LOLiverpooLOL - Next Season

[Barry the bird boggler]

It's common sense to look at the young up and coming managers who have done well consistently and let's face it Martiez basically built the foundations of the current Swansea team and has done well to keep Wigan in the PL on naff all crowds and limited players. All he needs a chance at a big club and he could start something there if people are patient.

Still think AVB or Rafa will be the final short list though. Mind you if they persuaded Guardiola or Mourinho their way it could be very interesting.

[cmonurz]

I'm actually expecting Capello to be the new boss.

[No Fixed Abode]

I'm actually expecting Capello to be the new boss.

Depends if Chelsea want him, then he'll go there.

[Starfish]

I'm actually expecting Capello to be the new boss.

Depends if Chelsea want him, then he'll go there.

Kes, a simple question. Do you, or Chelsea fans in general, want Di Matteo to be given the job on a permanent basis?

[cmonurz]

I'm actually expecting Capello to be the new boss.

Depends if Chelsea want him, then he'll go there.

Agreed, actually, I'm just working on the assumption Chelsea keep Di Matteo.

[TBM]

Will Liverpool try with O'Neill?

[No Fixed Abode]

Didn't mean that in terms of putting Liverpool down m8 - just I think he'd prefer cosmopolitan London to Liverpool.

IMO though - it's a tough one for the Chelsea managerial role. I can't see how they can't give the job to Di Matteo IF Chelsea win tomorrow night. Morally it would be the right thing to do.

However, looking at the bigger picture and knowing Roman wants success as well as attractive football, then Pep Guardiola seems the only choice. Whether he's ready to come back into management so soon, who knows. But I'm pretty sure that's the man who Roman wants really........

[cmonurz]

Who in their right mind would take on the LOLerpooLOL job now, after LOLglish has spent all the money..?They asked Rodgers, and he said he wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

[TBM]

Didn't mean that in terms of putting Liverpool down m8 - just I think he'd prefer cosmopolitan London to Liverpool.

IMO though - it's a tough one for the Chelsea managerial role. I can't see how they can't give the job to Di Matteo IF Chelsea win tomorrow night. Morally it would be the right thing to do.

However, looking at the bigger picture and knowing Roman wants success as well as attractive football, then Pep Guardiola seems the only choice. Whether he's ready to come back into management so soon, who knows. But I'm pretty sure that's the man who Roman wants really........

Thing is, are Chelsea doing wel due to Di Matteo OR is it just the fact AVB has now gone and the senior players are happy again?

I notice Terry calls him "Robbie" etc - he sounds more like one of their mates than their manager

[No Fixed Abode]

Who in their right mind would take on the LOLerpooLOL job now, after LOLglish has spent all the money..?
They asked Rodgers, and he said he wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

I think Rodgers learned his lesson when he moved to Reading. It was too soon. Same here with this move. If he goes to Liverpool and messes up, basically most top teams won't touch him. For now, he's better off at Swansea continuing the gr8 job he's doing. Maybe in another couple of seasons this move would be right for him.

[No Fixed Abode]

Didn't mean that in terms of putting Liverpool down m8 - just I think he'd prefer cosmopolitan London to Liverpool.

IMO though - it's a tough one for the Chelsea managerial role. I can't see how they can't give the job to Di Matteo IF Chelsea win tomorrow night. Morally it would be the right thing to do.

However, looking at the bigger picture and knowing Roman wants success as well as attractive football, then Pep Guardiola seems the only choice. Whether he's ready to come back into management so soon, who knows. But I'm pretty sure that's the man who Roman wants really........

Thing is, are Chelsea doing wel due to Di Matteo OR is it just the fact AVB has now gone and the senior players are happy again?

I notice Terry calls him "Robbie" etc - he sounds more like one of their mates than their manager

I think it's a bit of both but mainly the latter. Seems more team spirit now - which AVB seemed to strip from the club due to the way he wanted them to play. I'm sure AVB is still a good manager but I think he tried to change too much too soon at Chelsea and it didn't work due to the personnel at Chelsea. Much the same with Brendan at Reading. Both should have continued to play the way the players know and slowly integr8 new players and the playing style they wanted over time. Instead they tried to change it overnight.

[Schards#2]

LOL @ scouser interviewed on SSN:

"the trouble with Kenny was that, as they say, you should never go back"

Interviewer - so who do you want for the job?

"Rafa"

[Mike Hunt]

LOL @ scouser interviewed on SSN:

"the trouble with Kenny was that, as they say, you should never go back"

Interviewer - so who do you want for the job?

"Rafa"

wtf Are they all really that stupid?

[Victor Meldrew]

Didn't mean that in terms of putting Liverpool down m8 - just I think he'd prefer cosmopolitan London to Liverpool.

IMO though - it's a tough one for the Chelsea managerial role. I can't see how they can't give the job to Di Matteo IF Chelsea win tomorrow night. Morally it would be the right thing to do.

However, looking at the bigger picture and knowing Roman wants success as well as attractive football, then Pep Guardiola seems the only choice. Whether he's ready to come back into management so soon, who knows. But I'm pretty sure that's the man who Roman wants really........

But remember that Avram Grant got the sack after losing the European Cup by that one penalty kick.
My view is that Abramovich will still bring in somebody else regardless of the outcome tomorrow night unless he goes one more season with Di Matteo hoping to get one of the other big names when they become available at the end of next season such as Mourinho or Guardiola.
Will they need to finish in the top 4 next season to attract a stellar name or will the money be the biggest bait?

[Victor Meldrew]

Sorry lad I think you must have wandered on to the wrong website.
Take a look back at this and most other topics and you will see very little evidence of the "sensible discussion" that you desire.
This site is full of mainly senselless discussion and mild abuse posted by mainly childish people-hadn't you sussed that?

Do you not have the acumen to adjust, or are you merely conceding defeatand accepting you are just as bad as the worst on here?

I see you continue to persist with this derogatory style of address based on an assumption between yourself and I.

WARNING-sensible aspect coming up:-
As for your bold and rather arrogant stance on racism what about the edict of "innocent until proven guilty" which surely is of similar importance.
With Dalglish and T-shirtgate this was an example of that edict.
It may have been ill-judged but many employers stand by their man in the first instance (Cameron/Hunt in recent days).
Dalglish may have been wrong by continuing to stand by his man but that was the judgement of somebody with a poor PR mechanism at his club and whereas he (like a lot of people) regards Evra as a whingeing little toe-rag he probably should have eased back on his support for his player just as Fergie eventually did with the reprehensible Cantona and Chelsea seem to have done with Terry.
Personally I am still with Blatter that whatever is said on the pitch in the heat of battle stays on the pitch and ends with a handshake rather than "Sir,this boy said something horrible to me".
Then again I grew up in different times when there was no such obsession with all things racist beyond the countless other ills that affect our society and the coverage of the "offences" committed by Terry annd Suarez have IMHO had disproportionate coverage to the seriousness of those offences.

Sad times if this is the message that you teach the emerging generations who absorb your attitude to such issues

So your argument is 'its OK I'm not bothered about racism because back in the day our ethnics would just sit back and accept it so I don't think this situation is that bad'?


When I find myself siding with Blatter, I tend to look at my thought process and find out when I turned into a sexist misogynist cnut of a man.

There you go,you expect a reasonable discussion and then you throw in the "Blatter is an idiot therefore EVERYTHING he says is idiotic" premise.
Blatter's (and not just Blatter's) opinion is that whatever is said in the heat of a contest remains on the pitch-that has been the case in sport historically.
If Suarez had walked up to Evra in the street and made a racist comment that is unaccceptable.
The context of what he said was on a football pitch after Evra had kicked lumps out of Suarez and (what has often been missed) is that Evra had been booked for doing so.

If you are saintly enough never to have said anything nasty in similar circumstances I bow to your marvellous restraint and will hold you in great esteem.
My grouse is that both incidents have received disproportionate coverage and comment well out of sync with the severity of what actually happened.
I'm afraid you have exaggerated things by suggesting that my view is that affronted ethnics should say nothing-my view is that the likes of Ferdinand and Evra (who presumably are even more saintly than you) might care to consider whether they themselves have ever said anything untoward to another player on a football pitch and should cut some slack to their fellow professionals the careers of whom have been or probably will be affected by their telling tales.
Did you read what Glen Johnson wrote after the T-shirt business or Ian Wright at the same time?

Incidentally I didn't like the remarks of our own Jason Roberts when it was announced that Ferdinand had been left out of the squad and with the other nonsense that he spoke about on 606 about there not being enough black managers in English football-he is in danger of seeing himself as a kind of black power spokesman when in fact he should be looking for equality which is something that most of us want in our society.

Anyway it will be interesting to see who Liverpool eventually get as manager.
I have always liked Martinez from his Swansea days so if he gets it fine but I rather think the owners will go for a manager with European experience as Liverpool will be in Europe again next season and probably for many seasons to come.

One final thought for a Friday night I wonder why clubs like Spurs or Arsenal never get discussed on this site
whereas the top Northern clubs and Chelsea do.

[leon]

Incidentally I didn't like the remarks of our own Jason Roberts when it was announced that Ferdinand had been left out of the squad and with the other nonsense that he spoke about on 606 about there not being enough black managers in English football-he is in danger of seeing himself as a kind of black power spokesman when in fact he should be looking for equality which is something that most of us want in our society.

This bit speaks volumes about your views on the matter.

[Hoop Blah]

IMO though - it's a tough one for the Chelsea managerial role. I can't see how they can't give the job to Di Matteo IF Chelsea win tomorrow night. Morally it would be the right thing to do.

Well that'll happen then!!

I can see them not giving him the job. It seems pretty clear they wanted to move forward as a team/club and that's why AVB got the job in the first place. 'Robbie' seems to be getting results because he's pandering to the ego's of the senior players more. That's fine in the short term but it won't help evolve the squad or get Abromovich the style and entertainment he so obviously craves.

I can see him getting the job though, on the proviso that Pep is coming in after his little break.

[Man Friday]

Liverpool finish 8th and win a trophy for the first time in six years and Kenny gets the sack. WBA finish tenth with no trophy and Woy is lauded as The Messiah and given the Engaland job with much fanfare. Football is one big lunatic asylum.

[Man Friday]

More fool Woy.

Anyway I blame the director of football for the bad buys.

Having said that, it takes a while to form a team. It's not just about splashing the cash and expecting instant results.

Another season Dalglish would have had them in the top 5.

5 points difference. Woy was 4 points away from 15th place.

Let's see how the new Liverpool manager gets on and whether he can perform the miracles that the owners expect!!!

[TBM]

Anyway I blame the director of football for the bad buys.

For the price, yes, but the players must have been recommended by Dalglish