How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Decent game changing midfielders don't come along that often. When we did get one, he got sold to Hoffenheim. You can hardly blame BM for that.

[ManchesterRoyals]

For what it's worth I agree about Gunter & Gorkss. I don't know how you solve the problem of CM though. Lets be honest, it's been an issue for 6 years now.

To be honest if we played are best team and lost i wouldnt be so arsed as at least we were giving a go, but by not playing are best team i feel frustrated angry and questioning BM management

And the CM question, it has been a issue but should have been sorted in the summer but it wasnt sorry another management failure

[leon]

For what it's worth I agree about Gunter & Gorkss. I don't know how you solve the problem of CM though. Lets be honest, it's been an issue for 6 years now.

To be honest if we played are best team and lost i wouldnt be so arsed as at least we were giving a go, but by not playing are best team i feel frustrated angry and questioning BM management

And the CM question, it has been a issue but should have been sorted in the summer but it wasnt sorry another management failure

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[Royal Monk]

Judge BM 6 weeks after the transfer window closes

Are you for real ? that gives him until half way through March .....it will be too late to do anything then

[AthleticoSpizz]

Judge BM 6 weeks after the transfer window closes

Are you for real ? that gives him until half way through March .....it will be too late to do anything then

yes

and yes so what?

[RoyalBlue]

and the "Reading way" is to show loyalty to the players that got us to these dizzy heights......for a few weeks at least


Judge BM 6 weeks after the transfer window closes

He's already been judged and found wanting some months after the closure of the last one.

[soggy biscuit]

The supporters will almost be split in half

Wahay!!!!

[Avon Royal]

Judge BM 6 weeks after the transfer window closes

Are you for real ? that gives him until half way through March .....it will be too late to do anything then

yes

and yes so what?

Hi Brian.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

"So true. For years Wigan have shown that 'The Wigan Way' is far more effective than 'The Reading Way'"

This is where you lose all credibility I'm afraid. Season after season they are involved in survival sunday & are the best part of £90m in debt. When dearest old Dave Whelan pops his clogs (happy 76th birthday by the way Dave) who in their right mind will keep bank rolling that car crash waiting to happen?

One day survival Sunday is going to bite them on the ass. They will then disappear into the lower leagues & be in a far worse state than Reading ever would be if we went down.

[AthleticoSpizz]

and the "Reading way" is to show loyalty to the players that got us to these dizzy heights......for a few weeks at least


Judge BM 6 weeks after the transfer window closes

He's already been judged and found wanting some months after the closure of the last one.

yesss we know....and for the reasons mentioned on line one


and quite rightly so imho

[Born 'n Bred Royal]

and the "Reading way" is to show loyalty to the players that got us to these dizzy heights......for a few weeks at least


Judge BM 6 weeks after the transfer window closes

He's already been judged and found wanting some months after the closure of the last one.

How has he? We've got the smallest wage bill and spent the least in the entire division. I don't know if he had more funds available or not in August - if he did I think even Brian himself will be able to tell that we need 3 or 4 players, in which case he needs more time. He was a miracle worker last season and deserves to see out his project in the premier league. We're only 1 point inside the relegation zone with still Aston Villa and Soton to play. Maybe if we lose both Anton will start to change his mind but he's already been given full backing.

Had we won or even drawn yesterday which we were seconds away and a stonewall pen decision from doing there wouldn't be these sorts of moronic posts. Let's trust McDermott - although the second half was poor yesterday there wasn't a massive margin between the sides and they've been in the PL for years now. A bit of perspective is required I think, although I fear anti-Mcdermott sentiment is starting to creep in. Let's give him some money in January and if we're still found wanting after that then I think it would be fair to assess his position

[AthleticoSpizz]

thank you BnB

good post (more eloquently put than I ever could to some of these w4nkers)

[Hoop Blah]

How has he? We've got the smallest wage bill and spent the least in the entire division. I don't know if he had more funds available or not in August - if he did I think even Brian himself will be able to tell that we need 3 or 4 players, in which case he needs more time. He was a miracle worker last season and deserves to see out his project in the premier league. We're only 1 point inside the relegation zone with still Aston Villa and Soton to play. Maybe if we lose both Anton will start to change his mind but he's already been given full backing.

McDermott put this squad together and, in his words, got all the players he wanted to get us ready for this season.

Who's fault then is it that we've got the smallest wage bill and spent the least in the division (I don't believe we have got the smallest wage by the way, and even if we have, it will be marginal and down to a lack of depth not because we haven't had the ability to pay first teamers enough).

Had we won or even drawn yesterday which we were seconds away and a stonewall pen decision from doing there wouldn't be these sorts of moronic posts. Let's trust McDermott - although the second half was poor yesterday there wasn't a massive margin between the sides and they've been in the PL for years now. A bit of perspective is required I think, although I fear anti-Mcdermott sentiment is starting to creep in. Let's give him some money in January and if we're still found wanting after that then I think it would be fair to assess his position

As I posted earlier, the margins between success and failure are very slim at this level, but how many times are we going to be unlucky or almost getting a point or win? After a while it's clear that we aren't converting losses to draws and draws to wins because what we're doing isn't working and not because a match official or freak of nature costs us.

[Hoop Blah]

Coppell had better players

Coppell built a better squad you mean?

He was fortunate to take over a good squad from Pardew but he worked wonders in spending very little to bring together those better players. That is very good management, even if he did cock it all up by remaining too loyal to them!

[Hoop Blah]

I think Brian's main failing this season is poor activity in the transfer window, there isn't really much that can be done with the current squad....

I agree on the first half of that statement, but the second half is one of those cliches that's being banded about quite a bit recently. Do you really think it's true though?

You don't think some of our players are playing below their potential? You don't think more could be squeezed out of the likes of Guthrie, Pogbregnyak or Kebe and McLeary?

I'm still fully behind Brian, it can take years of yo-yoing between the prem and Champ before prem status can be maintained - just look at where West Brom are now! We need a long term vision of stability and gradual improvement rather than wielding the axe every few months.

Despite my questioning of McDermott, and my long term dislike of his direct percentage football, I still largely agree with this. I'm not sure he's got the ability to manage better players and to compete at this level but I do think he's done enough in the past for the club for us to show him as much loyalty and respect as possible to prove it one way or another.

[Born 'n Bred Royal]

I think Brian's main failing this season is poor activity in the transfer window, there isn't really much that can be done with the current squad....

I agree on the first half of that statement, but the second half is one of those cliches that's being banded about quite a bit recently. Do you really think it's true though?

You don't think some of our players are playing below their potential? You don't think more could be squeezed out of the likes of Guthrie, Pogbregnyak or Kebe and McLeary?

[quote="Born 'n Bred Royal"]

You make a fair point here - I am very concerned about Pogbrenyak - he was billed as our messiah at the start of the season, the big name signing showing the ambition of TSI and where they want to take the club. However apart from one decent header against Chelsea and a goal against swansea which Vorm should have held, what has he done???

My main concern about Brian (although I still think hes the man for the job) is his inexperience at handling the new, more experienced PL players and the fact that Guthrie isn't being considered despite he's technically our best midfielder. i still think it's too early to wield the axe before the January transfer window. However if we lost both the Villa and Southampton games then my stance may start to change as there will almost be no way back without a miracle or some very shrewd acitivity in the transfer window.

[RoyalBlue]

I think Brian's main failing this season is poor activity in the transfer window, there isn't really much that can be done with the current squad....

I agree on the first half of that statement, but the second half is one of those cliches that's being banded about quite a bit recently. Do you really think it's true though?

You don't think some of our players are playing below their potential? You don't think more could be squeezed out of the likes of Guthrie, Pogbregnyak or Kebe and McLeary?

You make a fair point here - I am very concerned about Pogbrenyak - he was billed as our messiah at the start of the season, the big name signing showing the ambition of TSI and where they want to take the club. However apart from one decent header against Chelsea and a goal against swansea which Vorm should have held, what has he done???

My main concern about Brian (although I still think hes the man for the job) is his inexperience at handling the new, more experienced PL players and the fact that Guthrie isn't being considered despite he's technically our best midfielder. i still think it's too early to wield the axe before the January transfer window. However if we lost both the Villa and Southampton games then my stance may start to change as there will almost be no way back without a miracle or some very shrewd acitivity in the transfer window.

I think if we lose both the Villa and Saints games it will take a miracle and some very shrewd activity in the transfer window.

[winchester_royal]

Coppell had better players

Coppell built a better squad you mean?

He was fortunate to take over a good squad from Pardew but he worked wonders in spending very little to bring together those better players. That is very good management, even if he did cock it all up by remaining too loyal to them!

Lets not forget though that McDermott was chief scout while we were building that squad, and was influential behind the signings of Long and Doyle...

[Royal91]

We need to be more 'dirty and 'sneaky' on the pitch. By that I mean hack someone down and make a cynical foul late on when the game is open (within reason). Time waste a bit more and break up the play to slow the tempo.

[Caskeys Lovechild]

The supporters will almost be split in half...

I really just hope BM resigns instead of being sacked.
But then do I secretly want him to resign?

IF he went it would be a "mutual agreement". After what he has done, they will never come out & sack him. They will give him the push in as dignified a manner as possible. I would be properly gutted though I have to say.

There's literally been a rizla paper between us getting a result & not in more than half of the games. After all he has done, it is cruel he is being talked about like this.

If he'd lost in the play-offs, he would comfortably be in a job now & everyone would have given him a huge pat on the back for doing well with such a limited team.

The man has absolutely over achieved - way more than Coppell, Pardew & this is the thanks he gets.

Football is harsh, cruel & I hate the way this season is panning out.

FINALLY!!! Someone who gets it!!

This is absolutely it - and if he does end up going, I hope he royally shafts Anton, for enough money to keep him comfortable for the rest of his life, and diminishes our transfer pot significantly. Then I hope he goes off to manage a Cardiff, or a Leeds, and beats us on the last day of the season, to ruin our promotion hopes, and hands the opposition the joy of getting to the Premier League - it is absolutely the thanks that Reading FC as a whole, would deserve, for sacking someone for effectively "succeeding too quickly".

Last season, McDermott won the opportunity to manage in the Premier League - Win, Lose, Draw - Stay up, Go down, Crash spectacularly - whatever occurs, McDermott got us there from very little - and to my mind, he deserves the opportunity to see the project through - come what may.