Fans' Forum

[Wimb]

As someone who has a business to run rather than spend all my time on here I apologise that I have not been replying to everyone who is slagging off STAR.

Yes it is run by volunteers (not amateurs but people who have lots of other things to do) and so things do not always happen as fast as they would if it were our job, but it is also successful at what it does. The fact that STAR members were trusted enough by Brian that he was happy to tell us more than anodyne press conferences (a special meaning to those who were there) is because of what we have done over the last 10 years. If that is ruined by one post on here (and that is entirely possible both with the team management and the club management not trusting us in future) then those of you complaining that we are seen to censor the forum will have even less information in the future. Enjoy

Oh get over yourselves!!! I'm sure that Brian didn't say anything last night which he wouldn't be happy saying in the public domain...

Have you ever been to a press conference before? Generally managers let stuff slip out that they shouldn't or phrase it in ways that might not be the best.

Generally, TV stations and papers won't publish that sort of stuff if asked because if they do, the manager won't speak to them again.

That's all that the STARLiason is saying. The information would have come out to all Reading Fans, but an unedited version by someone that was there might just include a few bits that Brian/The Club didn't want to come out like that. If that results in the club not putting players/the manager up for other forums than other people have missed out simply because some people couldn't wait a few hours for information that in the grand scheme of things wasn't that important.

[TBM]

As someone who has a business to run rather than spend all my time on here I apologise that I have not been replying to everyone who is slagging off STAR.

Yes it is run by volunteers (not amateurs but people who have lots of other things to do) and so things do not always happen as fast as they would if it were our job, but it is also successful at what it does. The fact that STAR members were trusted enough by Brian that he was happy to tell us more than anodyne press conferences (a special meaning to those who were there) is because of what we have done over the last 10 years. If that is ruined by one post on here (and that is entirely possible both with the team management and the club management not trusting us in future) then those of you complaining that we are seen to censor the forum will have even less information in the future. Enjoy

Oh piss off

Why call it a "fans forum" if us fans aren't allowed to know what was said

[HoneyRoastHoax]

As someone who has a business to run rather than spend all my time on here I apologise that I have not been replying to everyone who is slagging off STAR.

Yes it is run by volunteers (not amateurs but people who have lots of other things to do) and so things do not always happen as fast as they would if it were our job, but it is also successful at what it does. The fact that STAR members were trusted enough by Brian that he was happy to tell us more than anodyne press conferences (a special meaning to those who were there) is because of what we have done over the last 10 years. If that is ruined by one post on here (and that is entirely possible both with the team management and the club management not trusting us in future) then those of you complaining that we are seen to censor the forum will have even less information in the future. Enjoy

You sound like an jobsworth bus driver. Just FYI you're wrong in thinking you're so special to the club and Brian. Brian was at Google HQ about a month ago dishing all of the info to anyone who wanted to hear. So you aren't that fecking special.

[Croydon Royal]

So where can I find a summary about what was spoken about?

I live in another country, and was keen to attend, but work commitments and the cost of flights would not allow me to make it.

You'll get one when 'Reading Matters' is made available. But that's in about a month or so. When the 'sensitive' (and therefore interesting) information that we are close to signing a player in the next couple of days or that Jay Tabb will likely be in the squad of 25 will be of absolutely no use whatsoever.

[Pepe the Horseman]

By the sounds of it, the biggest revelation was that Alfie is gonna keep the number 9 shirt. OMG Shhhhhhhhh

[Turns8]

As someone who has a business to run rather than spend all my time on here I apologise that I have not been replying to everyone who is slagging off STAR.

Yes it is run by volunteers (not amateurs but people who have lots of other things to do) and so things do not always happen as fast as they would if it were our job, but it is also successful at what it does. The fact that STAR members were trusted enough by Brian that he was happy to tell us more than anodyne press conferences (a special meaning to those who were there) is because of what we have done over the last 10 years. If that is ruined by one post on here (and that is entirely possible both with the team management and the club management not trusting us in future) then those of you complaining that we are seen to censor the forum will have even less information in the future. Enjoy

Oh get over yourselves!!! I'm sure that Brian didn't say anything last night which he wouldn't be happy saying in the public domain...

Have you ever been to a press conference before? Generally managers let stuff slip out that they shouldn't or phrase it in ways that might not be the best.

Generally, TV stations and papers won't publish that sort of stuff if asked because if they do, the manager won't speak to them again.

That's all that the STARLiason is saying. The information would have come out to all Reading Fans, but an unedited version by someone that was there might just include a few bits that Brian/The Club didn't want to come out like that. If that results in the club not putting players/the manager up for other forums than other people have missed out simply because some people couldn't wait a few hours for information that in the grand scheme of things wasn't that important.

Having been lucky enough to see the original thread...I can quite happily say that nothing in it needed to be edited...and as for the comment that STAR hadn't had the time to post a summary...surely, the first rule should be to get in before anyone...so once again the organisation is shown in a rather amatuerish light..

Oh and yes I have been lucky enough to sit in on several press conferences FYI...

[bigmike]

By the sounds of it, the biggest revelation was that Alfie is gonna keep the number 9 shirt. OMG Shhhhhhhhh

Nah the final sentance was the best

"So as not to miss out, SJM put in an appearance, shook Brians hand, told us he was the best manager Reading have ever had, then left."

[leicsRoyal]

Cypry's post seem like an informative honest account of what he heard last night. There were no revelations that were going to shock anyone.

Can some from STAR pm me please with what revelations have caused this forum to be so secretive and I may gladly hand over my £10.
Did STAR have to pay to book the room at our clubs stadium and pay an appearance fee to our clubs manager last night?

[Pepe the Horseman]

By the sounds of it, the biggest revelation was that Alfie is gonna keep the number 9 shirt. OMG Shhhhhhhhh

Nah the final sentance was the best

"So as not to miss out, SJM put in an appearance, shook Brians hand, told us he was the best manager Reading have ever had, then left."

Spose best to keep that quiet, otherwise Steve Coppell might get upset.

[ZacNaloen]

Yet another thread where Starliasons shows himself/herself to be utterly unsuited to the role assigned

[The Rouge]

Yes it is run by volunteers (not amateurs)

Actions will determine that and ultimately people will decide.

The fact that STAR members were trusted enough by Brian that he was happy to tell us more than anodyne press conferences (a special meaning to those who were there) is because of what we have done over the last 10 years.

That is obviously a good thing, although it is not a barometer of good work, as a group that effectively represents supporters will not always be liked by the club management.

If that is ruined by one post on here (and that is entirely possible both with the team management and the club management not trusting us in future) then those of you complaining that we are seen to censor the forum will have even less information in the future. Enjoy.

- This comes across as babyish
- If it is so important to you why not inform new members of the rules in an effective way?

[Wimb]

In which case Turns you'll understand why exactly STAR and the club may not be 100% thrilled that it popped up on HobNob. I don't know, maybe they don't care but maybe they do?

How do you know what Brian did or didn't want to put on HobNob? I concur that I didn't see anything that seemed particularly damaging in Cypry's post but then who knows? presumably only the club's PR and Brian.

Perhaps the content should have been up quicker, but then was there anything that so desperately needed to be made known to the general fanbase? Having access to information as fast as possible is something that we're all used too but I don't think this was a case where getting the information as quickly as possible was something desperately needed by the fanbase at large?

If you were there last night I'm sure you'd agree with just how refreshing it was to see a Premier League manager so open, honest and relaxed with the fanbase. If he thinks that what he's said will appear online in a public forum in detail within 12 hours of saying it, then maybe he won't do it again and all we'll get is the same guarded snippits that you get across the mass media.

This isn't a case of jumping on someone for revealing something secret, it's just my own opinion that it would be desperately sad to be denied evenings like last night just because some people feel a devine right to have every bit of information for free, instantly, regardless of the wishes of those that organised the event or took part in it.

[Mike Hunt]

So where can I find a summary about what was spoken about?

I live in another country, and was keen to attend, but work commitments and the cost of flights would not allow me to make it.

Pay the £10 and you'll get a newsletter.

So much for Freedom of Speech.

Newsletter? Will that come before the window closes, or in October?

They should send an email out to all members a day or two after the fact. It can't be hard to write a summary up, Cypry managed to do it?

[leicsRoyal]

In which case Turns you'll understand why exactly STAR and the club may not be 100% thrilled that it popped up on HobNob. I don't know, maybe they don't care but maybe they do?

How do you know what Brian did or didn't want to put on HobNob? I concur that I didn't see anything that seemed particularly damaging in Cypry's post but then who knows? presumably only the club's PR and Brian.

Perhaps the content should have been up quicker, but then was there anything that so desperately needed to be made known to the general fanbase? Having access to information as fast as possible is something that we're all used too but I don't think this was a case where getting the information as quickly as possible was something desperately needed by the fanbase at large?

If you were there last night I'm sure you'd agree with just how refreshing it was to see a Premier League manager so open, honest and relaxed with the fanbase. If he thinks that what he's said will appear online in a public forum in detail within 12 hours of saying it, then maybe he won't do it again and all we'll get is the same guarded snippits that you get across the mass media.

This isn't a case of jumping on someone for revealing something secret, it's just my own opinion that it would be desperately sad to be denied evenings like last night just because some people feel a devine right to have every bit of information for free, instantly, regardless of the wishes of those that organised the event or took part in it.

Do you not think that today's world he would have expected it to appear on a public domain?

[winchester_royal]

So where can I find a summary about what was spoken about?

I live in another country, and was keen to attend, but work commitments and the cost of flights would not allow me to make it.

Pay the £10 and you'll get a newsletter.

So much for Freedom of Speech.

Newsletter? Will that come before the window closes, or in October?

They should send an email out to all members a day or two after the fact. It can't be hard to write a summary up, Cypry managed to do it?

Agreed, and if they offered a detailed summary of events like this then I'd be tempted to join as it's very difficult for me to get to any of them. This I'm sure applies to many posters on HNA, but they don't offer such a service, and as a result many are grateful to generous minded people like Cypry who are willing to share what they learned to those who have a very active interest in the club.

The fact that someone who is in the position of representing RFC fans opposes this frankly baffles me. It's not going to stop people joining STAR because obviously there is no substitute for being in the room listening to Brian.

[Royal_Belly]

The folk who run Star are the sort of people who stalk the players and management after the game and camp out by their cars just so that they can have a "conversation" with them... sad little individuals.

As said before - Brian or any other manager for that matter would not attend or answer any of the questions he was not comfortable with knowing that whatever he may say will have a slight chance of being leaked to the "public"

It is simply all about the £ - they need to buy and invest in this seasons clacker

[Silver Fox]

So has the Tilehurst End got exclusive interspaz rights then? Wimb seems awfully keen to get STAR's back

[Agent Balti]

Let's not fool ourselves folks, even what Brian tell us is a mere shadow of what really happens. He knows he's talking to adults, he knows how the media works and how people use modern day media. If he thought for one second that NOTHING he said in that forum would ever escape beyond those four walls, then he and STAR are just as guilty as poor Cypry.

He's not that daft or misinformed. If STAR wish to get all precious and take their ball away with veiled threats that the club may not offer such nuggets of gold in the future, then boo-hoo. It's not like any of that is actually worthy any newsworthy fodder, it's just a secret clubs chit-chat that wouldn't raise the pulse of any journo worth his salt.

[Croydon Royal]

Newsletter? Will that come before the window closes, or in October?

They should send an email out to all members a day or two after the fact. It can't be hard to write a summary up, Cypry managed to do it?

Agreed, and if they offered a detailed summary of events like this then I'd be tempted to join as it's very difficult for me to get to any of them. This I'm sure applies to many posters on HNA, but they don't offer such a service, and as a result many are grateful to generous minded people like Cypry who are willing to share what they learned to those who have a very active interest in the club.

The fact that someone who is in the position of representing RFC fans opposes this frankly baffles me. It's not going to stop people joining STAR because obviously there is no substitute for being in the room listening to Brian.

Exactly this.

[Turns8]

In which case Turns you'll understand why exactly STAR and the club may not be 100% thrilled that it popped up on HobNob. I don't know, maybe they don't care but maybe they do?

How do you know what Brian did or didn't want to put on HobNob? I concur that I didn't see anything that seemed particularly damaging in Cypry's post but then who knows? presumably only the club's PR and Brian.

Perhaps the content should have been up quicker, but then was there anything that so desperately needed to be made known to the general fanbase? Having access to information as fast as possible is something that we're all used too but I don't think this was a case where getting the information as quickly as possible was something desperately needed by the fanbase at large?

If you were there last night I'm sure you'd agree with just how refreshing it was to see a Premier League manager so open, honest and relaxed with the fanbase. If he thinks that what he's said will appear online in a public forum in detail within 12 hours of saying it, then maybe he won't do it again and all we'll get is the same guarded snippits that you get across the mass media.

This isn't a case of jumping on someone for revealing something secret, it's just my own opinion that it would be desperately sad to be denied evenings like last night just because some people feel a devine right to have every bit of information for free, instantly, regardless of the wishes of those that organised the event or took part in it.

I'm sure that even though he appeared open and honest, Brian wouldn't have said anything which had to 'remain within these four walls' no one knows who is actually in that room...ok so you don't allow the press in, but do you actually vet all those in attendance? No, didn't think so...