by Hoop Blah »
13 Dec 2011 09:59
melonhead Hoop Blah I'm amazed at this tread!
It's not some stunning inside knowledge that Dirks trying to sound clever by revealing, it's part of the game that players know the kind of thing that's unprofessional and outside of 'the code' and so will earn you a kicking if you take the piss. What's poor form and what's not probably does vary from county to country and culture to culture (spitting and diving being examples that I think still have different levels of acceptability in different parts of the world).
I've no doubt Kebe was taking the piss either.
As for people saying it's no different from a few stepovers, a stepover is a different kettle of fish because it's something you do to create space or beat a man, it's not a blatent piss take.
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when you do 15 step overs it is.
and certainly no worse than the 10 passes between two players stodd three yards from each other that happened a few minutes later
The little interchange between Legeirtwood and Cummings was a similar piss take, agreed. I'm sure that was most likely a reaction to the Collison challenge and the West Ham players reaction to Kebe on the floor (not seen any comment on the two or three that went over to remonstrate with him).
As for the stepovers, someone like Ronaldo or Denilson (the stepover king) doing multiple stepovers isn't taking the piss, it's all part of their way of trying to unsettle and unbalance a defender in order to beat him. That doesn't matter if it's 1, 2 or 10 stepovers. If they did it in the middle of 20 yards of space then yeah, I'd agree, but I've never seen a player do a load of stepovers with nobody around him.
melonhead kebe clearly asked not to be given the ball a second earlier so i have no problem accepting thats what happened if thats what they say- i also have no problem acceopting it if it was a piss take, clearly the funniest most entertaining thing ive seen this season, if so.
had me on my feet, laughing my tits off and applauding before collison even went off his nut.
frankly i think kebe was as shocked as anyone to be given that much time and space, and then collison was enraged as much with his own team and himself for allowing it.
Happy for others to feel otherwise but I just don't buy it. His socks and pads were fine, there was no real need to fiddle with them unless he's taking the piss. Players play on without their boot if they need to, he was just playing around and taking the piss(IMO).