melonheadHardly! Just reflecting the fact that someone from abroad is less likely to understand the culture and "unwritten rules" that exist within English football than someone brought up within it.
if a rule is worth sheeit, they tend to write it down.
imo
Royal RothermelonheadRoyal Rother But this is all a terribly difficult concept for some, even when explained in very simple terms.
The blatant refusal of some posters to engage brain is almost as embarrassing as Collison's actions yesterday.
we were there, we dont need that bit explaining- clearly JHK mocked west ham slightly with his sock pulling gesture.
what people are questioning is how that in some way explains his mental reaction, or our "understanding" or lack of it, of it
I know that. Fact remains it has been explained by a number of people (including current and ex-players) and you just won't accept it. If they CONDONED it I'd be outraged as well, but they don't.
Hey ho, moving on now.
Svlad CjelliZacNaloen I don't think i'll find it particularly difficult to sneer back either.
The difference between me and Collison?
Sneer is all I'd do.
Well done you. Never ever lost your temper in your whole life? Just sat there in the corner polishing your halo throughout your time?
BandiniSvlad Cjelli
He lost his temper, simple as that. He's a young kid, he was playing crap, his team were getting stuffed -
I have to agree that these explanations - in combination with sockg8 - explain Collison's actions.
Ian RoyalIan RoyalThe Real Sandhurst Royal The media are all dicks when it come to incidents like this they put the judges gown and wig on and make stupid comments that are biased one way this time Kebe has taken the brunt of it.
Collison's challenge on Kebe was premeditated and could well have caused significant injury.
Same Allardyce's post match interview sums it up for me, very fair comments all round, maybe the media should take a leaf out of Big Sams book.
Agree with all that except the significant injury bit.
More of a frustrated stud rake IMO. I'm not arguing he couldn't have got injured. Just don't think it was ever likely to be a serious injury.
@RobbieSavage8: That wasn't showboating deserved red silly boy jack !" Professionals should rise above that anyway #sockgate
The Meaning of "Could Well"
The doctor says "He might well die tomorrow." That is different from saying "He might die tomorrow". The second sentence is, logically speaking, true about anyone. There might be Gricean principles that raise the probability -- why is the doctor saying that? But in "You should say you love him because he might die tomorrow", the phrase could mean just that he, like anyone else, might die tomorrow.
I think the doctor is saying that there is some reason why he might die tomorrow, such as a serious injury. This reason raises the probability above the level of just the background statistical probability. I think there is a second aspect to the meaning, which is that the probability has become worth considering.
"Could/might very well" increases the liklihood of things further,though neither of them would necessarily mean it was very Likely
FiINerAIN wrote:Only in engLOLish football could this be such a huge issue worthy of national outrage on radio and tv.
In the rest of the world not a single shit would be given.
Move on.
melonhead :lol:
IN! for more pointless arguing
its very easy to misjudge a rake down someones shins, if hed caught it wrong, or accidentally straightened his leg, it could ahve been a leg breaker
like when hunty caught his foot in the turf and nearly killed czech
& i may well accept your definition of could well.The Meaning of "Could Well"
The doctor says "He might well die tomorrow." That is different from saying "He might die tomorrow". The second sentence is, logically speaking, true about anyone. There might be Gricean principles that raise the probability -- why is the doctor saying that? But in "You should say you love him because he might die tomorrow", the phrase could mean just that he, like anyone else, might die tomorrow.
I think the doctor is saying that there is some reason why he might die tomorrow, such as a serious injury. This reason raises the probability above the level of just the background statistical probability. I think there is a second aspect to the meaning, which is that the probability has become worth considering.
"Could/might very well" increases the liklihood of things further,though neither of them would necessarily mean it was very Likely
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Think you've gotta catch someone pretty hard to break their leg when you hit that high up. Side of the knee is another matter. Worst case scenario he oxf*rd up his knee cap (which in itself can be nasty).
Stranded Just to add something else to this - but I was sat right behind the incident in the East. Prior to the sock pulling up, Kebe had actually gestured to Cummings not to pass him the ball - he did, then the incident happened which caused the furore. It's possible that this wasn't actually a pi$$ take but that Kebe did actually just want to sort his sock out.
Svlad CjelliZacNaloen "Oh it's totally unjustifiable BUUUUTTTTT totally understandable cue loads of complete and utter bollocks about fair play in the english game"
Yeh. Whatever Dirk. You're fooling no one.
Whatever you say .... but to me this just underlines why professonal footballers tend to hold supporters in such contempt and laugh at them at every conveivable opportunity.
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