The Gylfi thread.

[mr_number]

I think artificially inflating the price of a player with an extra £1.25m prior to us finalising the TSI deal is a great idea.

It's not artificially inflating the price - Hoffenheim want £8.2million - Swansea offered half that and were derided. So we offer a bit more and see what happens. (Possibly a bidding war as I suggested). Sorry that you look a bit stupid now, just because you were eager to have a go at me.

[M Brook]

Sorry that you look a bit stupid now, just because you were eager to have a go at me.

RL - why can't you just play nicely with the other children for once? It really does get a little wearing. If you don't think you're up to it, have you ever thought of starting your own forum and not inviting anyone? Then you wouldn't have the inconvenience of other people having the audacity of disagreeing with you!

[Ian Royal]

I think artificially inflating the price of a player with an extra £1.25m prior to us finalising the TSI deal is a great idea.

It's not artificially inflating the price - Hoffenheim want £8.2million - Swansea offered half that and were derided. So we offer a bit more and see what happens. (Possibly a bidding war as I suggested). Sorry that you look a bit stupid now, just because you were eager to have a go at me.

TBH, there's a certain amount of sense in us starting a bidding war if we've got a good sell on clause. At the same time, if we do have a good sell on clause we can undercut other teams and still leave Hoffenheim with the same money.

It's obvious we don't think we'll get him. I have no doubt that people at the club are still in contact with him so we have a good idea of what he wants to do and what his options are. I'm sure we'd come in for him later on in the summer if Swansea look like they can't afford him and no big club materialises. But for now there's not a lot of point getting involved.

Especially if we think there's little chance of getting him... we'll be focussing on the other irons in our fire rather than crossing our fingers and praying.

[Royal Lady]

I think artificially inflating the price of a player with an extra £1.25m prior to us finalising the TSI deal is a great idea.

It's not artificially inflating the price - Hoffenheim want £8.2million - Swansea offered half that and were derided. So we offer a bit more and see what happens. (Possibly a bidding war as I suggested). Sorry that you look a bit stupid now, just because you were eager to have a go at me.

Excellent, so we offer an additional £1.25m now and then Swansea up their bid to £6.5m. Hoffenheim turn around and say "Brian, you can have him now for £7m". We're now sat there with an opportunity to buy a player we really want for £7m and neither JM or Anton will fund it until the takeover has taken place. We've now set a price for a player whereby a club who can afford him will take him before we've been in a position to be able to.

And just because Hoffenheim want £8.2m doesn't mean that's his market value so in turn offering an amount of money up front to make other people show their cards is unnecessarily inflating a price.

McD will know what money he has to work with, either with TSI's investment or without it - do you really think JM hasn't discussed the scenario that it might not come off? How much are we getting over the next few years for getting into the promised land? If we can't afford to offer £5.5 million for Gylfi then it's a bit And I wouldn't say £8.2 million is too much for him, personally, so us offering 1.25m over £4.2 mill offered by Swansea isn't inflating the price - it's making a more reasonable offer than Swansea did.

M Brook - who are you? And what's anything go to do with you btw.

[melonhead]

McD will know what money he has to work with, either with TSI's investment or without it - do you really think JM hasn't discussed the scenario that it might not come off? How much are we getting over the next few years for getting into the promised land? If we can't afford to offer £5.5 million for Gylfi then it's a bit And I wouldn't say £8.2 million is too much for him, personally, so us offering 1.25m over £4.2 mill offered by Swansea isn't inflating the price - it's making a more reasonable offer than Swansea did.

always so ready to spend other peoples money aintchya



the 90 million includes parachute payments we will never get as we will be cemented in the top league forever and ever remember!

[Royal Lady]

You know what RL, I would usually enter in to a longer discussion over the merits of waiting to see if you have money before spending it vs taking a calculated gamble and spending it anyway and further on the best way in which to approach the bidding - who knows we may both learn something. But, I happen to find you onerous at best so won't bother wasting too much time on the subject with you.

LOLz.

We have a 25% sell on clause for Gylfi - so whatever we offer we can take 25% off - I'm not going to bother arguing, because you know you jumped the gun with your comments. Someone offers a risible figure, we know the rough asking price, we offer less than asking price and more than Swansea and bear in mind the 25%. If Man Utd or someone come in and decide to snap him up for £15mill or something, good for them, but at least we would have tried. I cannot believe that we would not be able to bid up to £6 million. With or without TSI. And anyway, if, everyone bar a handful of us, are so convinced TSI deal is going through without any problems, what's the problem? TSI already loaned us the money for Roberts - they can loan us the money for Gylfi!

[Spirit of Elm Park]

I've not seen one post yet that highlights the fact that Professionals, whether it be business, or sport, continually strive to be the best they can be. Ambition is the massive driving force that sets them apart from the average Joe.

If RFC had the cash to make a bid for Gylfi, I fail to see why one of the brightest prospects in English (World?) football would decide that at this stage of his career we would be the best place for him to progress. Whether we can outbid Swansea or not will not be the deciding factor. FACT. More likely, it will come down to who can offer, and to what degree, European Football in the coming season.

Sorry to disappoint again...

[Friday's Legacy]

You know what RL, I would usually enter in to a longer discussion over the merits of waiting to see if you have money before spending it vs taking a calculated gamble and spending it anyway and further on the best way in which to approach the bidding - who knows we may both learn something. But, I happen to find you onerous at best so won't bother wasting too much time on the subject with you.

LOLz.

We have a 25% sell on clause for Gylfi - so whatever we offer we can take 25% off - I'm not going to bother arguing

I'm not sure what the percentage is, but if it is 25%, it's supposed to be 25% of profit on the original purchase price - not 25% of the whole fee.

[Royal With Cheese]

You know what RL, I would usually enter in to a longer discussion over the merits of waiting to see if you have money before spending it vs taking a calculated gamble and spending it anyway and further on the best way in which to approach the bidding - who knows we may both learn something. But, I happen to find you onerous at best so won't bother wasting too much time on the subject with you.

LOLz.

We have a 25% sell on clause for Gylfi - so whatever we offer we can take 25% off - I'm not going to bother arguing

I'm not sure what the percentage is, but if it is 25%, it's supposed to be 25% of profit on the original purchase price - not 25% of the whole fee.

That was my thought FL.

Also, am I the only one thinking 8.25 million (if that's correct) is an absolute FCUKING STEAL?

[Royal Lady]

No. No you're not. So quite why none of the bigger clubs appear to be in the running for him is beyond me. If he went to a big 4 club, I doubt he'd be more than a bench warmer at this stage, but if he came to us, with all of TSI's talk about wanting to get us into Europe etc, he knows he'd be an ever present - so I don't believe he would discount us completely.

[Cypry]

Also, am I the only one thinking 8.25 million (if that's correct) is an absolute FCUKING STEAL?

For Gylfi it's a bargain, and for a top four club it's not big budget, but some people really need to get a grip - TSI or no TSI, it is highly unlikely that we will blow our transfer record (4 x over) and spend some 10% of our total extra income from promotion (inc. parachute payments) on one players transfer fee (let alone wages)....Gylfi is not coming back, get over it....

[Norfolk Royal]

In my view it would be worth the outlay as anyone who gets him is guaranteed to stay in the Premier League.

[RobRoyal]

In my view it would be worth the outlay as anyone who gets him is guaranteed to stay in the Premier League.

If that's the case, how come a West Ham team with Joe Cole, Jermaine Defoe, Michael Carrick and Paulo Di Canio went down?

[melonhead]

In my view it would be worth the outlay as anyone who gets him is guaranteed to stay in the Premier League.

If that's the case, how come a West Ham team with Joe Cole, Jermaine Defoe, Michael Carrick and Paulo Di Canio went down?

is it because none of them are gylfi?

[JordCot]

In my view it would be worth the outlay as anyone who gets him is guaranteed to stay in the Premier League.

I don't understand this? Let's not forget Swansea were playing decent football before he joined and would probably have been safe regardless. If he had gone to Wolves he would probably have earned them a few more points but he isn't going to single-handedly save a team from relegation

[Pepe the Horseman]

Im not sure any player would single handedly save a team from relegation.

Was it Derby who were the worst ever team in the EPL? If they had Messi I think they'd have still gone down. Same as Wolves this season.

They had Giles Barnes - the black Messi.

[LeFondreforEngland]

Im not sure any player would single handedly save a team from relegation.

Was it Derby who were the worst ever team in the EPL? If they had Messi I think they'd have still gone down. Same as Wolves this season.

They had Giles Barnes - the black Messi.

[Norfolk Royal]

In my view it would be worth the outlay as anyone who gets him is guaranteed to stay in the Premier League.

I don't understand this? Let's not forget Swansea were playing decent football before he joined and would probably have been safe regardless. If he had gone to Wolves he would probably have earned them a few more points but he isn't going to single-handedly save a team from relegation

A team with a player like Gylfi scoring goals from midfield would stay up imo, unless the rest of the players were ten year olds.

[JordCot]

In my view it would be worth the outlay as anyone who gets him is guaranteed to stay in the Premier League.

I don't understand this? Let's not forget Swansea were playing decent football before he joined and would probably have been safe regardless. If he had gone to Wolves he would probably have earned them a few more points but he isn't going to single-handedly save a team from relegation

A team with a player like Gylfi scoring goals from midfield would stay up imo, unless the rest of the players were ten year olds.

I just feel he is more suited as player to a team playing well i.e. a top of the table team, as he is somewhat of a luxury player, not as much as someone like taarabt or anything like that because obviously he works hard but IMO he is the sort of player to take to team to the next level rather than save them in a relegation battle. We can dream of top half and we may well achieve that but it is not our aim and therefore, for me, he is not the player we should be getting

[Norfolk Royal]

Luxury player, hmmmm.

I'd love to luxuriate in watching him score goals for us.