by ZacNaloen » 09 May 2012 16:00
by Maguire » 09 May 2012 16:11
by Extended-Phenotype » 09 May 2012 16:24
Barry the bird boggler Out of interest what is out points per game ratio when a) it rains for most of the game, b) it's not raining, c) it rains for a while before the game
by Snowball » 09 May 2012 16:31
by Snowball » 09 May 2012 16:51
Ian Royal We've had a pretty strong defence and defensive midfield for most the season and conceeded bugger all goals,
so I wouldn't expect many people to have made more than the odd mistake that directly leads to a goal.
Ian Royal For all Harte's quality set piece delivery, he hasn't actually scored many goals from free kicks this season, and we don't just score from corners when he takes them.
Ian Royal I think he's surpassed expectations and is a great squad player...
Ian Royal but I am very nervous about going into next season if he's going to be first choice and another year older.
by Ian Royal » 09 May 2012 17:18
ZacNaloen Tbf, Long won us a boat load* of free kicks in the perfect place for Ian Harte to take them. That hasn't been happening this year really.
*So often in fact that I'm 90% sure he played for every single one of them.
by Snowball » 09 May 2012 18:04
by Ian Royal » 09 May 2012 18:05
by Snowball » 09 May 2012 18:14
Ian Royal WTF cares whether anyone else had a Wembley hangover. We did, and that's all that matters.
by Ian Royal » 09 May 2012 19:33
by Snowball » 09 May 2012 22:23
by Wimb » 10 May 2012 03:23
by Snowball » 10 May 2012 07:37
Wimb Not discounting that other factors played a role but when the players, manager and staff have admitted there was a bit of a hangover that's good enough for me.
by cmonurz » 10 May 2012 08:34
by Maguire » 10 May 2012 09:03
by bigmike » 10 May 2012 09:25
Snowball McDermott ALSO said we didn't (before he said we did)
and it was easy to say we did, after the fact, when the corner
had been turned etc etc.
by Extended-Phenotype » 10 May 2012 09:30
by bigmike » 10 May 2012 09:32
SnowballWimb Not discounting that other factors played a role but when the players, manager and staff have admitted there was a bit of a hangover that's good enough for me.
Said WAY after the fact. At the time denied.
Also, simple reflection on the last 25 years shows that a hangover from losing the POs is relatively rare.
Was it a hangover that made RFC fight back from 0-2 down in its first game?
Was it a hangover that motivated RFC to a great away win at Leicester in the next game?
Was it a hangover that caused RFC to hit the woodwork, have a good goal disallowed and a very good penalty denied at Portsmouth?
Was it a hangover that caused Griffin to break down in that game?
Was it a hangover that meant we had to play Bryn at RB in the next game versus Barnsley, then pull him off after 70 minutes?
Was it a hangover that made RFC miss two penalties, and lose to Barnsley, when, in fact, we hammered them?
Was it a hangover that Shane Long left after the first game and would take time to replace?
Was it a hangover that Khumalo would be a totally wrong fit for the club and would be permanently out after just 4 games?
Was it a hangover that forced McDermot to bring back Griffin for Hull away only to see him break down again?
Was it a hangover that forced us to bring on CHURCH for Griffin and move a midfielder to RB?
Was it a hangover that made us concede a freak goal in what looked like a 0-0 draw away, Gorkss first game?
Was it a hangover that brought back Griffin for the THIRD time in five games, (v Watford) and AGAIN he broke down? Presumably Cummings had been out injured?
Was it a hangover that made us play 4 different right backs in the first six games, and two different left backs, and three CBs?
There was a summer hangover, Elwood was a bit meh for 6-7 days (married in the summer)
and Harte was a bit off form, coasting, maybe. But we had lost Mills and Long, had pre-season
injury (Cummings) in-season injury (Griffin) and a terrible-fit CB in Khumalo.
We had to blood a new attack, bed in four new players, Khumalo (disaster, did he have the hangover?)
Le Fondre (did he have the hangover?), Gorkss (did he have the hangover?), Mills (did he have the hangover?)
IMO, I agree with what McDermot said at the time. New team and a slow start, new attack, new defence, it takes time.
Plus we got unlucky at Pompey (where we rarely do well), a bit unlucky at Hull, freak goal for them, disallowed one
for us, Church miss. And how exactly we lost to Barnsley, God only knows, just the vagaries of football.
It could easily have been DWDDW going into the Watford game (where we really WERE poor)
I though we were terrible at Bristol, too, even though somehow we contrived to win it (karma after Barnsley!)
by facaldaqui » 10 May 2012 11:13
by Hoop Blah » 10 May 2012 11:27
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