How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

[Haag Royal]

Not at all - but at least have the decency to accept others have views (and information) that might not be yours or what you what to hear before you lower yourself to questioning my intelligence without knowing me.

Don't bother getting personal.

[SPARTA]

Sweet Jesus, will we have to endure this mongfest every time we lose a game?

There are at least 17 teams with higher value squads than ours.
There are almost certainly at least 17 teams with higher wage bills than ours.
There are almost certainly at least 17 teams with higher revenues and/or more indulgent sugar daddies than ours.
We were favorites for relegation before the season started for a reason.

What is it with all this "at least 17 other..." There are 19 for all of the above.

[winchester_royal]

Not at all - but at least have the decency to accept others have views (and information) that might not be yours or what you what to hear before you lower yourself to questioning my intelligence without knowing me.

Don't bother getting personal.

Saying that Anton should reconsider his position in football if he doesn't sack arguably the best manager in our history tells me all I need to know about your intelligence.

[RoyalBlue]

Not at all - but at least have the decency to accept others have views (and information) that might not be yours or what you what to hear before you lower yourself to questioning my intelligence without knowing me.

Don't bother getting personal.

Saying that Anton should reconsider his position in football if he doesn't sack arguably the best manager in our history tells me all I need to know about your intelligence.

And it would be a very interesting argument because, based on where we are now, I would say SSC is the best manager in our history.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Not at all - but at least have the decency to accept others have views (and information) that might not be yours or what you what to hear before you lower yourself to questioning my intelligence without knowing me.

Don't bother getting personal.

TBF you clearly have no intelligence if you are seriously debating whether Steve is coming back.

[winchester_royal]

Not at all - but at least have the decency to accept others have views (and information) that might not be yours or what you what to hear before you lower yourself to questioning my intelligence without knowing me.

Don't bother getting personal.

Saying that Anton should reconsider his position in football if he doesn't sack arguably the best manager in our history tells me all I need to know about your intelligence.

And it would be a very interesting argument because, based on where we are now, I would say SSC is the best manager in our history.

Hard to compare them really, given the squad Copps had was massively superior to the one we have now.

[Haag Royal]

Not at all - but at least have the decency to accept others have views (and information) that might not be yours or what you what to hear before you lower yourself to questioning my intelligence without knowing me.

Don't bother getting personal.

Saying that Anton should reconsider his position in football if he doesn't sack arguably the best manager in our history tells me all I need to know about your intelligence.

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[winchester_royal]

Put it another way - if we do lose on Tuesday and BMD keeps his job then the new owner needs ask himself why he is involved in football.

[Royal With Cheese]

Put it another way - if we do lose on Tuesday and BMD keeps his job then the new owner needs ask himself why he is involved in football.

What price SSC to come in till the end of the season?

What price you have an IQ less than the number of points we'll get this season?

What price he has an IQ less than the number of points we currently have?

[Royal With Cheese]

Ha ha winch - quoted before you removed!

I though it was a valid point.

[andrew1957]

I disagree.

I'm with Floyd in thinking that this squad is, quite comfortably, the worst in the division. You call Wigan an average side, but in players like Kone, Di Santo, McCarthy and Gomez they have players that would walk straight into our 1st team.

We are managing to compete against teams like Everton because of the way we are set-up. We get the ball forward quickly and get players up the pitch in support. We don't have players who can unlock defences on their own so this is the only way we can play. Yes this leaves us open defensively, but we saw at home to Spurs just how poor we are when trying to play a different style.

There are players out of form, but I'm not sure you can blame McDermott for the individual errors the players make.

I think McDermott's tactics and ideology will win us more points than any other style we could adopt without making huge changes to the squad.

Of course McDermott has to take the blame for not strengthening the squad in a better way in the summer, but without knowing the budget he had and the recruitment structure in place under TSI I'm certainly not going to use it as a reason to call for the head of a guy who is THE reason we are in this league. Plus I can understand why he wanted to keep the core of the squad intact, as our 'success' this season was always going to depend on spirit rather than quality.

P.O.T.S. (I.M.O.)

+1

[Born 'n Bred Royal]

I think Brian's main failing this season is poor activity in the transfer window, there isn't really much that can be done with the current squad. Out of the new players only Shorey and maybe McCleary have looked any good this season, McDermott can't seem to get Guthrie on side and am I the only one who doesn't like Pogbrenyak? I would have rather seen Noel Hunt come on yesterday as a player with his work rate would have been just what we needed to keep chasing their defence/midfield down - which we could not seem to do at all yesterday.

Yes his decision making yesterday did make me scratch my head as well, but I think just blaming the manager, or bizarrely the goalkeeper for yesterday's defeat overlooks the wider problem. AZ (or McDermott if offered the funds) did not spend anywhere near enough compared to our nearest rivals and we have mostly a Championship squad.

We over achieved last season and the season before with the squad we had and I will always be grateful to Brian for the memories over the last couple of years. I don't want him to go yet as I don't think there is anyone on the market who realistically could do a better job until money is spent. I think Brian should be given the chance in January, as let's face it were it not for his heroics in managing team spirit more than nurturing a quality side last season, we would not even be in the Premier League with that squad.

I'm still fully behind Brian, it can take years of yo-yoing between the prem and Champ before prem status can be maintained - just look at where West Brom are now! We need a long term vision of stability and gradual improvement rather than wielding the axe every few months.

[Vic_Flange]

SSC totally lost his love for football whilst with us. He had no fight left in him at the end & it was a slow lingering death. Why the hell would we want him back?

Great respect for what he achieved in the good days but come on that ship has sailed. I doubt he'd even say yes anyway.

Bit much to say Coppell lost his love of football whilst with us - just because he didn't jump into the next managers / coaching job going doesn't mean he fell out of love with the game. He's a sensible fella and just wanted to give his ticker a break and spend a little time with his family!

I agree with your other points.

[Lacoste]

People go on about Brian not having a very good squad, well he built this squad so its a stupid argument.

Anyway, been told today that Anton doesn't trust Brian with the good sum if funds we have available in Jan but at the same token doesn't want to piss the Reading fans off loyal to Brian and needs a decent reason to sack him. A loss to Villa on Tuesday and he will be gone with Advocaat coming in. He has also spoken to Hiddink.

Once again, I have no reason to lie and neither does my Brother in law who has access to this information through being close to members of London Irish and Reading FC boards . Anton wants his own man in

[SPARTA]

People go on about Brian not having a very good squad, well he built this squad so its a stupid argument.

Anyway, been told today that Anton doesn't trust Brian with the good sum if funds we have available in Jan but at the same token doesn't want to piss the Reading fans off loyal to Brian and needs a decent reason to sack him. A loss to Villa on Tuesday and he will be gone with Advocaat coming in. He has also spoken to Hiddink.

[redscot]

New manager. New players. It Is not easier to just find another team to support?

(All I am banking on is that 3 other teams will do a Reading after Xmas and loose 8 times in a row.)

[MmmMonsterMunch]

People go on about Brian not having a very good squad, well he built this squad so its a stupid argument.

Anyway, been told today that Anton doesn't trust Brian with the good sum if funds we have available in Jan but at the same token doesn't want to piss the Reading fans off loyal to Brian and needs a decent reason to sack him. A loss to Villa on Tuesday and he will be gone with Advocaat coming in. He has also spoken to Hiddink.

Once again, I have no reason to lie and neither does my Brother in law who has access to this information through being close to members of London Irish and Reading FC boards . Anton wants his own man in

I smell bullshit

[RoyalBlue]

People go on about Brian not having a very good squad, well he built this squad so its a stupid argument.

Anyway, been told today that Anton doesn't trust Brian with the good sum if funds we have available in Jan but at the same token doesn't want to piss the Reading fans off loyal to Brian and needs a decent reason to sack him. A loss to Villa on Tuesday and he will be gone with Advocaat coming in. He has also spoken to Hiddink.

Once again, I have no reason to lie and neither does my Brother in law who has access to this information through being close to members of London Irish and Reading FC boards . Anton wants his own man in

Ignoring the 'in the know' part, this still makes quite a bit of sense. McDermott came as part of the deal. I'm sure Anton would be happy to keep him if he was succeeding but failing as he is, why wouldn't Anton want to replace him with his own man, particularly if supporters are also losing faith?

[Lacoste]

People go on about Brian not having a very good squad, well he built this squad so its a stupid argument.

Anyway, been told today that Anton doesn't trust Brian with the good sum if funds we have available in Jan but at the same token doesn't want to piss the Reading fans off loyal to Brian and needs a decent reason to sack him. A loss to Villa on Tuesday and he will be gone with Advocaat coming in. He has also spoken to Hiddink.

I think the discussions with Hiddink were in more of an advisory, we need help kind of role.

What people seem to forget is that we have lots and lots of cash available to spend and many managers would court this position. The fact that Brian decided to spend a fraction of what was available has pissed off the boaed and led the fans to believe we had no money. Trust me we will spend in Jan

[akranes]

People go on about Brian not having a very good squad, well he built this squad so its a stupid argument.

Anyway, been told today that Anton doesn't trust Brian with the good sum if funds we have available in Jan but at the same token doesn't want to piss the Reading fans off loyal to Brian and needs a decent reason to sack him. A loss to Villa on Tuesday and he will be gone with Advocaat coming in. He has also spoken to Hiddink.

I think the discussions with Hiddink were in more of an advisory, we need help kind of role.

What people seem to forget is that we have lots and lots of cash available to spend and many managers would court this position. The fact that Brian decided to spend a fraction of what was available has pissed off the boaed and led the fans to believe we had no money. Trust me we will spend in Jan

It's sad, but I actually want to believe this. (referring to the first part).
Advocaat would be a masterclass signing though, surely?