How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

[RoyalBlue]

I also thought Morrisson was decent

Me too. I said to my daughter that I feel he will eventually join a much bigger and better club than RFC.

[who are ya?]

I also thought Morrisson was decent

Me too. I said to my daughter that I feel he will eventually join a much bigger and better club than RFC.

West Brom it is then

[Readingfanman]

I'm surprised how many people thought Morisson played well. Lest we not forget he was part of a defence which conceded 7. In fact, I'm not sure I can think of a game in which he's played for Reading where we've kept a clean sheet.

[SPARTA]

Rumour is, and shoot me down all you like, that Brian is going. I think it's a real shame but I have to agree it's the right thing to do to give us the best possible chance of staying up. Fresh ideas, new training regime perhaps, a manager who can handle egos better. Who knows. But it's a shame, as Brian is one of the nicest guys you'll find in this money hungry game.

[Royal Lady]

I'll probably shed a tear if/when he goes tbh. IF, and it's a big IF, he does go - I hope the majority of people on here will wish him well and we're not subjected to tirades of abuse about him. Thanks in advance, in case it happens, which I hope it doesn't.

[mr_number]

Rumour is

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[Lacoste]

The only way the debate will end is if MCD or TSI come out and say that we didn't have much in the way of funding available.

If thats the case he's doing an ok job, if it's not the case and we had a lot more available to spend them MCD should fall on his sword IMO. If TSI and Madejski care about MCD and dont want him to get the stick he's getting then they should come out and tell the truth if there wasn't much funding. We can all then rally around MCD and make the best of a bad situation.

[Royal Lady]

I just don't understand how, if you had more money available, you'd think "no, it's ok thanks, I'll stick with players like Tabb and Bryn in midfield rather than get in more cover" etc. It just doesn't make sense to me.

[RoyalBlue]

The only way the debate will end is if MCD or TSI come out and say that we didn't have much in the way of funding available.

If thats the case he's doing an ok job, if it's not the case and we had a lot more available to spend them MCD should fall on his sword IMO. If TSI and Madejski care about MCD and dont want him to get the stick he's getting then they should come out and tell the truth if there wasn't much funding. We can all then rally around MCD and make the best of a bad situation.

Fully agree. That is the very least that McDermott deserves. However, it will ean Madejski and TSI stepping into the firing line and are they man enough to do that?

[SPARTA]

I just don't understand how, if you had more money available, you'd think "no, it's ok thanks, I'll stick with players like Tabb and Bryn in midfield rather than get in more cover" etc. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Coppell did the exact same thing, albeit with less money available.

[Lacoste]

The only way the debate will end is if MCD or TSI come out and say that we didn't have much in the way of funding available.

If thats the case he's doing an ok job, if it's not the case and we had a lot more available to spend them MCD should fall on his sword IMO. If TSI and Madejski care about MCD and dont want him to get the stick he's getting then they should come out and tell the truth if there wasn't much funding. We can all then rally around MCD and make the best of a bad situation.

Fully agree. That is the very least that McDermott deserves. However, it will ean Madejski and TSI stepping into the firing line and are they man enough to do that?

I agree, It will make all of this 'dream ticket' bollox that Madejski has been spouting a bit of a joke if they do come out and say that no more funding was available.

If I was MCD I would just say that he did the best with the funding he had and no more was available if thats the case. Saves his arse and puts pressure on the board.

[Pepe the Horseman]

I'm surprised how many people thought Morisson played well. Lest we not forget he was part of a defence which conceded 7. In fact, I'm not sure I can think of a game in which he's played for Reading where we've kept a clean sheet.

Lol, he's only started two games hasn't he?

[royal67]

I'm surprised how many people thought Morisson played well. Lest we not forget he was part of a defence which conceded 7. In fact, I'm not sure I can think of a game in which he's played for Reading where we've kept a clean sheet.

He was the better of the two centre backs that we had playing last night.......

[windermere_royal]

I'm surprised how many people thought Morisson played well. Lest we not forget he was part of a defence which conceded 7. In fact, I'm not sure I can think of a game in which he's played for Reading where we've kept a clean sheet.

He was the better of the two centre backs that we had playing last night.......

is that supposed to be a compliment?

[Extended-Phenotype]

I just don't understand how, if you had more money available, you'd think "no, it's ok thanks, I'll stick with players like Tabb and Bryn in midfield rather than get in more cover" etc. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Because (rightly or wrongly) he is a manager who is about ‘the team’, and giving those that got us to the top flight ‘a chance to prove themselves’ because Reading got where they are by playing as a unit and aren’t about ‘individuals’.

The argument goes that bringing in too many ‘disrupts the team’ and 11 fab individuals running around on the pitch are no match for 11 members of a team.

Make a few astute additions, strengthen what we had, and make a gradual evolution while staying up – that was the plan.

Trouble is our ‘astute additions’ are lucky to make the f/cking bench and watch 4 year championship cameo Jay f/cking Tabb running out of steam on Premier League pitches.

[Lacoste]

One thing I hope never happens with Brian if the worst comes to the worst are the MCD Out chants from the stands.

He has earnt the right not to have to go through that.

[melonhead]

Had a long drive this morning and a chance to collect my thoughts after last nights atrocity. IMHO, the situation is..

- Currently Brian isn't good enough/experienced enough to be a Premier League manager
- The squad isn't good enough to stay up
- Among the reasons the squad isn't good enough are Brian's dealings in the summer and his decisions to weaken the squad further by excluding members from it

Having said that...

- There have been times when Brian has looked cluless at Championship level, but found a solution and prevailed
- Had we lost in the play-offs last year and were currently 4th or 5th in the Championship, no one would be calling for Brian's head so it seems harsh to penalise his over achievement
- Could another manager succeed with this squad? I would say no.

The club owes a huge debt of gratitude to Brian, he took over when we were in a world of shit and has performed miracles on a shoestring. I really like the guy and it pains me to see him looking and sounding as shattered as he did last night. I really would love him to turn it around starting Sunday but think it's highly unlikely.

It comes down to this, if TSI is intent on staying in the prem are are going to throw money at it in January, then, with a heavy heart,I think Brian will have to go as since the summer has transfer moves and the handling of big transfer egos suggest he isn't the man for that job. If they aren't going to throw money at it, then he should stay unless it becomes apparent he has totally lost the dressing room. I think we would go down but I think we would under any manager and Brian deserves the support of the fans and the board in making the best of this season, seeing it as a learning curve and preparing for the longer term of trying to get back up better equipped.

I would love it, love it he could get that squad mentality back, and get the fans behind him and the boys with a heroic result on Sunday.

agree with much of your post

but i disagree about the transfer dealings.
TSI always said they difference would be that where JM had no money, and had to sell, they would have "some" money, and wouldnt need to sell, plus be able to supplement the squad when needed.
we saw that with 10 million outlay this summer- more than ive ever seen before at this club-but still probably not enough at this level
looking at what we did do-
shorey- all round big improvement on harte, and looks very solid/good on the ball/good set pieces
pog- scores goals, works hard, good with ball to feet, supplements nhunt and roberts and alf to make a half decent pool of four strikers-gives us options
Mcleary- everyone raved about him for the first few matches, dipped a little, but is looking good again now-looks as good as/different to kebe
guthrie- everyone raved about him after first few games,definitely the passing influence we need in the middle, and if we are to play 4-5-1 away from home, but has had a tiff with brian after some below par performances, where perhaps we didnt play to his strengths(not sure hes good enough to rebuild a side around as he seems to want)
gunter- good experienced full back- good for cummings to learn from and as back up/competiton
mariappa- good CB- strong, quick and experienced

he strengthened all the areas that needed strengthening, with good, young championship players, and added a little prem experience.
given that it was the percieved wisom after norwich and swansea lst year that the way to stay up and propser is to keep doing what you were doing, but add a little here and there with hungry/championship palyers, it seems a little odd to criticise him for going along that route- especuially given that AZ wasnt likely to invest 60 million in building a whole new team in one summer.

[melonhead]

:cry: I'll probably shed a tear if/when he goes tbh. IF, and it's a big IF, he does go - I hope the majority of people on here will wish him well and we're not subjected to tirades of abuse about him. Thanks in advance, in case it happens, which I hope it doesn't.

^^this

candle lit vigil of mourning at the carpark space if he does

[melonhead]

I just don't understand how, if you had more money available, you'd think "no, it's ok thanks, I'll stick with players like Tabb and Bryn in midfield rather than get in more cover" etc. It just doesn't make sense to me.

he had some money available, just not enough to buy everything he wanted, so had to compromise, get just the 1 midfielder in, and just the one CD, and just the one striker, and two full backs

instead of replacing virtually the whole team like QPR

[melonhead]

I just don't understand how, if you had more money available, you'd think "no, it's ok thanks, I'll stick with players like Tabb and Bryn in midfield rather than get in more cover" etc. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Coppell did the exact same thing, albeit with less money available.

he stuck with players who had just finished 8th in the prem, and were generally better than those we have now tbf to him