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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Royal With Cheese » 06 Aug 2012 15:07

Jackson Corner I remember being outside Fratten Park after the 3-1 defeat in 06, some Pompey chav strolled buy and said "Your playing with the big boys now, get back to the fizzy league where you belong". Wonder where he is now?

Currently waving a £10 note at Tal Ben Haim I guess.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Royal Rother » 06 Aug 2012 15:18

It seems bizarre to suggest that the mass of fans of different clubs would react differently to any given situation they find themselves in.

Portsmouth FC have oxf*rd as fans. So do Reading, Yeovil, Chelsea, Bury etc. etc.

So I want Portsmouth to fold for the long term good of the game, not to spite all their fans - they will have almost exactly the same percentage of fair minded decent people in their numbers as every other club in the land.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Ian Royal » 06 Aug 2012 17:17

Royal Rother It seems bizarre to suggest that the mass of fans of different clubs would react differently to any given situation they find themselves in.

Portsmouth FC have oxf*rd as fans. So do Reading, Yeovil, Chelsea, Bury etc. etc.

So I want Portsmouth to fold for the long term good of the game, not to spite all their fans - they will have almost exactly the same percentage of fair minded decent people in their numbers as every other club in the land.

The fans argument is just bollocks anyway. The vast majority of genuinely dedicated Pompey fans would form the core support of a phoenix club and they'd have a hell of a lot more fun rising through non league lording their size over their opposition for the next few years than they would being shit in the lower leagues and in danger of going out of business for seasons still to come.

Don't watch the horse thrash around in agony on the ground whilst a vet tries to splint it's leg. Shoot the oxf*rd in the head and then start to train a foal.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by blindedbythelights » 06 Aug 2012 20:13

I dislike them as much as anyone but jeezy kimbo christ @ people still blaming them for our relegation

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Rax » 06 Aug 2012 23:30

blindedbythelights I dislike them as much as anyone but jeezy kimbo christ @ people still blaming them for our relegation


What blaming a performance so bad that it makes Mass Sarr look like Messi???

It was so obvious that they could not give a toss about that game it was embarrasing!


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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Ian Royal » 07 Aug 2012 00:13

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blindedbythelights I dislike them as much as anyone but jeezy kimbo christ @ people still blaming them for our relegation


What blaming a performance so bad that it makes Mass Sarr look like Messi???

It was so obvious that they could not give a toss about that game it was embarrasing!


Didn't they only lose 1-0, or am I misremembering and they shipped half a dozen goals?

Let it the oxf*rd go.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Stranded » 07 Aug 2012 07:02

Rax
blindedbythelights I dislike them as much as anyone but jeezy kimbo christ @ people still blaming them for our relegation


What blaming a performance so bad that it makes Mass Sarr look like Messi???

It was so obvious that they could not give a toss about that game it was embarrasing!


Yep, those defeats of ours at home to Bolton and Fulham were pretty appalling.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Avon Royal » 07 Aug 2012 07:32

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blindedbythelights I dislike them as much as anyone but jeezy kimbo christ @ people still blaming them for our relegation


What blaming a performance so bad that it makes Mass Sarr look like Messi???

It was so obvious that they could not give a toss about that game it was embarrasing!


Didn't they only lose 1-0, or am I misremembering and they shipped half a dozen goals?

Let it the oxf*rd go.


Obviously they weren't completely responsible for our relegation, they did however make it very clear that they weren't interested in contesting the Fulham game. Developments since mean that they wouldn't get away with it now.

Karma clearly thinks they have a debt to pay.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by soggy biscuit » 07 Aug 2012 08:11

WestCoast Life http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1126757?cc=5739#

Birch sets Portsmouth deadline
July 24, 2012

By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent

ESPN can reveal that Portsmouth administrator Trevor Birch has served notice on all players and staff that the club will shut down on August 10 unless high earners such as Kanu and Tal Ben Haim, owed a combined £6 million, accept compromise deals.


3 days to go


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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 07 Aug 2012 08:57

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WestCoast Life http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1126757?cc=5739#

Birch sets Portsmouth deadline
July 24, 2012

By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent

ESPN can reveal that Portsmouth administrator Trevor Birch has served notice on all players and staff that the club will shut down on August 10 unless high earners such as Kanu and Tal Ben Haim, owed a combined £6 million, accept compromise deals.


3 days to go


... until the inevitable announcement that Kanu and Ben Haim have both accepted deals and that Chanrai is now the owner once more. And within a week they'll be signing players with money that should have gone to the creditors, on contracts that will no doubt be way out kilter with their status.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by blindedbythelights » 07 Aug 2012 09:57

Stranded Yep, those defeats of ours at home to Bolton and Fulham were pretty appalling.



Indeed after a 38 game season including 12 dropped points against Fulham and Bolton to then blame it all on Portsmouth not turning up for the last game of the season a week ahead of the biggest fixture in their history is simply idiocy i cannot even fathom

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Tony Le Mesmer » 07 Aug 2012 10:19

Who Moved The Goalposts? ... until the inevitable announcement that Kanu and Ben Haim have both accepted deals and that Chanrai is now the owner once more. And within a week they'll be signing players with money that should have gone to the creditors, on contracts that will no doubt be way out kilter with their status.


Except the terms of their golden share will prevent them from doing that this time. I kind of half hope they survive. The restrictions placed on them will just lead to a slower and more painful death.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Geekins » 07 Aug 2012 12:05

IF Kits and TBH liquidate the club then i will buy them in Football manager and pay their wages until they want to retire! :mrgreen:


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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 07 Aug 2012 12:30

Geekins IF Kits and TBH liquidate the club then i will buy them in Football manager and pay their wages until they want to retire! :mrgreen:


I think Kitson has already agreed a deal. IIRC it's just Lawrence and TBH left on their books with Kanu close to a settlement of his demands.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 07 Aug 2012 12:32

Tony Le Mesmer
Who Moved The Goalposts? ... until the inevitable announcement that Kanu and Ben Haim have both accepted deals and that Chanrai is now the owner once more. And within a week they'll be signing players with money that should have gone to the creditors, on contracts that will no doubt be way out kilter with their status.


Except the terms of their golden share will prevent them from doing that this time. I kind of half hope they survive. The restrictions placed on them will just lead to a slower and more painful death.


I hear where you're coming from. My point was based on the fact that any money they spend - even if it's a few hundred grand - will be obscene given the endless trail of devastation that club has left in its wake.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Stranded » 07 Aug 2012 12:38

TBH has released a statement today blaming the administrators for this mess. Claims he has agreed to forego £1.5m but they want him to give up £1.8m whilst still taking their full payment. If he does not agree they will liquidate.

Looks like Lawerence may have struck a deal to remain at the club on greatly reduced wages.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Ian Royal » 07 Aug 2012 18:03

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3 days to go


... until the inevitable announcement that Kanu and Ben Haim have both accepted deals and that Chanrai is now the owner once more. And within a week they'll be signing players with money that should have gone to the creditors, on contracts that will no doubt be way out kilter with their status.

The real thing to watch out for is when Chanrai mugs the next sap he sells the club to just before it goes into Administration again.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Badger Finger » 08 Aug 2012 22:32

What time on Friday do we get to chuckle away then?

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by TFF » 08 Aug 2012 22:54

An FAQ from the supporters' trust:

http://www.pompeytrust.com/index.php?op ... o-category

What does the business plan look like? When do you expect a return to profit?

In general terms, the financial forecast predicts a loss of £1.8m in 12-13, a profit of £4.5m in 13-14 and a profit of £0.2m in 14-15. The PST aim is to run the club on a self-sustaining basis, but the PST will always want to explore the possibility of other investment sources, which would enable PFC to progress. The opportunity to improve merchandise sales, catering and banqueting and advertising may well bring incremental profit opportunities to the club.


I guess that is based on promotion in year one because a £4.5m profit in League One would be ridiculous...

Trevor Birch has reached settlement terms with most of the players. Do you know what those settlement conditions are and can the Trust afford the settlement terms Mr Birch has promised the players?

The specific financial details of the player settlements agreed by Trevor Birch have not been made public. The PST is monitoring this situation in relation to the viability of its bid.


Wages being the biggest cost of a football club, and the PST have no idea what the potential wage bill is.

I almost want them to survive the week to watch it all happen again.

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