mr_numberMaguire The point isn't that there's a thread at all (=understandable) but that it's 80% full of uttershit.
I'm guessing this is disappointing for you cf. the AE proportion of utter shit, which rarely drops below an impressive 95%
Brain Traysers Done a bit of research on the guy, there is very little on him and he seems to be working for his fathers company. I did however manage to dig a bit out on daddy and his investments...
Started and built up Ilim Pulp to be the largest paper producer in Russia, in 2006 he sold 50% of the company to International paper company for $650mill.
In July 2010 he became the primary shareholder of american based lithium-ion car battery producers Ener1 Inc, this is the company Anton works for as VP of operations, as well as CEO of their nanotechnology subsidiary NanoEner. The website is supposed to be nanoener.com but this doesn't load for me...
Since investing in Ener1, its share price has plummeted 97% from $3.25 to $0.0975 a share, with Q3 2010 earnings down 98% on the year.
The most recent operating profit figures (Q1 2011) show a $12.5M loss vs an expected $9.3M loss.
Now reading this doesn't sound too convincing assuming his wealth is mostly from his father, who has had a bad 18 months.
grey_squirrelBrain Traysers Done a bit of research on the guy, there is very little on him and he seems to be working for his fathers company. I did however manage to dig a bit out on daddy and his investments...
Started and built up Ilim Pulp to be the largest paper producer in Russia, in 2006 he sold 50% of the company to International paper company for $650mill.
In July 2010 he became the primary shareholder of american based lithium-ion car battery producers Ener1 Inc, this is the company Anton works for as VP of operations, as well as CEO of their nanotechnology subsidiary NanoEner. The website is supposed to be nanoener.com but this doesn't load for me...
Since investing in Ener1, its share price has plummeted 97% from $3.25 to $0.0975 a share, with Q3 2010 earnings down 98% on the year.
The most recent operating profit figures (Q1 2011) show a $12.5M loss vs an expected $9.3M loss.
Now reading this doesn't sound too convincing assuming his wealth is mostly from his father, who has had a bad 18 months.
That + the photo doesn't seem too RTG to me!
Maguiremr_numberMaguire The point isn't that there's a thread at all (=understandable) but that it's 80% full of uttershit.
I'm guessing this is disappointing for you cf. the AE proportion of utter shit, which rarely drops below an impressive 95%
'greed, I just don't read brendy's posts though
Cypry
On the surface the NanoEner thing seems bad, but how much did he invest? Might have been relatively cheap punt that went tits up. After all he sold HALF his original company for £650M, assuming he retains the other half he's certainly worth £1B+, so a punt on a car battery manufacturer of a few £10'sM is a drop in the ocean. Unless you know the context of his investment it's hard to criticise - the point has been made a number of times on here about SJM that serial investors probably have more failures than successes....
ZacNaloenCypry
On the surface the NanoEner thing seems bad, but how much did he invest? Might have been relatively cheap punt that went tits up. After all he sold HALF his original company for £650M, assuming he retains the other half he's certainly worth £1B+, so a punt on a car battery manufacturer of a few £10'sM is a drop in the ocean. Unless you know the context of his investment it's hard to criticise - the point has been made a number of times on here about SJM that serial investors probably have more failures than successes....
Have a look at their earnings estimates http://www.ener1.com/?q=content/tr-earnings-estimates
Ener1 is still in its early stages as a business and the technology they sell doesn't look to be completely mature yet, and of course last year was still a very tough year for a lot of organisations and electric cars haven't really taken off yet.
Just a few 10s of thousand sold last year across all manufacturers and I dont know how many of those if any used their battery.
You can't really write off this particular business as a failure just yet.
CypryZacNaloenCypry
On the surface the NanoEner thing seems bad, but how much did he invest? Might have been relatively cheap punt that went tits up. After all he sold HALF his original company for £650M, assuming he retains the other half he's certainly worth £1B+, so a punt on a car battery manufacturer of a few £10'sM is a drop in the ocean. Unless you know the context of his investment it's hard to criticise - the point has been made a number of times on here about SJM that serial investors probably have more failures than successes....
Have a look at their earnings estimates http://www.ener1.com/?q=content/tr-earnings-estimates
Ener1 is still in its early stages as a business and the technology they sell doesn't look to be completely mature yet, and of course last year was still a very tough year for a lot of organisations and electric cars haven't really taken off yet.
Just a few 10s of thousand sold last year across all manufacturers and I dont know how many of those if any used their battery.
You can't really write off this particular business as a failure just yet.
So NanoEner and Ener1 are the same business? must've mised something somewhere...
dogzbollox P,S, I had to edit - nothing to do with anything here but scroll further down the article & check out the bit about Michael Duberry..........
FiNeRaIn Lets be honest, the papers have far better research means and methods than a couple of football fans on a forum using google. He probably isn't as rich as some of them have said. Equally he's not as poor as the fella driving an ice cream van around corporate car parks with his music on in the winter.
Bacon Double CheeseFiNeRaIn Lets be honest, the papers have far better research means and methods than a couple of football fans on a forum using google. He probably isn't as rich as some of them have said. Equally he's not as poor as the fella driving an ice cream van around corporate car parks with his music on in the winter.
I happen to know that Brain Traysers has excellent sources that are not Google.
HTFH.
Z175 Zingarevich Jr. is believed to be a Zenit St Petersburg supporter. Speaking to Fontanka.ru (a St Pete based media outlet) the Russian stressed he aims to create “a profound outfit” at Reading.
When asked which team he would support if Reading met Zenit in a European competition, he noted: “You won’t confuse me. If the clubs meet each other then the TSI investors have made a good choice supporting my business plan.”
http://rt.com/sport/football/zingarevic ... ading-515/
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