How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by RoyalBlue » 27 Nov 2012 22:42

SPARTA And now we must create more :lol:



No shyte bald Sherlock! It's taken that long for the penny to drop?! No wonder we are in the proverbial!

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by ManchesterRoyals » 27 Nov 2012 22:45

FFS BRIAN "KEEP GOING"

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Pepe the Horseman » 27 Nov 2012 22:49

Looks like a war's brewing between those that want RFC to stay up at all costs and those who want McDermott to stay at all costs.

I can't see anyone coming in and turning us into a team that can survive, but at the same time, Brian is making himself an easy target with some weak decisions.

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by Hoop Blah » 27 Nov 2012 22:50

That interview was, again, quite painful viewing.

I know he has to say something, and needs to keep it positive, but I'm a bit bemused as to why he thought we looked comfortable at the back and most likely to score the only goal during that second half.

It's all desperate stuff really.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Ian Royal » 27 Nov 2012 22:51

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What relevance does that have then*?

* I'm aware McDermott masterminded our promotion but comparing his sides competitiveness now with Rodgers has nothing to do with that IMO.

Utterly different expectations. Rodgers expected to consolidate mid-table in Championship before a strong promotion push. McDermott expected to compete to keep us in the PL. Rodgers actually took us into a Championship relegation fight. McDermott has us in the PL relegation fight most of us expected, just with far more ineptitude than most of us expected. McDermott has also proved he can achieve good things here, Rodgers didn't. Plus we're getting closer to winning games than under Rodgers and haven't been nearly as humiliated in as many league matches.

Of course McDermott gets more leeway. It's not the same thing in the slightest.


So nothing to do with the league we were in then? Just the level of expectation?

Expectation based on the league we are in. Fooking hell, has someone given you a lobotomy.


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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by RoyalBlue » 27 Nov 2012 22:53

Hoop Blah That interview was, again, quite painful viewing.

I know he has to say something, and needs to keep it positive, but I'm a bit bemused as to why he thought we looked comfortable at the back and most likely to score the only goal during that second half.

It's all desperate stuff really.


Reckon he's smoking the same stuff as that lot on the 'Calm' thread!

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by RoyalBlue » 27 Nov 2012 22:55

Pepe the Horseman Looks like a war's brewing between those that want RFC to stay up at all costs and those who want McDermott to stay at all costs.
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Yep, and we are going to give them a dose of 'shock and awe'! :wink:

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by MmmMonsterMunch » 27 Nov 2012 22:56

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Pepe the Horseman Looks like a war's brewing between those that want RFC to stay up at all costs and those who want McDermott to stay at all costs.
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Yep, and we are going to give them a dose of 'shock and awe'! :wink:


You do realise him going will have the same impact on the season though? I.e. relegation.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Royal Dee » 27 Nov 2012 23:05

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Pepe the Horseman Looks like a war's brewing between those that want RFC to stay up at all costs and those who want McDermott to stay at all costs.
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Yep, and we are going to give them a dose of 'shock and awe'! :wink:


You do realise him going will have the same impact on the season though? I.e. relegation.


Bit of a silly statement to make. Are you saying Brian is the best manager in the world? because there is plenty of BETTER managers being linked with us that could potentially turn it around, im not saying its garenteed but all we can do is try. FACT -McDermott is not doing well in this league.
Like einstien said, that doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results is insanity.


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by sandman » 27 Nov 2012 23:07

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Bit of a silly statement to make. Are you saying Brian is the best manager in the world? because there is plenty of BETTER managers being linked with us that could potentially turn it around, im not saying its garenteed but all we can do is try. FACT -McDermott is not doing well in this league.
Like einstien said, that doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results is insanity.


Really, who?

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Ian Royal » 27 Nov 2012 23:11

Early on McDermott's teams always look capable of falling apart totally and getting into relegation problems, or suddenly clicking and going on the rampage. Unfortunately, in the PL you don't given gifts by a couple of teams and then have the opportunity of punishing a bunch of your peers to go on that run that rockets you up the table. Because almost everyone is better than you.

He's not good at building a team with a plan. His style of football is terrible and largely his success is built almost exclusively on being one of the best squads in the division and mental strength.

His management this season is poor. His tactics are terrible. his team selection is poor. His strategy is poor. His signings have turned out to be, at best, mediocre. He's done a great job for us in the past, but I'm more and more convinced he's taking us down and that actually, he won't even do that well in the Championship next season.

But tbh, I just don't care whether he stays or goes right now, because I can't really see anything other than relegation from the position we've got our selves in either way.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Royal Dee » 27 Nov 2012 23:13

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Bit of a silly statement to make. Are you saying Brian is the best manager in the world? because there is plenty of BETTER managers being linked with us that could potentially turn it around, im not saying its garenteed but all we can do is try. FACT -McDermott is not doing well in this league.
Like einstien said, that doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results is insanity.


Really, who?


Advocaat for a start.

Then there is Curbishley, Steve bruce and Greame souness, Who have all got far better track records than brian in the premier league.
then you could look at young and up coming managers i.e Gus Poyet or Di Canio..

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Ian Royal » 27 Nov 2012 23:14

Graeme Souness!? GRAEME SH1TTY FOOKING SOUNESS!?!??!!?!


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by sandman » 27 Nov 2012 23:17

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Bit of a silly statement to make. Are you saying Brian is the best manager in the world? because there is plenty of BETTER managers being linked with us that could potentially turn it around, im not saying its garenteed but all we can do is try. FACT -McDermott is not doing well in this league.
Like einstien said, that doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results is insanity.


Really, who?


Advocaat for a start.

Then there is Curbishley, Steve bruce and Greame souness, Who have all got far better track records than brian in the premier league.
then you could look at young and up coming managers i.e Gus Poyet or Di Canio..


Advocaat is the only one who has, in your words, been "linked with" us and that was by the Russian version of The Sun.

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by MmmMonsterMunch » 27 Nov 2012 23:20

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Bit of a silly statement to make. Are you saying Brian is the best manager in the world? because there is plenty of BETTER managers being linked with us that could potentially turn it around, im not saying its garenteed but all we can do is try. FACT -McDermott is not doing well in this league.
Like einstien said, that doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results is insanity.


Really, who?


Yes please tell. WHO? I didn't say he was the best manager in the world.

Turn back the clock for one second....BM came in & all of a sudden he was draining every last drop of effort, desire, hunger and ability out of these players. We all thought wow!! These players, against all the odds then got promoted.

Ultimately we are now paying the price for being woefully short on quality. BM has tried to make a few shiny signings (albeit on the cheap) but in doing so has potentially upset the apple cart.

In hindsight, I actually think we'd have done better signing no one & keeping the 'spirit' as it was last season but we are where we are. He's tried to make some limited moves in the market but it's not worked. I don't think you can lay the blame at his feet entirely for that though. We have continued to be run in much as the same vein as the previous era & unfortunately the 'punts' haven't come good.

He doesn't deserve to go & I hope he fights it out.

They are 'his' group & I think the team spirit would be wrecked in an instant if he went.

Just my opinion though.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Norfolk Royal » 27 Nov 2012 23:20

Poyet is a good shout.

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by Lower West » 27 Nov 2012 23:22

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Bit of a silly statement to make. Are you saying Brian is the best manager in the world? because there is plenty of BETTER managers being linked with us that could potentially turn it around, im not saying its garenteed but all we can do is try. FACT -McDermott is not doing well in this league.
Like einstien said, that doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results is insanity.


Really, who?


Advocaat for a start.

Then there is Curbishley, Steve bruce and Greame souness, Who have all got far better track records than brian in the premier league.
then you could look at young and up coming managers i.e Gus Poyet or Di Canio..


Di Canio ?

The guy has a lot to learn as a manager. Would destroy the structure that Reading have created under Mad's tenure.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by grey_squirrel » 27 Nov 2012 23:24

Christ

What manager could come in (at this stage) and do any better with the dross we have?!

Assuming he played to the same-hoof-and-hope only create down the wings or from set pieces format who is he going to change?

Change LegsofWood/Tabb with who? Karacan when fit? Premiership quality? Nope. Guthrie? Nope can't play that way.

Wingers. McAnuff/HRK with who? McLeary? Championship at best. Kebe? Hahahahahahaha. I've got a runny nose, so sorry Boss I'm out for at least 4 weeks (as usual).

Forget it. McD/ Hammond/The Russians made our bed in the summer with the inexcusable lack of knowledge and foresight and now we are having to deal with it.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Big Ern » 27 Nov 2012 23:26

To be honest, with all the team spirit in the world, relegation is nailed on with this team.

His signings haven't worked, and only 1 of the 7 is contributing, that is Shorey who was a known quanity. We have to change things with the team drastically, however given that Brian fooked it up so much last time, I doubt he will be given the chance again in the next tranafer window.

If the board have decided that relegation is acceptable, then he should stay to try and get us back uop, however if we have intent on staying in this divison, the Board really have no choice but to replace him. This really is the true test to see how serious Anton is.

It will be a sad day when someone like Brian leaves the club, however we have no room for sympathy here. It is the club I support and not individuals.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by grey_squirrel » 27 Nov 2012 23:27

Lower West Di Canio ?

The guy has a lot to learn as a manager. Would destroy the structure that Reading have created under Mad's tenure.


That is completely not the issue here mate. Destroy the structure? Right here and now that is exactly what we need.

Though agree Di Canio is Not what we need.

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