Alex Pearce

[melonhead]

i didnt say he wouldnt

i just said he may not be, and given their start, and the daftness he keeps coming out with on that liverpool tv programme, and the fact that he hasnt learned his lessons on being over the top stubborn about style of play to the exclusion of winning, he definitely may not be.


i also question pearces ability to be a ball playing defender


i may be wrong, but i still question it

[MmmMonsterMunch]

So overall I will back the club's approach here. If not the whole future of the club is at risk...

If paying Premier League wages to a squad risks the financial future of the club, then we may as well just give up on the PL, accept relegation, and not bother trying to get promoted at all.

Have you seen the debt levels being carried by most PL clubs for exactly this reason? If Bolton did not have a rich benefactor prepared to lose 120M (the last time it was published) they would already have followed Pompey this season.

The only way of competing at PL level longer term is to build up massive un-repayable debts. Therefore we cannot compete unless Anton is prepared to throw ridiculous amounts of money at it with no hope of return. Sooner or later one or other large club WILL implode

For how many years have people been saying this?

Definitely not a case of sooner, and the later seems to be getting later and later!

One day life on earth will come to an end! (Cue Attenborough comments).

except for Rangers FC - one of the biggest clubs in the world?

[maffff]

That doesn't count. No one cares about Scottish football.

[Hoop Blah]

i didnt say he wouldnt

i just said he may not be, and given their start, and the daftness he keeps coming out with on that liverpool tv programme, and the fact that he hasnt learned his lessons on being over the top stubborn about style of play to the exclusion of winning, he definitely may not be.


i also question pearces ability to be a ball playing defender


i may be wrong, but i still question it

What stubborness over playing style? Did you not see their long ball goal the other day?

[andrew1957]

So when they said the TSI investment will mean we 'dont have to lose our better players' it was all a big lie?
If Pearce doesn't want to be here then we're better off without him but replacing him with quality that will improve our side (the manager obviously felt he was one of our best central defenders previously so I tend to believe he thinks we're playing a weakened side - on ability - by leaving Pearce out) not weaken it.

in so much as its impossible to stop a player going if theyre good enough to merit a more lucrative deal from a much bigger club
what i think was implied though is that we no longer have to sell cos we need the money, which is different, and possibly irrelevant in this case if he goes for free

I was stretching the context a bit admittedly, in response to the point made by andrew, but essentially it seems we're losing Pearce because we're not offering him enough money to stay (obviously there might be an element of thinking he's an opportunity to move to a bigger and better club as well). If our budget isn't enough to compete with the majority of Premier League clubs (which is what andrew was suggesting) then we do have to sell in order to survive.

It is not an issue of "selling to survive" but rather an issue that if (for example) Pearce knows that Liverpool are willing to pay say 50K a week and we have to match this to keep him then I would fully support our stance in saying "no".

Obviously none of us know for sure but if the club just pay whatever every player demands it would be disastrous.

[Hoop Blah]

We obviously still have a budget and limits we have to work within yes.

[melonhead]

i didnt say he wouldnt

i just said he may not be, and given their start, and the daftness he keeps coming out with on that liverpool tv programme, and the fact that he hasnt learned his lessons on being over the top stubborn about style of play to the exclusion of winning, he definitely may not be.


i also question pearces ability to be a ball playing defender


i may be wrong, but i still question it

What stubborness over playing style? Did you not see their long ball goal the other day?

i refer specifically to him letting their best striker go, without having another signed, because he didnt believe he could play in the style he wanted

[sputnik]

With both Skrtel and Agger recently signing new long-term contracts it would seem any move by Pearce to Anfield would likely see him warming the bench for Liverpool more often than not.

[RoyalBlue]

That doesn't count. No one cares about Scottish football.

Exactly, despite what its inhabitants like to think, Scotland isn't the world!

[Stranded]

With both Skrtel and Agger recently signing new long-term contracts it would seem any move by Pearce to Anfield would likely see him warming the bench for Liverpool more often than not.

Individual players don't see it that way though. If he goes there he'll have belief he can dislodge one of them very quickly.

[madstadblues]

What I don't get is the 'perceived' lack of loyalty. AP must recognise that he has become what he is not just by ability bit by having that talent identifed and nutured by the club. Whilst I don't have issues with players moving on to better themselves and provide for their families, I don't understand why a player like AP who owes the club won't sign a contract with a 'player favourable release fee' that would mean if L'pool wanted to buy him they could but we would also get some $'s back as teh alternative would mean he just moves on for nothing. I am sure this is what happend with Doyle and Long.

[cmonurz]

What I don't get is the 'perceived' lack of loyalty. AP must recognise that he has become what he is not just by ability bit by having that talent identifed and nutured by the club. Whilst I don't have issues with players moving on to better themselves and provide for their families, I don't understand why a player like AP who owes the club won't sign a contract with a 'player favourable release fee' that would mean if L'pool wanted to buy him they could but we would also get some $'s back as teh alternative would mean he just moves on for nothing. I am sure this is what happend with Doyle and Long.

Pearce 'owes RFC' nothing whatsoever.

[Hoop Blah]

i refer specifically to him letting their best striker go, without having another signed, because he didnt believe he could play in the style he wanted

Even though that's largely bollocks though?

Carroll isn't/wasn't their best forward, that's pretty obviously Suarez. He let him go because he doesn't think he's good enough, like any other manager makes decisions on players, but as for not replacing him, he was told they'd get Dempsey for him only for that to fall through (who's fault we don't really know, but considering Rodgers comments since it wasn't his decision to and he thought - naively perhaps - that the money men would deliver the player they said they would).

If, financially, he had to clear the decks in order to bring new blood in I can't see how letting Carroll go without a replacement can be a criticism. He didn't want him but financially couldn't replace him until his wages were off the wage bill.

[melonhead]

not their best forward, thats as you say suarez. i said their best striker


and either way horrendously short sighted, and stupid.

never let a player o if you havent got the replacement, or at least a back up nailed on
assessing borini as worthy of wearing the red was also another huge mistake

[Hoop Blah]

As far as he was concerned the Dempsey deal was nailed on though.

They couldn't afford to keep Carroll until they'd bought someone else in so how's that going to work?

Forward/striker, same difference, but even more so if you're not actually playing with a [by your apparent definition] striker.

[cmonurz]

not their best forward, thats as you say suarez. i said their best striker


and either way horrendously short sighted, and stupid.

never let a player o if you havent got the replacement, or at least a back up nailed on
assessing borini as worthy of wearing the red was also another huge mistake

It's pretty simple brendy, Rodgers was assured Dempsey would come in, Carroll's departure paved the way for it. FSG didn't complete the deal and Rodgers was shafted.

Borini is a 21 year old Italian international, considered one of Italy's best prospects, he might look a snip at £7m in a couple of years.

[maffff]

Why On Earth Are Liverpool Linked With Mediocrity Like This?

Liverpool are closely monitoring Reading centre back Alex Pearce, who they see as a long-term replacement for club legend Jamie Carragher. Pearce, who was voted Reading’s player of the season last year, is in the last year of his contract and will available at a reduced price in January, or a free agent next Summer.

Pearce played every minute of league football in 2012 to secure Readings promotion to the Premiership, but hasn’t featured in McDermott’s side since September, in which time they have conceded 18 goals. It is believed Pearce is unhappy with his new deal that Reading have offered and has been dropped from the team until he agrees to sign it. This has invited speculation from Liverpool who are expected to come in with an offer in January.

Rodgers is well aware of the 23 year olds talents from his time at Reading and believes he would make an excellent replacement for the long serving Carragher, whose time at Liverpool seems to be nearing an end. Aside from first choice regulars Skrtel and Agger they are short on defensive reinforcements and Rodgers feels his existing options aren’t up to scratch. His former captain at Reading would be an ideal choice who has impressed both on the pitch and off it.

It seems like Liverpool are being linked with anyone and everyone for a move in January, most crucially a striker. But this is a transfer that is very likely to materialise and to turn a few heads. With Agger’s consistent injuries and Skrtel’s basic mistakes, Pearce would get his fair share of football and he looks a quality young defender. It’s to early to say yet but he has the potential to be an Anfield legend to put it mildly.

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[melonhead]

not their best forward, thats as you say suarez. i said their best striker


and either way horrendously short sighted, and stupid.

never let a player o if you havent got the replacement, or at least a back up nailed on
assessing borini as worthy of wearing the red was also another huge mistake

It's pretty simple brendy, Rodgers was assured Dempsey would come in, Carroll's departure paved the way for it. FSG didn't complete the deal and Rodgers was shafted.

Borini is a 21 year old Italian international, considered one of Italy's best prospects, he might look a snip at £7m in a couple of years.

but theyre not paying 7 million for him in a couple of years

dont get me wrong, i like rodgers, i hoped he would succeed at reading, and dont wish him ill will elsewhere.
its simply that from his mad utterings in interviews , and on the liverpool tv programme, he still hasnt learned any lessons, and still seems more style than substance.
he just seems to have a knack of getting people to buy into his bulshit

i hope im proven wrong. hes a good man, and a great youth coach.

[Hoop Blah]

That's great brendy, but it doesn't change the fact your original pop at him and the basis for it was pretty much a load of rubbish.

[melonhead]

That's great brendy, but it doesn't change the fact your original pop at him and the basis for it was pretty much a load of rubbish.

thats your opinion, thanks for taking such an interest in mine


very different roles are the striker, and the forward imo
and the fact remains that had he kept him, theyd be higher up the table now, with a proper strike force to pick from
he has not learnt his lessons at all, in terms of the bullshit after matches, and his stubborn insistence on playing his way( a long ball goal aside), and with inexperienced playing kids in important games