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Re: New England manager

by Extended-Phenotype » 03 May 2012 15:59

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Extended-Phenotype Rooney is an annoying enigma. The flashes of brilliance he shows for Man U and to a less extent England, shows what a valuable player he could be. Yet if the setup isn’t perfect, he is more detrimental to the side than beneficial.

I don’t think England have the players to harness Rooney, and in a unrehearsed team of players varying in standards, form and confidence, we can’t afford players running around doing what they want.

As hard as it is, even if he IS our best player, I sometimes think England would work better with a more conventional and disciplined striker.

Let’s face it, Rooney was at his best for England (2004) when he was just that; a conventional striker in a 4-4-2.


Let's try and forget about 2004. He was carrying an injury, he was worried about certain soon-to-be-public facts about his private life, everybody was playing rubbish, whatever.

Trouble is all that we have of these:

Extended-Phenotype a more conventional and disciplined striker.


are just quite rubbish.

The very idea that, at a time when we have a historic dearth of forward talent, we would drop a guy close to being top-scorer in the prem, who is also creative, and has years of experience playing at the highest level, and who, despite accusations of hot-headedness, had so far gone the season with a single yellow card, is perverse. (Yes, I said perverse. I knew you'd like that.)

Even if he's only going to play one game.



Do you mean forget about 2010, or did you watch a different tournament?!

You are right. I liked 'peverse'. But I still think it's pointless taking a player who, regardless of talent, does not play well for the team.

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Re: New England manager

by M-U-R-T-Y » 03 May 2012 16:08

who are ya? wofl


shit :lol:

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Re: New England manager

by Ian Royal » 03 May 2012 16:13

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Extended-Phenotype Rooney is an annoying enigma. The flashes of brilliance he shows for Man U and to a less extent England, shows what a valuable player he could be. Yet if the setup isn’t perfect, he is more detrimental to the side than beneficial.

I don’t think England have the players to harness Rooney, and in a unrehearsed team of players varying in standards, form and confidence, we can’t afford players running around doing what they want.

As hard as it is, even if he IS our best player, I sometimes think England would work better with a more conventional and disciplined striker.

Let’s face it, Rooney was at his best for England (2004) when he was just that; a conventional striker in a 4-4-2.


Let's try and forget about 2004. He was carrying an injury, he was worried about certain soon-to-be-public facts about his private life, everybody was playing rubbish, whatever.

Trouble is all that we have of these:

Extended-Phenotype a more conventional and disciplined striker.


are just quite rubbish.

The very idea that, at a time when we have a historic dearth of forward talent, we would drop a guy close to being top-scorer in the prem, who is also creative, and has years of experience playing at the highest level, and who, despite accusations of hot-headedness, had so far gone the season with a single yellow card, is perverse. (Yes, I said perverse. I knew you'd like that.)

Even if he's only going to play one game.



Do you mean forget about 2010, or did you watch a different tournament?!

You are right. I liked 'peverse'. But I still think it's pointless taking a player who, regardless of talent, does not play well for the team.


Before his ban was reduced I'd have agreed. He is by far and away our best striker, but seems to have a problem performing for England. However, with the ban down to two games and his scoring and disciplinary record this season, I think we'd be bonkers to leave him behind now.

Taking him doesn't mean we have to play him if everything is going swimmingly after two games. If it isn't then he may be able to make the difference that we'd need.

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Re: New England manager

by Pseud O'Nym » 03 May 2012 16:45

Royal Lady I also dislike people, esp the media, taking the p out of him for not being able to pronounce his letter "R". :evil:


Point taken, WL.

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Re: New England manager

by Stuka » 03 May 2012 17:22

The Chief Executive of the FA has just spoken to Roy Hodgson to tell him "Don`t forget we`ve not got Wayne for the first two matches." To which Hodgson replied "Dont bother me with a f**king weather forecast now you Pwick"


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Re: New England manager

by Man Friday » 03 May 2012 19:13

TBM Yeah, lets leave Rooney at home and take Danny Welbeck or Bobby Zamora - or better still...........Andy Carroll

Spot on. He's generally more of a liability than an asset.

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Re: New England manager

by Man Friday » 03 May 2012 19:15

Pseud O'Nym
Royal Lady I also dislike people, esp the media, taking the p out of him for not being able to pronounce his letter "R". :evil:


Point taken, WL.

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Re: New England manager

by cmonurz » 04 May 2012 08:00

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -vote.html

And it continues, this time the Telegraph writes an entire article about the German FA's massive shrug at the appointment of Hodgson.

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Re: New England manager

by Uke » 04 May 2012 08:11

cmonurz http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/9244690/Roy-Hodgson-the-wrong-appointment-for-England-say-Germans-as-Harry-Redknapp-wins-their-vote.html

And it continues, this time the Telegraph writes an entire article about the German FA's massive shrug at the appointment of Hodgson.



Two players and a manager none of whom have played against one of his teams...

Not quite the "FA", nor the "Senior figures in German football" - although their arrogance is encouraging ;)


A cynic could think all this Roy-h8 is because he doesn't talk to the press all the time and instead concentrates on doing his job...


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Re: New England manager

by Extended-Phenotype » 04 May 2012 11:09

Chief Exec accidentally spat coffee in Roy's face yesterday – apparently when asked about the captaincy. Roy is meant to have said he will rank his players in order of preference – dunno what's so shocking about that to be honest.

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Re: New England manager

by BR2 » 04 May 2012 11:17

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cmonurz http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/9244690/Roy-Hodgson-the-wrong-appointment-for-England-say-Germans-as-Harry-Redknapp-wins-their-vote.html

And it continues, this time the Telegraph writes an entire article about the German FA's massive shrug at the appointment of Hodgson.



Two players and a manager none of whom have played against one of his teams...

Not quite the "FA", nor the "Senior figures in German football" - although their arrogance is encouraging ;)


A cynic could think all this Roy-h8 is because he doesn't talk to the press all the time and instead concentrates on doing his job...


Same kind of stuff in The Mail.
Imagine asking say Ashley Cole and John Terry about the merits of German or Italian league managers from the past-I'm sure they would also say "Who?"
Footballs being insular shock.

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Re: New England manager

by Bandini » 04 May 2012 14:38

Royal Lady I also dislike people


Characteristically hate-filled post from RL.

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Re: New England manager

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Re: New England manager

by Big Foot » 11 May 2012 08:39

Captain: if someone who has been captain before, "predictable". If not, "wrong".
Average age of squad over 26: too old, over-reliance on the failed so-called "golden generation".
Average age of squad under 26: inexperienced/ruining our chances for the Olympics (I forget whether we care about this or not).
Goalkeepers:
Joe Hart: obvious choice and deserves no credit.
Rob Green: plays for a championship club. Only selected due to failure to persuade anyone else out of retirement, ergo poor man-management.
Ben Foster: nepotism.
Right back:
Failure to take all of Micah Richards, Glen Johnson, Kyle Walker, Phil Jones and Chris Smalling constitutes a decision, and therefore automatically a risky/wrong one.
Left back:
Ashley Cole: obvious, deserves no credit. If a back-up is selected: unnecessary, waste of a squad place (cf. Stephen Warnock). If not: short-sighted.
Centre back:
Failure to persuade Rio and Terry to play together is poor man-management. Success is "too risky".
Central Midfield:
Gerrard: make reference to Hodgson's time at Liverpool and cast doubt on ability to get a performance out of him.
Lampard: too similar to Gerrard. If not picked, make unflattering AVB comparisons.
Scott Parker: would certainly perform better if 'Arry was manager
Carrick/Barry: boring.
Scholes: if picked, desperate. If not picked, a missed opportunity
Anyone else: an unknown quantity.
Wings:
Joe Cole: if not picked, point out that he has been playing brilliantly in France. If picked, point out that he has been rubbish in France. No-one will bother to check either way.
Ashley Young: if picked, diver that will not fool continental referees, therefore a waste of space. If not picked, point to past goalscoring form and ability to win penalties.
Adam Johnson: if picked, has hardly played for Man City this season. If not picked, has hardly played for Man City this season and would have bought much-needed freshness to the squad.
Walcott: if picked, has only ever performed that one time against Croatia. If not picked, performed that one time against Croatia.
Stewart Downing: if picked, 0 goals 0 assists. If not picked, bemoan lack of natural left-footers in the squad.
Anyone who plays for Swansea: if picked, they play for Swansea, a small club. If not, harshly overlooked.
Strikers:
Rooney: if picked, waste of a squad place. We'll be out after 2 games anyway. If not picked, have "ROO-DICULOUS!!!" headlines on standby.
Andy Carroll: if picked, has been rubbish all season. If not, has been brilliant for the last two games.
Defoe: if picked, has not played all season. If not, gifted finisher, adds freshness to the squad, 'Arry would have picked him.
Crouch: if picked, exposes England's dearth of strikers. If not, think of the wonder-goal.
Sturridge/Welbeck: if picked, inexperienced. If not, robbing the future of English football of valuable tournament experience.



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Re: New England manager

by winchester_royal » 11 May 2012 10:22



That's brilliant. :lol:

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Re: New England manager

by Big Ern » 12 May 2012 16:15

cmonurz http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/9244690/Roy-Hodgson-the-wrong-appointment-for-England-say-Germans-as-Harry-Redknapp-wins-their-vote.html

And it continues, this time the Telegraph writes an entire article about the German FA's massive shrug at the appointment of Hodgson.


The press still smarting their mate Arry didn't get the job. Pathetic really.

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Re: New England manager

by daswonder » 14 May 2012 12:51

Gary Neville signs four-year contract with FA to join Roy Hodgson's England coaching team

Source - http://www.thefa.com/England/News/2012/neville-appointed-to-coaching-staff-140512

Hodgson on G Neville:
'It's very important we have a younger coach who knows the dressing room & is very experienced at international level'

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Re: New England manager

by Royal Rother » 14 May 2012 13:01

Good move. Top man GN.

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Re: New England manager

by who are ya? » 14 May 2012 13:03

Just to gain a few extra fans on Merseyside in time for the Euros :lol:

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Re: New England manager

by Alan Partridge » 14 May 2012 13:06

Excellent decision, I'm liking the management team more than the players.

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