Roberts Red Card

[Pool and Darts]

No, however my gut reaction seeing it from Y26 was that it was a straight red. For me however in the LOTG this is the argument between what should be classed as Reckless and what is Careless, Reckless being the definition of a Red Card Offence and Careless being a yellow.

reckless play is a yellow card.

Reds are dished out for violent conduct or serious foul play - i.e. endangering an opponent.

The ref (using the term loosely) has decided that it was violent conduct.
If he has agreed to look at it again, then maybe he has doubts about intent and that it might have been incidental contact.
The fact that he felt the need to give us a free kick when Gorkss pushes an opposition player to the floor shortly afterwards suggests that he knew he made a mistake.

Either way, I am seriously thinking about giving up refereeing.

[RoyalBlue]

D'Arsole should take a look at the sequence of stills on the RFC OS to see just how wrong he got this. Having looked at them myself I would even suggest that Parr might have realised he had brought down Roberts, as they fought for the ball, and therefore decided to make a meal of his 'injury' to distract the ref's attention from the offence he had committed.

The reaction of some of the Palace players (patting Robertys on the back) and Dougie Freeman would also suggest that they didn't think Roberts had deliberately struck Parr nor deserved to be sent off.

[royalsteve]

defo not a red card or yellow for that matter and should have been a fkick to Reading as i thought at the time - you could possibly see why a ref would give a yellow for it, but a red card wtf!!!!

ref was a joke and was poor all match

[Royalwaster]

Talking of shit refs ... has anyone watched the highlights of the Bristol vs Barnsley game? Two completely wrong off-sides given and a penalty for nothing - both against Barnsley ... one of the off-sides was so not off-side it was amazing ...

[ZacNaloen]

Hmnm, those still suggest if wasn't an elbow. Parr ran into his fore arm.

[Terminal Boardom]

Talking of shit refs ... has anyone watched the highlights of the Bristol vs Barnsley game? Two completely wrong off-sides given and a penalty for nothing - both against Barnsley ... one of the off-sides was so not off-side it was amazing ...

You think that's bad? You need to see most of the non league officials I have seen this season.

The media talk about goal line technology but offside calls need to be under the auspices of a tv official as well. As the game gets faster, the harder it is to get the calls right.

As for JR's red card, what I saw on tv looked bad and I can understand why a red was given. 0% chance of being rescinded.

[3 veesinarow]

Hmnm, those still suggest if wasn't an elbow. Parr ran into his fore arm.

Yes, and...? You'll need to clarify that a little. If you mean that there was contact etc, you've just said yourself that Parr ran into a part of Jason's arm, be it elbow or forearm. Either way, it was accidental and came after Jason had been ankle-tapped for what should have been a free-kick for us.

[Maguire]

I try not to be partisan about these things but the highlights just show something that happens in every single game, all over the leagues. Roberts plainly didn't throw an elbow, he reached out to hold off the defender. Accident.

[Mr Angry]

Talking of shit refs ... has anyone watched the highlights of the Bristol vs Barnsley game? Two completely wrong off-sides given and a penalty for nothing - both against Barnsley ... one of the off-sides was so not off-side it was amazing ...

That was a truly appalling display from the slaphead linesman wasn't it!

[William Oddie]

club NOT appealing

[Royal With Cheese]

club NOT appealing

http://www.readingfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10306~2746441,00.html

[mr_number]

Gutted. I guess they knew it wasn't going to be rescinded, and really this game doesn't mean anything, but it does just feel sad for J-Dog. I'm sure he'll get a big reception at the game anyway.

[robb the royal]

Talking of shit refs ... has anyone watched the highlights of the Bristol vs Barnsley game? Two completely wrong off-sides given and a penalty for nothing - both against Barnsley ... one of the off-sides was so not off-side it was amazing ...

You think that's bad? You need to see most of the non league officials I have seen this season.

The media talk about goal line technology but offside calls need to be under the auspices of a tv official as well. As the game gets faster, the harder it is to get the calls right.

As for JR's red card, what I saw on tv looked bad and I can understand why a red was given. 0% chance of being rescinded.

You think they are bad? Watch the penalty given in the last seconds of the A-league final!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMr1g9cC ... ed#t=0m22s

[RoyalBlue]

So McDermott's faith in D'Arsole doing the right thing, accepting that he had made an honest mistake and rescinding the red card (thus negating the need for an appeal) was completely misplaced.

Let's hope the lump of human excrement that is D'Arsole never darkens our doors again. A truly dreadful and arrogant official. No respect for him whatsover, nor does he deserve any.

[Eastkentroyal]

Gutted. I guess they knew it wasn't going to be rescinded, and really this game doesn't mean anything, but it does just feel sad for J-Dog. I'm sure he'll get a big reception at the game anyway.

The Birmingham game might not mean anything but the first two games of next season do mean a lot.

[TBM]

So McDermott's faith in D'Arsole doing the right thing, accepting that he had made an honest mistake and rescinding the red card (thus negating the need for an appeal) was completely misplaced.

Let's hope the lump of human excrement that is D'Arsole never darkens our doors again. A truly dreadful and arrogant official. No respect for him whatsover, nor does he deserve any.

Roberts threw his arm back, caught the bloke in the face.....its not as if anyone cheated

[andrew1957]

D'Urso has presumably indicated that he is not going to change his opinion so there is absolutely no point appealing.

To be fair to the ref having seen the clip of this you can see why he would stand his ground on this. I think there was intent so a 3 march ban is fair enough really.

At the end of the day Roberts only has himself to blame for missing the first two PL matches.

[Drew_3]

D'Urso has presumably indicated that he is not going to change his opinion so there is absolutely no point appealing.

To be fair to the ref having seen the clip of this you can see why he would stand his ground on this. I think there was intent so a 3 march ban is fair enough really.

At the end of the day Roberts only has himself to blame for missing the first two PL matches.

His arms are raised yes, but if you really believe there was "intent" then you have obviously never played the game (not at a high enough level anyway!)

[Woodcote Royal]

The fact the club feel they can't appeal an obvious error of judgement, from yet another incompetent official, for fear of further retribution for an offence that never took place, says everything about where the real lack of respect lies in our relationship with today's referees.

In comparison to many other clubs, we've got off lightly this season with just the one red, yet we've still got our main striker out for three games and a midfielder who suffered a broken ankle with the perpetrator not even seeing yellow

I believe nothing needs sorting more in today's game than a proper system of OPEN and INDEPENDENT assessment of our officials whereby those who consistently fail to reach the required standard are removed, and incidents such as Karacan suffering serious injury from a player who received no punishment are reviewed as a matter of course, rather than being brushed under the carpet within 24 hours. As ever, respect is a two way street

[Rex]

What is actually the percentage of cards rescinded. Pretty low i seem to recall. It's a real shame but i think D'Urso cannot be seen to be making the wrong decision. If D'Urso said he would review it, perhaps D'Urso simply changed his mind.