Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Tony Le Mesmer » 15 Dec 2011 11:38

Barry the bird boggler Odd that Bolton also look likely for the drop as well then! One wonders what would happen to them if they drop into the Championship and don't get an immediate return.


Quite easy to answer. A spell in the lower leagues most likely. Sheff Utd, Sheff Wed, Notts Forest, Charlton, Norwich, Leicester, Southampton, Bradford, Leeds etc...

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Cobi » 15 Dec 2011 11:49

Ideal Disturbing that Ipswich paid Chopra £250K so he could pay off his loan sharks:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-16185993


Why is it? That'll come out of his wages. He's no good to Ipswich with no knees.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 15 Dec 2011 13:15

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Ideal Disturbing that Ipswich paid Chopra £250K so he could pay off his loan sharks:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-16185993


Why is it? That'll come out of his wages. He's no good to Ipswich with no knees.

The disturbing thing to some degree is that a player being paid half a million a year would need to borrow money at all.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 15 Dec 2011 14:03

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Exactly. He's been earning well for years, clearly it indicates that he has no money left.
Furthermore, I find it disturbing that Ipswich signed him knowing he had a gambling addiction, knowing they'd have to cover his £250K gambling debts!
I just happen to think this is indicative of a sickness, a cancer destroying football.

If we as a club were to sign a gambling addict, I'd hope someone in the club stopped for a minute and contemplated the moral implications of this.
Don't forget, these are role models for thousands and thousands of youths.


To be honest, I don't think many youngsters are going to look at a player being threatened with criminals to pay off gambling debts and think gambling a cool thing to do as a result.

Even if they aren't in that boat, players who gamble heavily rarely do it in the public eye.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Vision » 15 Dec 2011 14:06

Ideal Exactly. He's been earning well for years, clearly it indicates that he has no money left.
Furthermore, I find it disturbing that Ipswich signed him knowing he had a gambling addiction, knowing they'd have to cover his £250K gambling debts!
I just happen to think this is indicative of a sickness, a cancer destroying football.

If we as a club were to sign a gambling addict, I'd hope someone in the club stopped for a minute and contemplated the moral implications of this.
Don't forget, these are role models for thousands and thousands of youths.


Grant Brebner?
Glenn Little?


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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Tredder » 15 Dec 2011 14:15

Little used to bet £500 on the cartoon races, that's extreme addiction.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 15 Dec 2011 15:47

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Rev Algenon Stickleback H To be honest, I don't think many youngsters are going to look at a player being threatened with criminals to pay off gambling debts and think gambling a cool thing to do as a result.


That was not my point.

Let me explain it to you:
Young people see footballers being criminals, gambling, drinking, killing people in traffic, drunk driving etc.
Young people then see those very same troubled inviduals being signed by clubs
Young people then equate 2+2, and come up with "it is ok to do whatever you want, break the law, behave like a complete asshole, because there will be no consequences to speak of".

Do you now understand what I was getting at?


""it is ok to do whatever you want, break the law, behave like a complete asshole, because there will be no consequences to speak of""

...if you are a footballer.

And as I said, youngsters (or anyone) don't hear about people gambling except when they are paying the price for their habit. i.e. gambling is something where people do see consequences.


The kind of kids who turn to a life of crime are by far more likely to be influenced by the lack of consequences for the drug dealers and other criminals they know and see on their streets than by footballers.

I mean, when the likes of Leroy Lita's antics come to light, they made him look a right prat, not a role model.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Ian Royal » 15 Dec 2011 19:38

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Rev Algenon Stickleback H To be honest, I don't think many youngsters are going to look at a player being threatened with criminals to pay off gambling debts and think gambling a cool thing to do as a result.


That was not my point.

Let me explain it to you:
Young people see footballers being criminals, gambling, drinking, killing people in traffic, drunk driving etc.
Young people then see those very same troubled inviduals being signed by clubs
Young people then equate 2+2, and come up with "it is ok to do whatever you want, break the law, behave like a complete asshole, because there will be no consequences to speak of".

Do you now understand what I was getting at?


Except this case clearly shows there are consequences. You must think young people are really stupid.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Franchise FC » 15 Dec 2011 19:41

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Rev Algenon Stickleback H To be honest, I don't think many youngsters are going to look at a player being threatened with criminals to pay off gambling debts and think gambling a cool thing to do as a result.


That was not my point.

Let me explain it to you:
Young people see footballers being criminals, gambling, drinking, killing people in traffic, drunk driving etc.
Young people then see those very same troubled inviduals being signed by clubs
Young people then equate 2+2, and come up with "it is ok to do whatever you want, break the law, behave like a complete asshole, because there will be no consequences to speak of".

Do you now understand what I was getting at?


Except this case clearly shows there are consequences. You must think young people are really stupid.


They're not generally stupid, but they are seriously impressionable.


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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Svlad Cjelli » 26 Dec 2011 12:12

Ebsfleet have a notice in today's programme saying they need to raise 50k in order to survive until the end of the season.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Svlad Cjelli » 28 Dec 2011 14:02

The end looks extremely nigh for Kettering Town :

...... the question of whether or how Kettering Town will able to survive above or beyond the end of this season while playing at Nene Park remains a depressingly valid one.

Chairman Imraan Ladak has claimed that the club’s transfer embargo – in place over non-payment of money to Crawley Town over two players that were loaned to the club during less fallow times – will be lifted next month, but it doesn’t seem as if too many of the club’s support believes a single word that comes out of his mouth any more. Ladak also claims that the club’s financial difficulties would be essentially resolved if “two sums of GBP48,000 and GBP158,000 that we believe are outstanding” were paid by sponsors of the club, but it seems again that his exhortations to keep the faith are falling upon deaf ears at the moment and, while there can be little question that just over GBP200,000 would be very handy to any club playing at their level, as times goes on and still this money fails to materialise, it starts to feel more and more as if it ever will – and even if it does, what is becoming apparent that the economics of the club’s move to Irthlingborough was based upon a fundamentally flawed plan. If there actually ever was a plan at all, of course.

On Monday morning, however, those turning up at the club’s old home at Rockingham Road in Kettering itself, where the social club that was being sub-let to the club’s Supporters Trust by Kettering Town Management Limited, were given something of a shock when they found that the gates to the ground had been locked by bailiffs acting for the property developer Ben Pickering, who is the owner of the ground and with whom Ladak had failed to agree an extension on the club’s lease beyond 2013. Of course, such situations seldom occur without somebody being made aware of it, and a representative of Pickering’s solicitors, Howes Percival, subsequently confirmed that they had served notice at Rockingham Road in November in order to remedy the breach of the tenancy contract.
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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by RG30 » 28 Dec 2011 15:58

Tredder Little used to bet £500 on the cartoon races, that's extreme addiction.


Not true.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by 1871 Royal » 03 Jan 2012 12:55

SSN reporting that Darlington, the conference club with the 20k seater stadium, go into administration.


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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Barry the bird boggler » 03 Jan 2012 13:27

1871 Royal SSN reporting that Darlington, the conference club with the 20k seater stadium, go into administration.


Isn't that about the 3rd time in 5/6 years?

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by 1871 Royal » 03 Jan 2012 13:40

Yep.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Tony Le Mesmer » 03 Jan 2012 14:03

the conference dont fck about when one of their teams goes into administration. Usually, its the end of the road.

Expect to see Darlington in the Northern League next season. In all honesty, it will do them good in the long run. Finally giving them a chance to escape the Reynolds legacy.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Tredder » 03 Jan 2012 14:38

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Tredder Little used to bet £500 on the cartoon races, that's extreme addiction.


Not true.


I watched him do it, on many occasions, he did £100 trebles, and then if that went down, he'd have a very large single.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Svlad Cjelli » 03 Jan 2012 17:36

Tony Le Mesmer the conference dont fck about when one of their teams goes into administration. Usually, its the end of the road.

Expect to see Darlington in the Northern League next season. In all honesty, it will do them good in the long run. Finally giving them a chance to escape the Reynolds legacy.


They're actively looking at leaving the arena he built - they're financially sound themselves as a club, but it's the costs of that place that's dragging them under.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by floyd__streete » 05 Jan 2012 18:48

http://www.darlofc.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=15733

Good luck Darlington.

(I'll never moan about the various happenings at RFC ever again).

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Uke » 05 Jan 2012 19:30

floyd__streete (I'll never moan about the various happenings at RFC ever again).


Quoted for posterity.

I'll give it a week...

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