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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Hoop Blah » 20 Dec 2011 16:22

As a legal entity it is new yes, but what makes the club (as opposed to legal entity) is the people.

It's the same people for the most part.

So they've absorbed a youth team to make the club a broader part of the community and changed the name. They've started new deals with suppliers (I'd like to know how many of the previous entities are doing business with the new one and how many have decided to walk away if they were left out of pocket by the liquidation) and registered a new name.

If Reading suddenly got bought out by Richard Branson and he re-branded the team as Virgin FC it would still be Reading FC in all but name. Are Aldershot really a different club than the one that went bust? No, we all think of them as the same old club with the same history and same rivalries.

I don't think Stag Meadow should be left empty and unused. I just think it's daft to suggest the two clubs aren't linked and that any hard feeling caused by W&E FCs demise shouldn't be held against WFC because their nothing to do with each other.

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Royal Rother » 20 Dec 2011 16:27

Nobody has denied the links.

You said it was the same club.

It isn't.

End of.

Again.

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Terminal Boardom » 20 Dec 2011 18:16

What would you have done then HB?

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Alan Partridge » 21 Dec 2011 09:26

So basically Windsor (having read their chairman's interview) aren't self sustaining. He's 'funding the original costs' and if they don't get permission to do their improvements 'i won't be doing it next season', sounds promising.................

Again this is where football is just morally wrong, goes down the swanny, reform a new club and accept no accountability for the previous misgivings because it's a 'new club'. Just start again making the same mistakes again reforming the exact same club with the same team on the field just playing 2 divisions lower slaughtering everyone, yeah well done for beating someone 10-0 when some of the players were playing in the Southern Premier League last season.

I fully understand why Windsor are held in contempt by a lot of teams at that level.

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Royal Rother » 21 Dec 2011 09:44

Morally wrong? Oh dear. The only person whose morals are remotely questionable here are those of the ex-Chairman.

If you cannot see past those blinkers to accept the real truth of what has happened / is happening at Stag Meadow (it's all there in my and TB's posts) then that's entirely your prerogative.

Amuse me for a moment - What mistakes have you identified that are being repeated by Windsor FC?


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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Alan Partridge » 21 Dec 2011 09:47

Royal Rother Morally wrong? Oh dear. The only person whose morals are remotely questionable here are those of the ex-Chairman.

If you cannot see past those blinkers to accept the real truth of what has happened / is happening at Stag Meadow (it's all there in my and TB's posts) then that's entirely your prerogative.

Amuse me for a moment - What mistakes have you identified that are being repeated by Windsor FC?


If you think the likes of Chennells are playing for Windsor instead of the team top of the SLP because of ambition you're more deluded than a West Ham fan.

Windsor aren't self sustaining, one year on from going out of business the new chairman has freely admitted he's 'funding the start up costs'

i find it utterly hilarious how pro RFC and finance you are and make such a big deal about how Reading do things the right way and self sustaining is the onyl option on the Team board yet you actively follow and support a club ran in the opposite way. Brilliant.

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Alan Partridge » 21 Dec 2011 09:49

Anyway to hopefully move this thread away from the circus at that mickey mouse club, fantastic result for Didcot on Saturday a 5-1 home win, rarer than Haley's Comet at the Loop sends Diddy into Christmas with a very nice cushion between them at the teams at the bottom. Abingdon Utd on Boxing day, they should beat them before playing Thatcham on New Years Eve, we all know that's a 'tough place to go'.

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Terminal Boardom » 21 Dec 2011 09:52

AP, does Kevin Stott say that the club will disappear if the plans don't take place? Of course he doesn't. There is no doubt that the 3G and Gym projects will provide long term financial stability for the club and the sooner they are in place, the better. IMHO, the 3G is the key. Get this up and running then self sustainability will be there. At least we are not in the same boat as Guildford City. A club with no facilities bankrolled by a Premier League footballer. Funny how no-one makes a noise about them. And why have Jake Parsons, Andrew Fagan and Michael Chennells joined Windsor? For the same reason why I am there!

Windsor aren't self sustaining, one year on from going out of business the new chairman has freely admitted he's 'funding the start up costs'


No secret there. He said that way back when the club was formed. He was always going to back the club financially in the first season and the plan has always been to get the 3G installed to enable the club to become self financing. This is old hat and common knowledge.

Out of curiosity, do you play for Didcot Town?

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Alan Partridge » 21 Dec 2011 09:53

Terminal Boardom AP, does Kevin Stott say that the club will disappear if the plans don't take place? Of course he doesn't. There is no doubt that the 3G and Gym projects will provide long term financial stability for the club and the sooner they are in place, the better. IMHO, the 3G is the key. Get this up and running then self sustainability will be there. At least we are not in the same boat as Guildford City. A club with no facilities bankrolled by a Premier League footballer. Funny how no-one makes a noise about them. And why have Jake Parsons, Andrew Fagan and Michael Chennells joined Windsor? For the same reason why I am there!

Windsor aren't self sustaining, one year on from going out of business the new chairman has freely admitted he's 'funding the start up costs'


No secret there. He said that way back when the club was formed. He was always going to back the club financially in the first season and the plan has always been to get the 3G installed to enable the club to become self financing. This is old hat and common knowledge.

Out of curiosity, do you play for Didcot Town?


No I don't although having watched them a few times this year I do feel I could do a job.


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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Royal Rother » 21 Dec 2011 10:00

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Royal Rother Morally wrong? Oh dear. The only person whose morals are remotely questionable here are those of the ex-Chairman.

If you cannot see past those blinkers to accept the real truth of what has happened / is happening at Stag Meadow (it's all there in my and TB's posts) then that's entirely your prerogative.

Amuse me for a moment - What mistakes have you identified that are being repeated by Windsor FC?


If you think the likes of Chennells are playing for Windsor instead of the team top of the SLP because of ambition you're more deluded than a West Ham fan.

Windsor aren't self sustaining, one year on from going out of business the new chairman has freely admitted he's 'funding the start up costs'

i find it utterly hilarious how pro RFC and finance you are and make such a big deal about how Reading do things the right way and self sustaining is the onyl option on the Team board yet you actively follow and support a club ran in the opposite way. Brilliant.


That's because you are incredibly blinkered.

SJM funded RFC's development with the absolute over-riding and oft-stated intention of ultimate self-sustainability.

EXACTLY the same at Windsor FC.

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by floyd__streete » 21 Dec 2011 13:33

Can't we just all agree that Rother is right about everything? Perhaps then he won't need to post as often as he does.

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Royal Rother » 21 Dec 2011 13:54

It would certainly be a step in the right direction.

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Terminal Boardom » 21 Dec 2011 14:06

Alan Partridge
If you think the likes of Chennells are playing for Windsor instead of the team top of the SLP because of ambition you're more deluded than a West Ham fan.



You are right. It isn't because of ambition. More to do with enjoying playing football again.


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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Four Of Clubs » 24 Dec 2011 09:18

Boxing Day (Monday 26th) matches in NL 'locally' - Will do the Tuesday games later :-

13:00 Welling v Dartford
13:00 Woking v Farnborough
Boreham Wood v Sutton Utd
Bromley v Tonbridge Angels
Chelmsford v Thurrock
Dorchester v Salisbury
Dover v Eastbourne Borough
Hampton & Richmond v Staines Town
Havant and W v Eastleigh
Maidenhead Utd v Basingstoke
Weston-S-Mare v Truro City

ISTH1S
13:00 Godalming Town v. Chipstead
12:00 Walton Casuals v. Walton & Hersham

SOUTHP
13:00 St. Albans City v Chesham United
SOUTH1C
Beaconsfield SYCOB v Slough Town
14:00 Bedfont Town v Chertsey Town
Chalfont St. Peter v Aylesbury
13:00 Fleet Town v Ashford Town (Middx)
11:30 Marlow v Burnham
North Greenford United v AFC Hayes
Uxbridge v Northwood
SOUTH1S&W
Abingdon United v Didcot Town
Thatcham Town v North Leigh

No ‘local’ matches on below this level on the 26th – most of CCL/HELL etc playing the next day Tue 27th (Bank Holiday)

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Royal Rother » 27 Dec 2011 17:58

Windsor 4-1 Egham Town in front of 806 (non paying) customers.

Hopefully a decent number of newcomers will come back for more!

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Four Of Clubs » 27 Dec 2011 20:21

Yesterday's results: Boxing Day (Monday 26th) :-

13:00 Welling 1-1 Dartford
13:00 Woking 1-0 Farnborough att over 3k
Boreham Wood 1-1 Sutton Utd
Bromley 2-2 Tonbridge Angels
Chelmsford 1-0 Thurrock
Dorchester 0-3 Salisbury
Dover 1-1 Eastbourne Borough
Hampton & Richmond 1-2 Staines Town
Havant and W 0-0 Eastleigh
Maidenhead Utd 1-1 Basingstoke
Weston-S-Mare 0-1 Truro City

ISTH1S
13:00 Godalming Town 1-0 Chipstead
12:00 Walton Casuals 2-0 Walton & Hersham

SOUTHP
13:00 St. Albans City 1-1 Chesham United
SOUTH1C
Beaconsfield SYCOB 0-2 Slough Town
14:00 Bedfont Town 2-2 Chertsey Town
Chalfont St. Peter 1-1 Aylesbury
13:00 Fleet Town 0-1 Ashford Town (Middx)
11:30 Marlow 0-2 Burnham
North Greenford United 1-1 AFC Hayes
Uxbridge 0-3 Northwood
SOUTH1S&W
Abingdon United 3-0 Didcot Town
Thatcham Town 1-0 North Leigh

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...AND sorry - bit busy this time of year :roll: so here's the Review from todays (27th) 'local' games - lots of big local match-ups - league sites are a bit slow with official attendances :

CCLP
0 1 Banstead Athletic v Epsom & Ewell
5 5 Cove v Camberley Town
3 0 Croydon v Mole Valley SCR
0 3 Farnham Town v Ash United
3 2 Guildford City v Dorking
3 0 Hanworth Villa v Wembley
4 0 Molesey v Chessington & Hook United
3 2 Sandhurst Town v Badshot Lea
2 1 South Park v Horley Town
4 1 Windsor v Egham Town
CCL1
1 3 Bookham v Frimley Green
1 3 CB Hounslow United v Feltham
4 0 Hartley Wintney v Eversley
1 2 Knaphill v Westfield
1 0 Spelthorne Sports v South Kilburn
0 1 Staines Lammas v Bedfont Sports
4 1 Worcester Park v Farleigh Rovers

The 'Bluefin' - Insurance Brokers Challenge Cup Round 2
2 2 Woodley Town v Newbury
FT 1 - 1, AET 2 - 2, Woodley Town won 4 - 3 on penalties
HELLP
3 1 Ardley United v Thame United
2 1 Binfield v Wokingham & Emmbrook
2 1 Bracknell Town v Ascot United
0 4 Fairford Town v Shortwood United
0 1 Flackwell Heath v Holyport
2 4 Kidlington v Henley Town
1 1 Reading Town v Wantage Town
0 3 Shrivenham v Highworth Town
4 2 Slimbridge v Cheltenham Saracens
0 3 Witney Town v Abingdon Town
HELL1E
1 1 Chinnor v Milton United
1 2 Penn & Tylers Green v Rayners Lane


.... got to Knaphill 1st fairly for a Noon KO ; tepid affair plenty of 'under the weather' performances - evidently all had a good Xmas in Woking 8)

..then screamed down a busier than comfortable M3 to just get to :

WESS1 AFC Portchester 2-1 Petersfield Utd

both crowds over the 100 mark.

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Royal Rother » 28 Dec 2011 08:22

Nice photo / video mash up of the Windsor v Egham game yesterday.

http://animoto.com/play/amz8KCpUAFfGTFB6KSTu1Q

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Barry the bird boggler » 28 Dec 2011 09:06

2 1 Bracknell Town v Ascot United :shock:

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Royal Rother » 28 Dec 2011 09:20

Mick Woodham, the (until recently) Youth Team Manager at Windsor has just taken up the position of manager there...and Bracknell have just taken delivery of 3 Windsor FC squad players on loan who need more games and experience. Dapo Abitogun and George Gould (son of cricket umpire Ian) have both tuned in excellent performances for Windsor and I'd expect them to make a difference to Bracknell.

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Re: Non - League thread 2011/12

by Big Foot » 28 Dec 2011 09:43

Abingdon beat Diddy 3-0 on Boxing Day, heard it was a fiery contest

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