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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by Libertine » 30 Jun 2012 15:50

I'm not that worried about the wedding reception craziness. Emotions were high, and I am sure the drinks were flowing, as the saying goes...sometimes shit happens.

I don't see anything in his past where he has been in trouble with the law off the pitch so I think any hand wringing about his wedding is much ado about nothing, a temptest in a teapot.

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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by winchester_royal » 30 Jun 2012 16:07

Libertine I'm not that worried about the wedding reception craziness. Emotions were high, and I am sure the drinks were flowing, as the saying goes...sometimes shit happens.

I don't see anything in his past where he has been in trouble with the law off the pitch so I think any hand wringing about his wedding is much ado about nothing, a temptest in a teapot.

American in being spot on shocker :shock: :)

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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by Ian Royal » 30 Jun 2012 16:24

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Libertine I'm not that worried about the wedding reception craziness. Emotions were high, and I am sure the drinks were flowing, as the saying goes...sometimes shit happens.

I don't see anything in his past where he has been in trouble with the law off the pitch so I think any hand wringing about his wedding is much ado about nothing, a temptest in a teapot.

American in being spot on shocker :shock: :)


Agree, I know if some scroats from the arse end of one of the families started causing grief at my wedding I'd be tempted to kick off, so in the absence of other bad boy acts, I think we can happily write that off as a one off we don't need to worry about.

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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by Agent Balti » 30 Jun 2012 16:31

Quite a glowing reference here from http://www.blogonthetyne.co.uk/2012/06/danny-guthrie-leaves-newcastle.html?

It wasn't much of a surprise to see plenty of well wishers for Danny Guthrie after his move to Reading.

The midfielder never really let anybody down during his time at St James' Park, and while many feel that his move to the newly promoted Royals is a step down, it is clear that at 25 he needed regular if not guaranteed (if there is such a thing) first team football.

Guthrie was never going to get past Yohan Cabaye and Cheick Tiote next season and even the lure of the Europa League and the chance to play games as part of squad rotation wasn't enough for the Shropshire-born engine roomer.

Guthrie is a gifted midfielder who is more than capable of both providing goals and chipping in on the scoresheet himself from time to time.

He arrived as a Kevin Keegan signing in 2008, with the former Toon boss trumpeting the player's name after his impressive debut at Manchester United in the 1-1 draw.

Guthrie arrived at United during a bitter political battle between Keegan and controversial transfer chief Dennis Wise.

But the former Liverpool youngster was very much one of KK's signings.

However, there was never going to be much of a chance of Keegan and Guthrie building up any rapport with problems unfolding above them in the boardroom - and within weeks of signing for the man fans once dubbed the Messiah, the Shrewsbury-born player was facing up to life under a succession of managers.

Guthrie was certainly one of the more introvert players to have appeared for Newcastle.

If anything he was too quiet - and this perhaps cost him first team chances on occasion during his stay.

Yet he always came across as a decent lad.

After away games he would go and meet his parents to have a quick chat next to the team bus, but then still find time to sign hundreds of autographs for the fans waiting in the cold to greet Toon players.

Guthrie was always the type of player that was prepared to come out with an explanation for the fans after defeats - something you can never take for granted while covering Newcastle United!

In one of the last interviews I did with Guthrie he joked about the amount of managers he'd played under.

Keegan, Chris Hughton, Joe Kinnear, Alan Shearer, Hughton again and then Alan Pardew all in just four years.

Credit to him for sticking with the club after relegation, he could have quit and did get offers to go elsewhere.

But he stayed on to help the club get promotion and made 43 appearances in the Championship, looking impressive in midfield and scoring some important goals along the way.

Yet in the last two seasons Guthrie made just 34 appearances and couldn't find a way past people like Kevin Nolan, Cheick Tiote and Yohan Cabaye.

For the first time during his stint on Tyneside it was after Tiote returned from the African Cup of Nations and Cabaye re-emerged from injury, that Guthrie stated he was "unhappy" at being made the fall guy after their return.

It was by that time that Guthrie's contract talks appeared to have gone down the pan and with Aston Villa in prime position to take him until Alex McLeish's sacking - the writing was on the wall for the one-time Manchester United kid.

And even though he came back into the team for a short stint during the run-in and claimed that Alan Pardew could play himself, Cabaye and Tiote in a 4-3-3 formation and still succeed, there still seemed an air of resignation in the air come the end of the season.

Sadly though despite being offered a deal, Danny moved on but he leaves Newcastle with credit.

He helped the club back on to its feet and then helped them into Europe once again.

Therefore, it appears that the order of the day has to be, Guthrie never let anybody down at SJP.

And unlike some former players who have been back on Tyneside a good reception will await Guthrie when he returns next January.

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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by Libertine » 30 Jun 2012 16:47

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Libertine I'm not that worried about the wedding reception craziness. Emotions were high, and I am sure the drinks were flowing, as the saying goes...sometimes shit happens.

I don't see anything in his past where he has been in trouble with the law off the pitch so I think any hand wringing about his wedding is much ado about nothing, a temptest in a teapot.

American in being spot on shocker :shock: :)


Ta... 8)

This could be a signing where it didn't cause a "board meltdown" at the time but we might be looking back in a couple of years wondering why there wasn't a meltdown. He has all the skills to be an outstanding Premier League footballer. But circumstances, injuries and the managerial merry-go-rounds at the teams he has played for in the past, haven't allowed him the opportunity of first team football on a week in and week out basis and held him back from reaching his full potential. Right now he is joining a very stable team, with a good core of professionals who have been around the game longer than he has, and one I think he will fit into well, and good management...now the rest is up to him.


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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by Pepe the Horseman » 30 Jun 2012 16:51

Agent Balti Quite a glowing reference here from http://www.blogonthetyne.co.uk/2012/06/danny-guthrie-leaves-newcastle.html?

It wasn't much of a surprise to see plenty of well wishers for Danny Guthrie after his move to Reading.

The midfielder never really let anybody down during his time at St James' Park, and while many feel that his move to the newly promoted Royals is a step down, it is clear that at 25 he needed regular if not guaranteed (if there is such a thing) first team football.

Guthrie was never going to get past Yohan Cabaye and Cheick Tiote next season and even the lure of the Europa League and the chance to play games as part of squad rotation wasn't enough for the Shropshire-born engine roomer.

Guthrie is a gifted midfielder who is more than capable of both providing goals and chipping in on the scoresheet himself from time to time.

He arrived as a Kevin Keegan signing in 2008, with the former Toon boss trumpeting the player's name after his impressive debut at Manchester United in the 1-1 draw.

Guthrie arrived at United during a bitter political battle between Keegan and controversial transfer chief Dennis Wise.

But the former Liverpool youngster was very much one of KK's signings.

However, there was never going to be much of a chance of Keegan and Guthrie building up any rapport with problems unfolding above them in the boardroom - and within weeks of signing for the man fans once dubbed the Messiah, the Shrewsbury-born player was facing up to life under a succession of managers.

Guthrie was certainly one of the more introvert players to have appeared for Newcastle.

If anything he was too quiet - and this perhaps cost him first team chances on occasion during his stay.

Yet he always came across as a decent lad.

After away games he would go and meet his parents to have a quick chat next to the team bus, but then still find time to sign hundreds of autographs for the fans waiting in the cold to greet Toon players.

Guthrie was always the type of player that was prepared to come out with an explanation for the fans after defeats - something you can never take for granted while covering Newcastle United!

In one of the last interviews I did with Guthrie he joked about the amount of managers he'd played under.

Keegan, Chris Hughton, Joe Kinnear, Alan Shearer, Hughton again and then Alan Pardew all in just four years.

Credit to him for sticking with the club after relegation, he could have quit and did get offers to go elsewhere.

But he stayed on to help the club get promotion and made 43 appearances in the Championship, looking impressive in midfield and scoring some important goals along the way.

Yet in the last two seasons Guthrie made just 34 appearances and couldn't find a way past people like Kevin Nolan, Cheick Tiote and Yohan Cabaye.

For the first time during his stint on Tyneside it was after Tiote returned from the African Cup of Nations and Cabaye re-emerged from injury, that Guthrie stated he was "unhappy" at being made the fall guy after their return.

It was by that time that Guthrie's contract talks appeared to have gone down the pan and with Aston Villa in prime position to take him until Alex McLeish's sacking - the writing was on the wall for the one-time Manchester United kid.

And even though he came back into the team for a short stint during the run-in and claimed that Alan Pardew could play himself, Cabaye and Tiote in a 4-3-3 formation and still succeed, there still seemed an air of resignation in the air come the end of the season.

Sadly though despite being offered a deal, Danny moved on but he leaves Newcastle with credit.

He helped the club back on to its feet and then helped them into Europe once again.

Therefore, it appears that the order of the day has to be, Guthrie never let anybody down at SJP.

And unlike some former players who have been back on Tyneside a good reception will await Guthrie when he returns next January.


Great write up, even if it does read a little bit like he's just died

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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by Royal Ginger » 30 Jun 2012 16:55

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Libertine I'm not that worried about the wedding reception craziness. Emotions were high, and I am sure the drinks were flowing, as the saying goes...sometimes shit happens.

I don't see anything in his past where he has been in trouble with the law off the pitch so I think any hand wringing about his wedding is much ado about nothing, a temptest in a teapot.

American in being spot on shocker :shock: :)


Ta... 8)

This could be a signing where it didn't cause a "board meltdown" at the time but we might be looking back in a couple of years wondering why there wasn't a meltdown. He has all the skills to be an outstanding Premier League footballer. But circumstances, injuries and the managerial merry-go-rounds at the teams he has played for in the past, haven't allowed him the opportunity of first team football on a week in and week out basis and held him back from reaching his full potential. Right now he is joing a very stable team, with a good core of professionals who have been around the game longer than he has, and one I think he will fit into well, and good management...now the rest is up to him.


Got to be a bit concerned that he isn't necessarily going to get a constant 1st team spot unless there's an injury; however a rotation between the three of them, including 70 min subs, could be possible. I don't see how he could have been promised better than 2 3rds of games. I for one am happy with the move. The one thing we can be sure about is that this signing is bad news for Jay Tabb.

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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by Royal Biscuitman » 30 Jun 2012 16:57

I don't know if it's been mentioned, but Danny Guthrie made his professional debut as a youngster at Liverpool in a cup tie against Reading.

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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by winchester_royal » 30 Jun 2012 17:21

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Libertine I'm not that worried about the wedding reception craziness. Emotions were high, and I am sure the drinks were flowing, as the saying goes...sometimes shit happens.

I don't see anything in his past where he has been in trouble with the law off the pitch so I think any hand wringing about his wedding is much ado about nothing, a temptest in a teapot.

American in being spot on shocker :shock: :)


Ta... 8)

This could be a signing where it didn't cause a "board meltdown" at the time but we might be looking back in a couple of years wondering why there wasn't a meltdown. He has all the skills to be an outstanding Premier League footballer. But circumstances, injuries and the managerial merry-go-rounds at the teams he has played for in the past, haven't allowed him the opportunity of first team football on a week in and week out basis and held him back from reaching his full potential. Right now he is joining a very stable team, with a good core of professionals who have been around the game longer than he has, and one I think he will fit into well, and good management...now the rest is up to him.

Totally agree, it's difficult to think of a better central midfielder that we realistically could have signed.

Oh, and how nice/surreal is it to hear an established premier league player calling the decision to move to Reading a 'no brainer'..


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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by RockheadRumple » 30 Jun 2012 17:39

Anyone else noticed it isn't on getReading yet? Johnny, Johnny, Johnny...

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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by DOYLERSAROYALER » 30 Jun 2012 17:59

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This could be a signing where it didn't cause a "board meltdown" at the time but we might be looking back in a couple of years wondering why there wasn't a meltdown. He has all the skills to be an outstanding Premier League footballer. But circumstances, injuries and the managerial merry-go-rounds at the teams he has played for in the past, haven't allowed him the opportunity of first team football on a week in and week out basis and held him back from reaching his full potential. Right now he is joining a very stable team, with a good core of professionals who have been around the game longer than he has, and one I think he will fit into well, and good management...now the rest is up to him.


Agree Libertine...I know Pog is signing and others are rumour abound...but this could be the shrewdest signing Reading make this summer

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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by Ups and Downs » 30 Jun 2012 18:40

Having turned down a contract offer from NUFC so that he can play more football, this chap definitely fits the young and hungry mould. Putting jokes about his wedding reception aside, he seems like a good, solid player and I remember him playing very well in the season Newcastle spent in the Championship.

But who will make room for him? After leaving Newcastle because of limited opportunities, would he have signed for us without reassurances of being a starter? Or perhaps he saw who we had and thought that he could do better and once in the team would stay in it. Barring injury Im sure he will start as many games as anyone else in midfield next year.

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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by Wimb » 30 Jun 2012 20:08

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Wimb Well it's a bit extreme I'll give you that ;) but my point was that it's hardly Guthrie's fault that it descended into total chaos. It seems he did play a part but it takes more than 1 man for that sort of anarchy ;)

As for current bad boys, there's nothing on that scale but one of midfielders was embroiled in a spot of bother last summer and made a swift disappearance from Twitter if I remember rightly. Not to mention Manset who was done for Drink driving. I think we've generally got a very good bunch but it would be naive to think they're all angels



story was in the mail wasn't it? :roll:

other than that what are we going on to say he is a "bad boy"


I'm not going on anything, that was my point in that it seems harsh to judge him on one incident of which he had limited impact. However even if he isn't squeaky clean it doesn't mean he's not a decent bloke/player.


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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by RobRoyal » 30 Jun 2012 20:13

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Agree, I know if some scroats from the arse end of one of the families started causing grief at my wedding I'd be tempted to kick off, so in the absence of other bad boy acts, I think we can happily write that off as a one off we don't need to worry about.


Really :|

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C_YyMKzTXU&sns=em

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008 ... astleunite

Obviously a talented player - i hope that this really was 'out of character' because one of the things I like about Reading FC is that we don't buy pcunts.

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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by Ian Royal » 30 Jun 2012 22:14

So a terrible tackle and a link that doesn't seem to work. Hardly a shooting youth team players with an air rifle, putting a cigar out in a team mate's face, knocking out a team mate, getting nicked for drink driving, getting arrested for assault type of bad boy act.

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by pea » 30 Jun 2012 22:17

lol at Guthrie being a 'bad boy'

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by Millsy » 01 Jul 2012 00:30

Agent Balti Quite a glowing reference here from http://www.blogonthetyne.co.uk/2012/06/danny-guthrie-leaves-newcastle.html?

It wasn't much of a surprise to see plenty of well wishers for Danny Guthrie after his move to Reading.

The midfielder never really let anybody down during his time at St James' Park, and while many feel that his move to the newly promoted Royals is a step down, it is clear that at 25 he needed regular if not guaranteed (if there is such a thing) first team football.

Guthrie was never going to get past Yohan Cabaye and Cheick Tiote next season and even the lure of the Europa League and the chance to play games as part of squad rotation wasn't enough for the Shropshire-born engine roomer.

Guthrie is a gifted midfielder who is more than capable of both providing goals and chipping in on the scoresheet himself from time to time.

He arrived as a Kevin Keegan signing in 2008, with the former Toon boss trumpeting the player's name after his impressive debut at Manchester United in the 1-1 draw.

Guthrie arrived at United during a bitter political battle between Keegan and controversial transfer chief Dennis Wise.

But the former Liverpool youngster was very much one of KK's signings.

However, there was never going to be much of a chance of Keegan and Guthrie building up any rapport with problems unfolding above them in the boardroom - and within weeks of signing for the man fans once dubbed the Messiah, the Shrewsbury-born player was facing up to life under a succession of managers.

Guthrie was certainly one of the more introvert players to have appeared for Newcastle.

If anything he was too quiet - and this perhaps cost him first team chances on occasion during his stay.

Yet he always came across as a decent lad.

After away games he would go and meet his parents to have a quick chat next to the team bus, but then still find time to sign hundreds of autographs for the fans waiting in the cold to greet Toon players.

Guthrie was always the type of player that was prepared to come out with an explanation for the fans after defeats - something you can never take for granted while covering Newcastle United!

In one of the last interviews I did with Guthrie he joked about the amount of managers he'd played under.

Keegan, Chris Hughton, Joe Kinnear, Alan Shearer, Hughton again and then Alan Pardew all in just four years.

Credit to him for sticking with the club after relegation, he could have quit and did get offers to go elsewhere.

But he stayed on to help the club get promotion and made 43 appearances in the Championship, looking impressive in midfield and scoring some important goals along the way.

Yet in the last two seasons Guthrie made just 34 appearances and couldn't find a way past people like Kevin Nolan, Cheick Tiote and Yohan Cabaye.

For the first time during his stint on Tyneside it was after Tiote returned from the African Cup of Nations and Cabaye re-emerged from injury, that Guthrie stated he was "unhappy" at being made the fall guy after their return.

It was by that time that Guthrie's contract talks appeared to have gone down the pan and with Aston Villa in prime position to take him until Alex McLeish's sacking - the writing was on the wall for the one-time Manchester United kid.

And even though he came back into the team for a short stint during the run-in and claimed that Alan Pardew could play himself, Cabaye and Tiote in a 4-3-3 formation and still succeed, there still seemed an air of resignation in the air come the end of the season.

Sadly though despite being offered a deal, Danny moved on but he leaves Newcastle with credit.

He helped the club back on to its feet and then helped them into Europe once again.

Therefore, it appears that the order of the day has to be, Guthrie never let anybody down at SJP.

And unlike some former players who have been back on Tyneside a good reception will await Guthrie when he returns next January.


He certainly sounds a decent lad and oddly enough a footballer with a bit of loyalty. BM and JM go on about having the right players with the right attitude and I've little doubt he's a good guy after reading that, which is just what we want.

Re: his wedding. None of anyone's business. Leave the guy alone.

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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by RobRoyal » 01 Jul 2012 10:36

Ian Royal So a terrible tackle and a link that doesn't seem to work. Hardly a shooting youth team players with an air rifle, putting a cigar out in a team mate's face, knocking out a team mate, getting nicked for drink driving, getting arrested for assault type of bad boy act.


Sorry about the link - google it, my point was that he broke Fagan's leg.

That doesn't make him a bad boy but it's pretty shocking behaviour. It was a long time ago so hopefully he's grown up now.

I was just surpisd the incident wasn't being mentioned, because it was one of the only things I remembered about the guy when his name came up on ur&g.

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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by Wimb » 01 Jul 2012 10:56

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Ian Royal So a terrible tackle and a link that doesn't seem to work. Hardly a shooting youth team players with an air rifle, putting a cigar out in a team mate's face, knocking out a team mate, getting nicked for drink driving, getting arrested for assault type of bad boy act.


Sorry about the link - google it, my point was that he broke Fagan's leg.

That doesn't make him a bad boy but it's pretty shocking behaviour. It was a long time ago so hopefully he's grown up now.

I was just surpisd the incident wasn't being mentioned, because it was one of the only things I remembered about the guy when his name came up on ur&g.


Pffft, mentioned on TTE article with relevant video..

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Re: SIGNED - Danny Guthrie

by Blakey's Right Peg » 01 Jul 2012 12:13

I mentioned it on the previous page after seeing many a Hull fan still baying for his blood on twitter.

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