Racism in football (John Terry spin-off)

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Re: John Terry

by No Fixed Abode » 18 Jul 2012 17:23

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Maybe if more black players spent more time on coaching/studying football instead of harping on about racism, we'd have more successful black coaches/managers in the game....

Racism isn't an inherent problem in this Country. There will always be one or two who let the side down, but that's just life I'm afraid.

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Re: John Terry

by Extended-Phenotype » 18 Jul 2012 17:36

23% of coaching-course candidates are black, so it would seem the idea black players are missing out because they spend every waking minute, near death from exhaustion and starvation, talking about racism.

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Re: John Terry

by Mr Angry » 18 Jul 2012 17:40

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Racism isn't an inherent problem in this Country. There will always be one or two who let the side down, but that's just life I'm afraid.


I agree with this; Britain is actually a far more tolerant place than anyone who reads the Guardian or who watches the BBC would have you believe. If it wasn't, there would have been terrible revenge attackes on Muslims after 7/7.

Also, racism isn't only a "white on black" issue - I have witnessed afro-caribbean's being racist to asians, both Indian sub-continent and south east asian, and asians being racist to whites.

Just a thought though; this thread was about John Terry, and now it has changed to being about racism in football - can the mods close this thread down (and I can tell my Grand-children that I had a 34 pager!!) and maybe someone else start a new thread to discuss the important issue of racism in football??

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Re: John Terry

by Extended-Phenotype » 18 Jul 2012 17:41

"Isn't as bad" =/= "doesn't exist".

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Re: John Terry

by Ian Royal » 18 Jul 2012 18:11

Racism (and xenophobia which is linked) is still very definitely a problem in this country. It's just not a particularly overtly large impact problem. It's still there as an underlying issue, but mostly racists know to be careful expressing their views openly in public too much.

If it wasn't a problem, the Daily Mail and other papers wouldn't bang on about immigrants all the time. It would also be able to distinguish the difference between asylum seekers, immigrants and illegal immigrants.

If it wasn't a problem, I, in my very sheltered life, wouldn't have seen numerous examples of it. If it wasn't a problem, I wouldn't have had to have the misfortune of taking a call from someone who thought it was acceptable to say to me that "they should all go back to banana land" And that's just the most extreme of plenty of examples.


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Re: John Terry

by AthleticoSpizz » 18 Jul 2012 20:40

Great passion

Unfortunately, its a world-wide phenonemon Ian, and it has been for a very long time.

Its not exclusively British

(in my sheltered life) The worst kind of rascism that i have encountered is the intolerance of the "non British born non- whites" (living within the British Isles or not) of the other "non British born non-whites"....I guess it could be a caste thing?

Pick the bones out of that if you will.

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Re: John Terry

by Ian Royal » 18 Jul 2012 20:55

Intolerance and ignorance is rife in people everywhere. We're pretty good here comparatively. Doesn't mean it isn't still a problem.

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Re: John Terry

by Ian Royal » 18 Jul 2012 20:57

Ideal In my experience the socalled anti-racists are the worst kind.
People accuse me of being racist, but then the very same people are much worse in a much more cynical and evil way.
Once I was at the pub, and a bunch of leftists, socalled "PC anti-racists", who strive so hard to tell me that I am evil, decided to pick on a guy who was there with an attractive african woman.
These people shamelessly accused him of having a mailorder bride, asking how much he paid for her, "was it two cans of paraffin or three cans and a donkey?", and kept harping on, totally ruining his night out with his girl.
These people are worse racists than any other kind, yet they accuse normal folks of racism regularly.

So basically, what you're saying is Norweigans are scum?

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Re: John Terry

by AthleticoSpizz » 18 Jul 2012 20:59

Ian Royal Intolerance and ignorance is rife in people everywhere. We're pretty good here comparatively. Doesn't mean it isn't still a problem.
agreed....but (to me at least) it seems to be over-egged

The sack cloth and ashes thing has long since worn thin.


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Re: John Terry

by leon » 18 Jul 2012 23:30

Ideal In my experience the socalled anti-racists are the worst kind.
People accuse me of being racist, but then the very same people are much worse in a much more cynical and evil way.
Once I was at the pub, and a bunch of leftists, socalled "PC anti-racists", who strive so hard to tell me that I am evil, decided to pick on a guy who was there with an attractive african woman.
These people shamelessly accused him of having a mailorder bride, asking how much he paid for her, "was it two cans of paraffin or three cans and a donkey?", and kept harping on, totally ruining his night out with his girl.
These people are worse racists than any other kind, yet they accuse normal folks of racism regularly.


Are you sure this wasn't a cheese dream, Ideal?

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Re: John Terry

by frimmers3 » 19 Jul 2012 04:48

Ideal They also suggested that the woman was an escort and that he had rented her for the night.
This sort of racism seems to be OK according to leftists.

Why do leftists have such a big problem when men date black or asian women? Why are they insanely prejudiced towards those couples?
Why is it unacceptable for a white man to have a woman of a different race, according to the PC anti-racist knobjockeys?


you really are a twat of the very highest order.

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Re: John Terry

by southbank1871 » 19 Jul 2012 09:21

Ideal They also suggested that the woman was an escort and that he had rented her for the night.
This sort of racism seems to be OK according to leftists.

Why do leftists have such a big problem when men date black or asian women? Why are they insanely prejudiced towards those couples?
Why is it unacceptable for a white man to have a woman of a different race, according to the PC anti-racist knobjockeys?


Please note, someone who thinks interracial couples are wrong isn't anti-racist. I've never heard of leftists having any prejudice towards such couples, this is surely a far right stance?

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Re: John Terry

by Silver Fox » 19 Jul 2012 09:41

TBF Ideal's story didn't actually happen did it?


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Re: John Terry

by Wax Jacket » 19 Jul 2012 09:42

is Norway the most retarded place on earth or do we just get a particularly skewed view of it?

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Re: John Terry

by Extended-Phenotype » 19 Jul 2012 10:07

Ideal In my experience the socalled anti-racists are the worst kind.
People accuse me of being racist, but then the very same people are much worse in a much more cynical and evil way.
Once I was at the pub, and a bunch of leftists, socalled "PC anti-racists", who strive so hard to tell me that I am evil, decided to pick on a guy who was there with an attractive african woman.
These people shamelessly accused him of having a mailorder bride, asking how much he paid for her, "was it two cans of paraffin or three cans and a donkey?", and kept harping on, totally ruining his night out with his girl.
These people are worse racists than any other kind, yet they accuse normal folks of racism regularly.


That would make them racists, you bed-pissing idiot. F/ck, thinking and writing have had a messy divorce in your world haven't they?

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Re: John Terry

by Ian Royal » 19 Jul 2012 18:18

What exactly was it you'd done in this fantasy to be labelled racist by these people Ideal?

Is it just that you level of racism sickened even mainstream Norweigen racists?

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Re: John Terry

by frimmers3 » 19 Jul 2012 20:56

Ideal LOL, these are self-proclaimed left-wing "anti-racist" PC people, just like you and that other cockgobbler.



could someone not flatline this insipid twat?

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Re: John Terry

by leon » 25 Jul 2012 14:36

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Ideal LOL, these are self-proclaimed left-wing "anti-racist" PC people, just like you and that other cockgobbler.


could someone not flatline this insipid twat?


I think Ideal's a misunderstood comic genius

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Re: Racism in football (John Terry spin-off)

by TBM » 25 Jul 2012 14:51

Got myself a 4 pager without even starting the thread 8)


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Re: John Terry

by Franchise FC » 25 Jul 2012 15:58

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who are ya? The amount of black players has risen pretty dramatically over the last 20 years, so it's a no brainer that the amount of black coaches and managers will rise over the next 10-20 years. Increasing that number now just to please these idiots won't help anybody.

The issue of racism is going to take far longer to ease out of the game if kunts like John Barnes blame his shit coaching career on the fact that he is black rather than just a useless mongdiv


yeah this. I bet a black manager wins the Championship in the next 10 years (not saying the Prem as they're all foreign)


I think one already has - he got sacked before the end of the next season, and not for failing

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