How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

[Vision]

Changing the whole squad I agree, would have been stupid. All I am saying is that their was plenty of cash available for Brian to spend and he didn't spend enough of it or well enough.

I think we can all agree on that.

Do we actually *know* there was plenty more cash available though or are we just assuming it.

[sandman]

The Internet said it so it must be true.

[Lacoste]

Changing the whole squad I agree, would have been stupid. All I am saying is that their was plenty of cash available for Brian to spend and he didn't spend enough of it or well enough.

I think we can all agree on that.

Do we actually *know* there was plenty more cash available though or are we just assuming it.

I know as do people like Gazza Loyal Royal and Fridays Legacy etc. There was much more money available.

[Vision]

How much more money?

[Cobi]

thats the squad we have/had though

and we didnt have the money to do a total rebuild in the summer...

It was never about what money was available. McD wanted to give the players a fair chance, which I agree with usually, but knowing a lot of this squad is playing way above their means, it was equally foolish, and we should have invested in at least 2-3 more players.

January will, I hope, rectify that - but I fear it will be far too late by then to stay up.

i said didnt have the money for a total rebuild
not bringing in another 2 or 3 players

But we don't know what money is there, so it's still irrelevant.

[Lacoste]

How much more money?

Don't know exactly however there are rumblings around the board room that we wouldn't be where we are now hads we spent the extra cash. He has also made funds for Brian or whoever to strengthen again in Jan.

The money was there.

[melonhead]

How much more money?

Don't know exactly however there are rumblings around the board room that we wouldn't be where we are now hads we spent the extra cash. He has also made funds for Brian or whoever to strengthen again in Jan.

The money was there.

money spent by saints + QPR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what we spent


woohoo

[Lacoste]

How much more money?

Don't know exactly however there are rumblings around the board room that we wouldn't be where we are now hads we spent the extra cash. He has also made funds for Brian or whoever to strengthen again in Jan.

The money was there.

money spent by saints + QPR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what we spent


woohoo

Such a shit argument.

[melonhead]

not really-seems quite pertinent. it says to me that its not actually money spent that is key to performamnce/achievment
west ham and saints spent more than us last year, and we beat them to the championship



regardless of how much money we have to pend, or how much you want us to spend- the fact remains you cannot get a whole new team in in the summer and hope to be succesful. see QPR again.
and you arent going to attract proven quality prmiere league players to reading no matter what you offer.

its about slow and steady evolution. if that means we go down and take the parachute payments, and get back up again in a year or so. so be it.

[melonhead]

How much more money?

Don't know exactly .

great argument

[Lacoste]

not really-seems quite pertinent. it says to me that its not actually money spent that is key to performamnce/achievment
west ham and saints spent more than us last year, and we beat them to the championship



regardless of how much money we have to pend, or how much you want us to spend- the fact remains you cannot get a whole new team in in the summer and hope to be succesful. see QPR again.
and you arent going to attract proven quality prmiere league players to reading no matter what you offer.

its about slow and steady evolution. if that means we go down and take the parachute payments, and get back up again in a year or so. so be it.

If you read my post you will see that I am glad we didn't get a whole new team in the summer. We should, however have added better quality in key areas than we did. I also bel;ieve that when it comet so intergrating players into the side, Brian is awful.

Southampton wasted a lot of money on overpriced unproven players. QPR wasted a lot of money on journeymen players with no fight or hunger, there is definitely an imbetween and a better manager would have found that.


I admire your loyalty though, melonhead.

[melonhead]

good

[Lacoste]

good

Bless, you're a good boy, melonhead.

[Lacoste]

Oh, and 2-3 players in key areas in Jan and a new style of play and we could easly start to pick up victories in this league.

Those saying there's no point sacking Mcd because no manager could play any different with this crop of players are speaking Bullshit TBH and may aswll just sit back and wait to be relegated. I would still give the guy the Everton game though to see if he's learnt anything.

[Extended-Phenotype]

not really-seems quite pertinent. it says to me that its not actually money spent that is key to performamnce/achievment
west ham and saints spent more than us last year, and we beat them to the championship



regardless of how much money we have to pend, or how much you want us to spend- the fact remains you cannot get a whole new team in in the summer and hope to be succesful. see QPR again.
and you arent going to attract proven quality prmiere league players to reading no matter what you offer.

its about slow and steady evolution. if that means we go down and take the parachute payments, and get back up again in a year or so. so be it.

Is your argument: "we have a better squad because we spend less money"?

Surely if Reading are as good as they are without spending as much, we'd be better still by spending a bit more on players we need?

Anti-money arguments just don't work.

[ZacNaloen]

We should be able to afford better players now, the argument about taking a risk on Zaha... is the same argument we used to make about taking risks on players for 250k

We can afford a better calibre of risk now. And we should be taking it. Zaha never had much of a risk anyway.*

*Which is why we had no chance of getting him anyway

[Once were Biscuitmen]

Oh, and 2-3 players in key areas in Jan and a new style of play and we could easly start to pick up victories in this league.

Those saying there's no point sacking Mcd because no manager could play any different with this crop of players are speaking Bullshit TBH and may aswll just sit back and wait to be relegated. I would still give the guy the Everton game though to see if he's learnt anything.

Yet there are worse things in footballing life than being relegated from the Premiership.

Like say sacking a more than competent manager with a strong record of getting out of the championship, mucking up the replacement, and then realising that perhaps there are also worse things than being a yo-yo team. <cough> Wolves.

Staying in the Premiership is a reasonably long shot for promoted teams not doping on debt. Incremental growth with stability of management has thankfully been the Reading way, if that means there are a few relegations and promotion parties along the way I would take that over disloyalty, cheating via debt, and even finishing lower mid table in the Premiership every year.

You also patently have no idea how much money there was to spend in the summer, nobody on here does. If you do I’d love to know the figure and your source. ‘Everybody knows’ and ‘other random moany poster’ are not sources.

[Lacoste]

Oh, and 2-3 players in key areas in Jan and a new style of play and we could easly start to pick up victories in this league.

Those saying there's no point sacking Mcd because no manager could play any different with this crop of players are speaking Bullshit TBH and may aswll just sit back and wait to be relegated. I would still give the guy the Everton game though to see if he's learnt anything.

Yet there are worse things in footballing life than being relegated from the Premiership.

Like say sacking a more than competent manager with a strong record of getting out of the championship, mucking up the replacement, and then realising that perhaps there are also worse things than being a yo-yo team. <cough> Wolves.

Staying in the Premiership is a reasonably long shot for promoted teams not doping on debt. Incremental growth with stability of management has thankfully been the Reading way, if that means there are a few relegations and promotion parties along the way I would take that over disloyalty, cheating via debt, and even finishing lower mid table in the Premiership every year.

You also patently have no idea how much money there was to spend in the summer, nobody on here does. If you do I’d love to know the figure and your source. ‘Everybody knows’ and ‘other random moany poster’ are not sources.

I don't have a figure, as there wasn't an actual exact figure. My source is my brother in law who is a senior figure at London Irish and has regular meetings with Nigel Howe. He has told me a few things which have prettuy much mirrored what other people who have contacts at the club have said.


My Brother in law has no reason to lie and neither do I

[winchester_royal]

Hi, Bring Back The SB

[Lacoste]

Hi, Bring Back The SB

Hi - oh and everyone knows iI used to be BBTSB.