Unhappy Chairman

[melonhead]

I don't buy into this luck nonsense, its in your power to overcome that. Don't get a penalty? create something another way. There is a consistent pattern this season...we rarely win, thats not luck.

tbf i said already exactly that about putting our chances away and taking refs, and luck out of the equation


and today was probably one our best all round footballing performances, we did look to play in different ways, playing out from the back,as well as long balls in teh channels, moving it out wide and getting crosses in, as well as some lovely play through the middle.

[Ian Royal]

I don't buy into this luck nonsense, its in your power to overcome that. Don't get a penalty? create something another way. There is a consistent pattern this season...we rarely win, thats not luck.

But it shows the margins between us winning games and losing them is small. It is therefore conceivable something could click for whatever reason and we could surge upwards by going on a good run.

[cmonurz]

I'd argue it's bigger than the stats suggest. Rarely this season have we failed to win because the opposition were brilliant. Where our fortunes could get better, so could our opponents. We need more quality, not luck.

[melonhead]

id say that not being outplayed by anyone shows they are narrower, not wider myself

[Northern Git]

Were I John Madejski, I'd seriously question how, with the business aptitude to sell Auto Trader at a massive profit,

Umm he was offered a silly amount for Autotrader, no one has offered a silly amount for RFC. His business aptitude may be why we sold a few players at a high price in the last few years. Selling high is easy if the offer is there, getting the item to sell is the harder part, and a lot of that is down to luck, as otherwise every club could do it.

His sale of Auto Trader was just an example, my point as you surely know is that Madejski is a successful businessman, yet seemingly failed or fails to grasp that this club for sell-able in the Premier League and is significantly less so now. From a business perspective, the potential ROI was far greater when we were a top flight club.

So if he's got his business hat on, I'm sure he'll be very unhappy. As a football fan and owner of the club that has kept it's nose above water and enjoyed some decent seasons since relegation, maybe he'll be happier, but I approached your question from the perspective of Madejski's stated aim to sell the club.

But, apart from his Auto Trader success, is he?

Printing business? spunked £87,000,000 at last count and still massive operating losses.
Station Hill? Lost a small fortune on that one
Hotel? In the red

Etc, Etc, Etc .......

Would agree about his potential ROI on RFC being far higher if we are in the top flight.

Only place we made an operating profit in recent years without selling players (before accountancy charges of course )

[Whore Jackie]

£87million?

[RoyalBlue]

Umm he was offered a silly amount for Autotrader, no one has offered a silly amount for RFC. His business aptitude may be why we sold a few players at a high price in the last few years. Selling high is easy if the offer is there, getting the item to sell is the harder part, and a lot of that is down to luck, as otherwise every club could do it.

His sale of Auto Trader was just an example, my point as you surely know is that Madejski is a successful businessman, yet seemingly failed or fails to grasp that this club for sell-able in the Premier League and is significantly less so now. From a business perspective, the potential ROI was far greater when we were a top flight club.

So if he's got his business hat on, I'm sure he'll be very unhappy. As a football fan and owner of the club that has kept it's nose above water and enjoyed some decent seasons since relegation, maybe he'll be happier, but I approached your question from the perspective of Madejski's stated aim to sell the club.

But, apart from his Auto Trader success, is he?

Printing business? spunked £87,000,000 at last count and still massive operating losses.
Station Hill? Lost a small fortune on that one
Hotel? In the red

Etc, Etc, Etc .......

Oh dear, you've just suggested that the emperor is standing there starkers!

I very much doubt that he is one of the greatest businessmen in this country and, even if he was, seems to have lost his touch in recent years.

[melonhead]

surely thats the whole reason hes not spunking his cash on us any more

[Jackson Corner]

Were I John Madejski, I'd seriously question how, with the business aptitude to sell Auto Trader at a massive profit, I couldn't see the fallacy in trying to sell a football club without investing serious money in the playing squad. Anyone with half a brain must understand that selling a Premier League club is much easier than trying to shift a Championship one, at least for the money Madejski wanted or wants for it, it is.

So yes, if I was JM I'd be unhappy. An extra £5m or so might have made the difference between shifting the club for a nice sum, or not selling it at all.

Be even harder to sell in div one.

[Northern Git]

surely thats the whole reason hes not spunking his cash on us any more

This exactly the point! I dont think, with all his other pressing financial demands, he is in any position to support the club financially in any meaningful way.

If he would 'splash the cash' if he did have the cash is a different question

As for selling the club, his debt for equity swap has probably put a unrealistic value on the club given its current performance. This is just my guess BTW as I dont know what figure he is asking for the club or how he has structured current or past 'loans' he made prior to 2006

[leicsRoyal]

If I were SJM, I would be delighted at McCarthy's performance for Leeds yesterday as he is probably our biggest saleable playing asset.
Great move to loan him out at this time of year, just in time for the January transfer window!

[Sarah Star]

If I were SJM, I would be delighted at McCarthy's performance for Leeds yesterday as he is probably our biggest saleable playing asset.
Great move to loan him out at this time of year, just in time for the January transfer window!

Might need to sell someone before bringing anyone else in and we do have several excellent goalkeepers at Reading so one of them has to be expendable... not that I want it to be McCarthy!

[Royal Lady]

If I were JM I'd be pretty happy too - club not struggling as such, still getting pretty high attendances - have won a few games - fans not exactly mutinous - that's all he wants. I do note that he never comes out and milks it anymore before games -(unless I've missed him) - doubt he walks past our fans at away games like he used to either - he's not daft - he knows he should have spent some more money on players when we sold big - but he can't afford to. Interesting to note that the hotel is now in the red - that will be part of the reason - I still maintain he'll have transferred some of the money from the club to the hotel to cover debts. But that's up to him. He was happy to take the plaudits, he knows he's also got to take the criticism. It's still early days in the football calendar - he'll be praying for a big team at home in the FA Cup I expect - but come March/April if we're not doing very well - he won't be relishing coming to games. A lot of the RTGs are still looking at last season and thinking we can turn it around and end up in the play-offs I expect. Poor loves.

[West Stand Man]

Why this negativity?
According to the BBC we had 11 shots on goal, they had 6. If anything that statistic says we were robbed.
We had 56% possession.

Simple answerr to your question - because there are too many short sighted half wits posting on here.

Facts:
-those you list above.
- the atmosphere was hot, due to it being an exciting end to end game.
- we gave away 2 goals. On to a freak shot and one to a well delivered free kick that we didn't defend as well as we should/could have done.
- the team performance was pretty good all round.
- the result was, again, disapppointing.
- I'll be back on 29 Nov for the next game, eternally hopeful that it will be a winning peformance.

[KEBEISTHEGREATEST]

Sir John stills thinks we will stay up with the squad we currently have. Therefore no money will be spent in January.


Sir John brought http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/be0867da-017c ... abdc0.html

Clearview Traffic Debt: Around 17.5mllion

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Sir John stills thinks we will stay up with the squad we currently have. Therefore no money will be spent in January.


Sir John brought http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/be0867da-017c ... abdc0.html

Clearview Traffic Debt: Around 17.5mllion

No he has paid off a sum of the debt, and Lloyds have taken a loss on the rest, not £17.5m at all.

[West Stand Man]

No he has paid off a sum of the debt, and Lloyds have taken a loss on the rest, not £17.5m at all.

Rule 1 if you want to make a mark on HNA - don't cloud the argument with facts. It just confuses the negativity.

[cmonurz]

Sorry WSM, this thread was to discuss whether as chairman, JM might be happy or unhappy at the moment. Implying that those who don't want to list reasons why yesterday's game was good are not contributing to the discussion marks you out as a little facile.

[West Stand Man]

Sorry WSM, this thread was to discuss whether as chairman, JM might be happy or unhappy at the moment. Implying that those who don't want to list reasons why yesterday's game was good are not contributing to the discussion marks you out as a little facile.

Try reading the post I was responding to. I did.

[melonhead]

Were I John Madejski, I'd seriously question how, with the business aptitude to sell Auto Trader at a massive profit, I couldn't see the fallacy in trying to sell a football club without investing serious money in the playing squad. Anyone with half a brain must understand that selling a Premier League club is much easier than trying to shift a Championship one, at least for the money Madejski wanted or wants for it, it is.

So yes, if I was JM I'd be unhappy. An extra £5m or so might have made the difference between shifting the club for a nice sum, or not selling it at all.

Be even harder to sell in div one.

which is why he sacked brendan when he did, and will spend on a new player or two if we are looking in any danger at all