by ZacNaloen » 05 Sep 2012 16:26
by The Rouge » 05 Sep 2012 16:28
Alexander LitvinenkoThe Rouge I had actually assumed that it was more democratic than it was. I would like my views represented, and the views of the thousands currently unrepresented (my view) at present, but I don't have the option of running for board.
Indeed, I assume most people don't. But STAR needs a broader mix of board members from somewhere, and that can only really come from increasing/widening the membership. And that needs people to join.
by Alexander Litvinenko » 05 Sep 2012 16:37
ZacNaloen I have a suggestion for cutting costs.
It has something to do with member cards being something Only geeks care about.
by The Rouge » 05 Sep 2012 16:39
by Alexander Litvinenko » 05 Sep 2012 16:42
The Rouge I don't think £10 is too much to ask for. But I also think understanding and representing your views isn't too much to ask for either.
by The Rouge » 05 Sep 2012 16:55
by Alexander Litvinenko » 05 Sep 2012 16:58
by adief » 05 Sep 2012 17:02
by Green » 05 Sep 2012 17:14
by Alexander Litvinenko » 05 Sep 2012 17:17
adief STAR - complete and utter waste of time other than for those who enjoy the false feeling of being closer to the club than any of us ever will/can be. Useful only for arranging away game coaches. Does anyone seriously think that the club takes a blind bit of notice of what STAR has to say - read the minutes of meetings with the club for the answer to that question......anodyne/inconsequential/shallow - take your pick. The fans' experience at games is regulated to death so the only issues that have even a faint chance of a hearing are the price of beer and pies and that is hardly a subject for a full blown meeting with minutes and all.
FFS we all go to have a few beers and a dodgy burger before the game, slam the ref and whoever isn't flavour of the month, give the finger to the opposition fans when we score and enjoy the good times and bad in equal measure cos it's what we do on a Saturday. It's just football......nothing more!
by adief » 05 Sep 2012 17:23
by The Rouge » 05 Sep 2012 17:32
Alexander Litvinenko So how come you won't join because they're unrepresentative? Do they need to start representing you before you'll join? And if that's the case, why would you then need to cough up a tenner?
by Alexander Litvinenko » 05 Sep 2012 17:36
The RougeAlexander Litvinenko So how come you won't join because they're unrepresentative? Do they need to start representing you before you'll join? And if that's the case, why would you then need to cough up a tenner?
There needs to be a faint promise of representation yes. I am scared otherwise membership will seem like:
- endorsement of current activity
- completely pointless
by The Rouge » 05 Sep 2012 17:48
Alexander LitvinenkoThe RougeAlexander Litvinenko So how come you won't join because they're unrepresentative? Do they need to start representing you before you'll join? And if that's the case, why would you then need to cough up a tenner?
There needs to be a faint promise of representation yes. I am scared otherwise membership will seem like:
- endorsement of current activity
- completely pointless
Very defeatist attitude IMHO.
Join and do nothing then it might be like that ... that's down to you, but at least then you'll have the right to protest and be listened to.
by Ian Royal » 05 Sep 2012 18:00
ZacNaloen About the numbers Dirk, arent you assuming all star members are as active as hobnobs top members? We've already heard stories of members signing up paying their fee and hearing nothing from star. I really would not be shocked to find that this rings true form a large number of the membership.
by Royal Lady » 05 Sep 2012 18:07
by Ian Royal » 05 Sep 2012 19:29
by winchester_royal » 05 Sep 2012 21:17
starliaison I am sure a lot on here will not sympathise but it is the posts such as many on this thread that is the reason the rest of the STAR Board are not willing to post on here. There are not enough masochists on the Board to take on the constant abuse and negativity here.
There will be efforts to communicate elsewhere in the RFC universe but not here.
by adief » 05 Sep 2012 21:59
Royal Lady Have to say, I agree with Ian. Say me and Rouge paid our tenners and joined - then what? One or both of us put our names forward to be co-opted onto the board? Who's going to vote for us? There will be people within STAR who know who we are from what we say on here etc - are you seriously suggesting they won't mention this fact to some of their mates in STAR? I may be doing them a great dis-service, but if I was a member of a group and we'd been doing things the same old way for years and no-one within that group ever challenged it - I'd be mighty suspicious of some new person coming in and potentially wanting to change things - so I wouldn't vote them onto the board and, even if they got onto the board, I wouldn't agree with what they want to change, because it's "worked ok so far". If someone could categorically tell me that this wouldn't happen - I'd join STAR. No question.
by Alexander Litvinenko » 05 Sep 2012 22:08
Ian Royal Good point, even if by some miracle someone does get a group together that joins STAR with enough voting power to get someone onto the board, either to replace one person or a new post... how many are on the board? It's still only one voice amongst half a dozen decision makers.
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