by melonhead »
26 Nov 2012 17:22
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You are right, it isn’t the point.
The point is we operate within constraints which make a transfer success story extremely difficult, especially at this level.
Those arguing that this is a doomed policy are not advocating the abandoning of sense and regard for the club.
It’s rather irritating that this can’t be discussed without carrying the opponents proposition beyond its natural limit, creating a straw man or reframing the argument entirely, and I don’t see what is irrelevant or pointless in questioning the clubs approach, especially when it feels like a lesson we should have already learnt.
I appreciate that there will always be examples of high investment not showing a return and disastrous overspending leading to club instability, but when you have a foundation like ours, I don’t think a bit more ambition in the market would have resulted in either of these pessimistic prophecies.
Rather than searching for exceptions to support our current ineffective policy, we should be looking at our own examples and noticing that at this level, our policy has resulted in relegation.
You may have confidence in the rumour we spent our budget, but it doesn’t seem to hold water. And whatever twist and turn the argument takes it cannot avoid the simple fact that we were once again thrifty, and once again left wanting in quality.
It slips peoples minds that spending actually got us out of the championship in the first place. It doesn’t seem that much of a stretch to admit spending again might keep us from returning to it. We have an excellent base to build on, a team of grafters – adding a touch of class to this would surely have seen us bettering our current position. Sadly we cut corners and are faced with the reality that our new additions can barely break into the team we were supposed to be improving.
If that isn’t a relevant observation I’m not sure what is.
not a rumour. its a cast iron quote, on three seperate occasions, from three seperate sources/interviews
pretty clear imo.
doesnt make a blind bit of differece if that money isnt there and available, you can go on about the idea being doomed to fail, but t is what it is,
maybe theyre willing to risk relegation rather than the financial bother that saw us focedto sell half our squad last time we went down, take the parachute money, continue to build slowly and sustainably, and keep doing so,
i like the idea.
you dont
i agree to disagree
1) A quote repeated by Brian is hardly fact.--
not quite a rumour either is it, and i never called it a FACT 2) More to the point, if a bigger budget ISN'T there, surely it IS relevant to discuss that it should be?-
whats should got to do with it-the available money is the available money- whingeing that we need more is irrelevant and pointless 3) For someone who dislikes the idea of gambling, you seem quite easy about betting on us holding onto players and returning to the top flight so easily.-
whatever happens we will be in a decent position to continue our progression. & i thought all the players we bought were shit, why would anyone else want them?But yeah, we've never agreed on this to be fair. You think spending money on a player means the club explodes in a ball of flames, and that the minimum amount of players you buy in the transfer market is 20. Buying three or four good ones is ilegal and would result in the entire club and it's fans going to prison. .
except that is nothing like anything like wot i said- you are as guilty of cliched reactionary and daft arguments as you accuse me of being[/quote]
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