Back from the Everton (H) game

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Re: Back from the Everton (H) game

by If you still hate Futcher » 19 Nov 2012 17:33

Disagree - the one that Gorkss headed backward and sideways toward Jelavic it was obvious that even if he'd managed to head it properly he wouldn't get much purchase on it and it would end up either being a fight ball in around our area.

As there wasn't a player within 10 yards of Gorkss (the nearest one being Feds himself) he could very easily have called for the ball and come out to claim it.

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Re: Back from the Everton (H) game

by Man Friday » 19 Nov 2012 18:33

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winchester_royal Just to be clear...I didn't leave early. And like the rest of you I was muttering obscenities under my breath at those who were leaving with 2 minutes to go...

Not sure why I'm explaining myself to you though, I'll go whenever I damn well please you fruit headed mong :D

De facto, you Downs Syndrome hating wazzock. Just that I've been going to football matches for a few years now and I've never seen other sets of supporters leave early when their team's match is on a knife-edge. Can you imagine that at, say, Anfield? Oh, I forgot, our traffic problems are worse than anybody else's.

No actually, I think we've got the most middle-classey, fickle, want-success-today, set of fans in the league. 'twas not always this way of course.


LOL

There's nothing unique about Reading fans you self-loathing div

No, I just loathe you, dick-head.

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Re: Back from the Everton (H) game

by Man Friday » 19 Nov 2012 18:43

REMTARDROYAL An Everton view

Well at least this result made a change from drawing with really average teams.

David Moyes said that he was as pissed off as he has ever been after a game, but it couldn’t have come as that much of a surprise to him as an all too familiar pattern of play saw the Blues dominate the early stages, fail to open up a decent lead and then allow very limited opponents back into the game courtesy of hopeless defending.

Thomas Hitzlsperger, Der Spirit-Level, was a surprise starter in place of the injured Phil Neville while Steven Naismith continued on the right while we await the return of Kevin Mirallas.

In the first half Reading were shocking – the worst side Everton have faced this season. Indeed, the Toffees should have been ahead within the first couple of minutes when first Adam Federici blocked a Phil Jagielka effort from close range and then watched as the unmarked Nikica Jelavic volleyed Hitzlsperger’s cross into the turf and harmlessly wide. It was a passage of play that summed up much of the rest of the half.

A goal did arrive on nine minutes though as a Reading defence that looked like chickens with a fox in the coop every time the ball came into their box failed to deal with a straightforward bouncing ball, allowing Naismith to score from six yards.

After that it was the usual procession of Leon Osman pea-rollers, some decent saves and plenty of shrug-inducing misjudged final balls from Everton as they walked the ball to the edge of the home side’s penalty area with impunity. Jelavic and Marouane Fellaini should have run riot against such a disorganised back four, but the pair of them looked too casual and failed to get hold of the ball and do the basics consistently.

Jelavic’s only notable contribution should have seen a penalty awarded when his fierce shot was blatantly handled by Sean Morrison. It was the second Stonewall spot kick – so blatant it caused a riot in a gay bar – that referee Martin Atkinson failed to award. The first was when early-90s Dennis Leary-looking tripe-hound Kasper Gorkss clearly clattered Naismith.

1-0 at half-time then and you just knew that Brian McDermott’s team talk would be along the lines of: ‘We should be dead and buried here, so see this second half as an opportunity – be a bit more aggressive and we will get chances’. With some of those sort of crouching fist pumps he does thrown in for good measure.

Lo and behold, after only five minutes Martin Atkinson gave a bollocks free kick against Hitzlsperger, it got lofted into the near post area and Adam Le Fondre, hardly the most fearsome target-man, found himself free to head past Tim Howard.

Only Sonny and Cher playing over the public address system would have made the whole mood feel more like Groundhog Day.

Fellaini hit a post with a header and Hitzlsperger volleyed narrowly wide, but there was no real conviction from a generally sloppy and off-colour Everton team.

To top it all off, on 78 minutes winless Reading took the lead from the penalty spot courtesy of a ridiculous challenge by Seamus Coleman. The young Irishman’s enthusiasm is always commendable but in all honesty, the Southampton game aside, he has looked something of a liability during this spell covering for Tony Hibbert. He makes too many bad decisions when he’s under pressure – none more so than his leap into the back of Le Fondre. It looked like someone trying to break down a door but realising while in mid-air that it’s a lot harder to do in real life than it is on television. Even Atkinson couldn’t miss it, and similarly Le Fondre was always going to do the business from the spot.

It’s hard to know what Moyes is meant to change about his team given that most of what they have been doing this season has been exemplary. Even at the Madejski, where the second half was really disappointing, they should have scored at least two or three before the break, and that’s besides the two denied penalties.

The return of Mirallas will obviously be a welcome one, and dare we say it Hibbert’s too, whenever he’s fit. The forwards could do with being a bit more aggressive – they look as if they give balls up a little bit too easily at times and hardly won a free-kick all game – and the defenders might consider not conceding at least one soft goal every single game.

Other than that, we are still in fifth place, but it’s not lost on anybody that a mass of points have been dropped unnecessarily over the last month or so. And the upshot of that is we are now going to have to beat some pretty good teams if we want to maintain any genuine ambition of a fourth place finish.

Can't disagree with any of that to be tbf but I would say that poor refereeing has so far cost us more points than it's earned us.

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Re: Back from the Everton (H) game

by East End Lady » 19 Nov 2012 20:25

Does anyone know who the player with long hair tied back who was warming up with the team is? I thought that the Indian guy had gone.

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Re: Back from the Everton (H) game

by ZacNaloen » 19 Nov 2012 20:28

East End Lady Does anyone know who the player with long hair tied back who was warming up with the team is? I thought that the Indian guy had gone.


Dominic Samuel, U21 striker.

He's been coming to matches with the first team for a while now. He's either very close to the starting 11 or about to go out on loan for the first time. Obita travelled around with the squad a lot last year as well.


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Re: Back from the Everton (H) game

by biscuitman » 19 Nov 2012 20:32

Definite loan. Getting use to the whole match day experience. Probably get shipped to Exeter or somewhere.

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Re: Back from the Everton (H) game

by East End Lady » 19 Nov 2012 20:35

Thanks zac knew I'd seen him before just couldn't place hin.

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Re: Back from the Everton (H) game

by Hoop Blah » 20 Nov 2012 11:08

East End Lady Does anyone know who the player with long hair tied back who was warming up with the team is? I thought that the Indian guy had gone.


What Indian guy?

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Re: Back from the Everton (H) game

by MouldyRoyal » 20 Nov 2012 11:08

Brandon Fernandes

EDIT: But yes it will have been Samuel.


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Re: Back from the Everton (H) game

by Hoop Blah » 20 Nov 2012 11:15

Thanks, I'd completely missed him being on trial.

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Re: Back from the Everton (H) game

by CayeneMatt » 20 Nov 2012 20:40

Slightly OT, but did anyone else think that Roberts had gained a yard of pace at the weekend?

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Re: Back from the Everton (H) game

by Maguire » 20 Nov 2012 22:27

The first was when early-90s Dennis Leary-looking tripe-hound Kasper Gorkss clearly clattered Naismith.


Just to pick up on this - happened right in front of us and I thought it was a ridiculous dive, so much so that I got out of my seat for the first time in ages to scream some choice words at Naismith. He just dropped to the floor then got up looking a bit sheepish.

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Re: Back from the Everton (H) game

by Croydon Royal » 20 Nov 2012 22:41

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The first was when early-90s Dennis Leary-looking tripe-hound Kasper Gorkss clearly clattered Naismith.


Just to pick up on this - happened right in front of us and I thought it was a ridiculous dive, so much so that I got out of my seat for the first time in ages to scream some choice words at Naismith. He just dropped to the floor then got up looking a bit sheepish.


Yup, agreed. I was sitting right in front of this as well and it looked like a crazy dive by Naismith. Even the usually calm people sitting around me in the North Stand were dipping into their big book of profanities to shout at him.

Have to say though it was so stupid of Gorkss to dive in in the first place. Naismith was going nowhere and although he didn't touch him, he could have given Atkinson a decision to make absolutely needlessly. Just another in a long line of stupid decisions made by Kaspars in that first 45 minutes.


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Re: Back from the Everton (H) game

by Croydon Royal » 20 Nov 2012 22:43

Oh, and Naismith reminded me a lot of Noel Hunt. Never stopped moaning at the ref and claimed for absolutely everything. One of those players who you can't stand if they are against you, but love if they're on your side.

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Re: Back from the Everton (H) game

by Maguire » 20 Nov 2012 23:03

Croydon Royal Even the usually calm people sitting around me in the North Stand were dipping into their big book of profanities to shout at him


haha, you could sit behind me

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