Sinking Ship

[Schards#2]

He'd have been an idiot not to use Wolves interest to his advantage, means absolutely nothing in whether he'd have actually gone. He'd have likely got a better offer from the Prem in the summer without an almost certain relegation on his CV instead of another play off campaign without big spending.

The fact is NO ONE wanted the Wolves job, why would BMcD?

No Ian, it's not a fact, it's your opinion. Unless, of course you a privvy to the workings of the Wolves board and know exactly who applied and who was offered what. I'm guessing you aren't.

There are 20 Premier League managerial positions and, of those, about 3-4 will become available per year. Even in Wolves's position of the time, if you think no one would be interested in an opportunity at a Premier League club you are, as per, hugely mistaken.

Sorry, it's not a fact that Wolves couldn't find someone to take on the job and had to employ from within in a massively embarrassing shambles?

What does your colon actually look like from the inside?

No Ian, it's not a fact, it's your opinion and, as usual, it's completely wrong.

Wolves went for Terry Conner in preference to others who wanted the job one of whom is personally known to me and was interviewed, was keen to take it and was extremely disappointed not to get it.

[Schards#2]

I did. Anyway #end thread.

Which makes your post remarkably stupid.

[Archie's penalty]

You ARE continuing the argument. Anyway, x

[Royal Rother]

Ah, the old "personal friend" who can't be named line...

Like it!

[ZacNaloen]

Ah, the old "personal friend" who can't be named line...

Like it!

You can't beat it!

[Ian Royal]

No Ian, it's not a fact, it's your opinion. Unless, of course you a privvy to the workings of the Wolves board and know exactly who applied and who was offered what. I'm guessing you aren't.

There are 20 Premier League managerial positions and, of those, about 3-4 will become available per year. Even in Wolves's position of the time, if you think no one would be interested in an opportunity at a Premier League club you are, as per, hugely mistaken.

Sorry, it's not a fact that Wolves couldn't find someone to take on the job and had to employ from within in a massively embarrassing shambles?

What does your colon actually look like from the inside?

No Ian, it's not a fact, it's your opinion and, as usual, it's completely wrong.

Wolves went for Terry Conner in preference to others who wanted the job one of whom is personally known to me and was interviewed, was keen to take it and was extremely disappointed not to get it.

Royal Lady not too keen on her current position?

But fair enough, I'll take it back and say something different given it was perhaps a bit inaccurate and you aren't capable of seeing the real intent behind it.

NO ONE with any real credibility or quality to manage at that level, wanted the job.

Curbishley - no job. No Thanks.
Bruce - no job? No Thanks.

Ahhh, bugger we'll have to go with Lawrie Sanchez, Trevor Senior, Royal Lady or Terry Conner.... tough call.

[Schards#2]

What makes you think Steve Bruce turned them down?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17310726

[Avon Royal]

What does your colon actually look like from the inside?

It probably lacks the teeth and tongue that yours has.

[Ian Royal]

What makes you think Steve Bruce turned them down?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17310726

Speculation at the time. That's actually very funny that he didn't get it and wanted it.

Still, doesn't mean McDermott would have taken it.

[Schards#2]

What makes you think Steve Bruce turned them down?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17310726

Speculation at the time. That's actually very funny that he didn't get it and wanted it.

Still, doesn't mean McDermott would have taken it.

So, basically, do you agree you were completely wrong about no one credible wanting the job, Bruce in particular?

[Ian Royal]

What makes you think Steve Bruce turned them down?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17310726

Speculation at the time. That's actually very funny that he didn't get it and wanted it.

Still, doesn't mean McDermott would have taken it.

So, basically, do you agree you were completely wrong about no one credible wanting the job, Bruce in particular?

Do you agree that you were wrong about dull and uninspiring football and a need for a sea-change to avoid midtable mediocrity at best? Do you conceed I'm right that it's far from certain McDermott would have gone to Wolves without TSI?

[Schards#2]

Speculation at the time. That's actually very funny that he didn't get it and wanted it.

Still, doesn't mean McDermott would have taken it.

So, basically, do you agree you were completely wrong about no one credible wanting the job, Bruce in particular?

Do you agree that you were wrong about dull and uninspiring football and a need for a sea-change to avoid midtable mediocrity at best? Do you conceed I'm right that it's far from certain McDermott would have gone to Wolves without TSI?

Seems a bit rude not to answer the question but I guess it's not like we don't all know the answer, maye you should be a bit more restrained about telling people they've got their head up their arse until you're sure you're not spouting utter rubbish.

Both your questions are answered in this thread already, no, and, whilst I agree it was far from certain that McDermott would have gone to Wolves, I never said it was I said no one knows. But you seemed to think you did.

[Ian Royal]

Well, if you won't admit you were wrong about that in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, then I feel no need to agree I was wrong about Bruce not wanting the job in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

You just made that link up yourself. The voice is clearly muppett. lalalalalalalala I'm not listening.

[Royal With Cheese]

Can't see either leaving anytime soon so supporting Reading's going to be a whole lot duller and uninspiring than in recent years
That was the whole crux of basically 104 pages of rubbish.

Broadly agreed with most of the rest.

His defence of it has been laughable.

I'm out.

[Royal With Cheese]

Wolves went for Terry Conner in preference to others who wanted the job one of whom is personally known to me and was interviewed, was keen to take it and was extremely disappointed not to get it.

Ah ha! the oldest trick in the book. You know, but obviously can't reveal your source - just like the "bets" put on that are only revealed on a Sunday morning.

[Royal With Cheese]

I'm ovbiously not out.

Apologies.

[Royal Lady]

Some people are aware that we know a lot of famous people - including some in the football world - however, although, on occasion, I have mentioned some, it would not be right to mention the others. All I will say is that the person who was interviewed and really wanted the job and thought he'd got it at one point, subsequently joined another team and is probably better off there as I doubt even he could have saved Wolves at this late stage. Whether you choose to believe us or not, is entirely up to you, but we don't make stuff up for the hell of it.

Bringing up everything Schards has said in the last 4 years or whatever is pedantic and pathetic. Schards was looking at the bigger picture - how many people REALLY thought that by continually selling off our best players and having a chairman whose heart was no longer in it and who didn't want to invest, we'd still be playing fantastic football and getting some of the results that we did? Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

And though I don't always agree with Schards, and I can assure you of that, some of the games we have played this season alone have been pretty dire, although we have managed to grind out a result when it was needed.

One minute people say the internet isn't real life and you can say what you want, but when someone has an opinion that is different to yours, and they give you reasons as to why they think the way they do, they're just shot down and ridiculed. I don't know why Schards bothers to argue back - none of the numpties are going to change their minds about what he says. And I think that's the crux, some people have taken a dislike to us and so it wouldn't matter if we said that grass is green, one of you would find a way to argue it.

[3 veesinarow]

RL, I love you and have no beef with anyone, including Schards, (well, except Chi, of course), but this - when someone has an opinion that is different to yours, and they give you reasons as to why they think the way they do, they're just shot down and ridiculed - applies equally to the way Schards flamed down HR because, in his opinion, HR doesn't attend enough games. Also, Schards doesn't change his mind about what he says, so why should anyone else be expected to shift their opinion to back up his? You've fallen into the trap of calling people numpties simply because they're having a disagreement with him. I wouldn't expect you to do anything else other than back him up - why should you? - but please don't brand people as numpties simply because they disagree with you or Schards - that is what free debate is all about and it weakens your debating skills.

[Royal Lady]

Without wishing to get into more arguments - surely someone who rarely goes to games can't have an opinion on how we play week in, week out - because he, simply, doesn't see the games live as a lot of other people do. It's like frimmers having an opinion on X factor, when he never watches it.

So, the way I saw it, Schards couldn't understand how HR could form such opinions if he's hardly seen us play. That's not saying he's a bigger or better fan, it's just Schards' opinion of HR's comments.

[3 veesinarow]

Someone's going to have to remind me what 'Dull and Uninspiring' means. If the past few seasons have been, then I'm hoping that next season is going to be another one.

<sigh>

So, here's HR's original comment - hardly earth-shatteringly controversial, but let's roll with it. My humble interpretation of that is that he has seen the seasons (not individual games, many of which have been acknowledged by all anti-Schardists as poor) overall as exciting and interesting, despite his non-attendance at most games.

An opinion. Who knew?

I have seen precisely six games this season, only two of those at home and we drew both. We do have tickets for Palace and Brum because we're band-waggoning daytrippers.
However, I believe I can safely say, without fear of prejudice or contradiction, that this season has been THRILLING. How could I possibly come to such an opinion without standing shoulder to shoulder with Blackie for every minute of every game? I must be a numpty to think this.