwick: 30
Darren Campbell: 34
Peter Castle: 37
Michael Branch: 31


Great, many thanks.

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Re: Past Reading Teams

by Sarah Star » 16 Sep 2011 23:45

Thanks Strap. That's exactly what I wanted. Seems like you got to fill in a few blanks curtesy of Lenarduzzi too, so thanks to him too.

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Re: Past Reading Teams

by jazz » 17 Sep 2011 19:42

Hey SS. Good luck with your research, but we long term fans shouldn't forget RFC stalwarts who wore the shirt long before numbers were introduced. In those days we knew and recognised players, did not have to identify them by numerals on their backs. Nonetheless, I'm sure Ronnie Blackman would have loved a 9, Gilbert Glidden a 2.


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Re: Past Reading Teams

by Sarah Star » 17 Sep 2011 19:54

I suppose there's always the field position numbers that I could apply to earlier teams:

1. Goalkeeper
2. Right full back (right side center back)
3. Left full back (left side center back)
4. Right half back (right side defensive midfield)
5. Centre half back (centre defensive midfield)
6. Left half back (left side defensive midfield)
7. Outside right (right winger)
8. Inside right (attacking midfield)
9. Centre forward
10. Inside left (attacking midfield)
11. Outside left (left winger)

(admittedly I got this from Wikipedia)

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Re: Past Reading Teams

by jazz » 17 Sep 2011 20:00

Sarah Star I suppose there's always the field position numbers that I could apply to earlier teams:

1. Goalkeeper
2. Right full back (right side center back)
3. Left full back (left side center back)
4. Right half back (right side defensive midfield)
5. Centre half back (centre defensive midfield)
6. Left half back (left side defensive midfield)
7. Outside right (right winger)
8. Inside right (attacking midfield)
9. Centre forward
10. Inside left (attacking midfield)
11. Outside left (left winger)

(admittedly I got this from Wikipedia)


Brilliant. That's exactly as it was in the 2-3-5 days.

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Re: Past Reading Teams

by Sarah Star » 17 Sep 2011 20:06

It does go on to adapt that:

Wikipedia Early evolutions of formations involved moving specific positions, e.g. moving the centre half back to become a defender rather than a half back. Their numbers went with them, hence central defenders wearing number 5, and remnants of the system remain to this day. For example, in friendly and championship qualifying matches England, when playing the 4-4-2 formation, general number their players (using the standard right to left system of listing football teams) four defenders - 2, 5, 6, 3; four midfielders - 7, 4, 8, 11; two forwards - 9, 10. This system of numbering can also be adapted to a midfield diamond with the holding midfielder wearing 4 and the attacking central midfielder wearing 8. Similarly the Swedish national team number their players: four defenders - 2, 3, 4, 5; four midfielders - 7, 6, 8, 9; two forwards - 10, 11.

Might get a bit complicated, but it's a start.

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Re: Past Reading Teams

by Svlad Cjelli » 18 Sep 2011 21:39

You need this :


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Re: Past Reading Teams

by SpaceCruiser » 18 Sep 2011 21:50

Strap, how's your database going, are you using VB and access? I've been wondering whether to waste my time writing some java stuff to do this kind of stuff.

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Re: Past Reading Teams

by strap » 20 Sep 2011 10:00

SpaceCruiser Strap, how's your database going, are you using VB and access? I've been wondering whether to waste my time writing some java stuff to do this kind of stuff.


Hi Spacey, yes, all in MSAccess with plenty of VBA. All self taught though, so I would imagine some routines are pretty inefficient. Having said that, the raw data stored in the Access tables is pretty tight, with very little duplication, so I guess it would be perfefctly feasible to write a complete new "front-end" display section just using the raw data tables. Sadly well beyond my abililty.

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Re: Past Reading Teams

by Terminal Boardom » 20 Sep 2011 10:51

SpaceCruiser Strap, how's your database going, are you using VB and access? I've been wondering whether to waste my time writing some java stuff to do this kind of stuff.


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