TSI - The Promises, Policies & Progress Thread

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Re: TSI - The Promises, Policies & Progress Thread

by RoyalBlue » 25 Nov 2012 14:24

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"We also need to do some work on the internal infrastructure and training ground. They are basic things we need to improve on.

"Lately, other clubs are always improving their stadium and training ground and they are the basic things we need to concentrate on."


What about improving the frigging Team first :twisted:


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What happened to the man with deep pockets?

by Get Carter » 29 Nov 2012 18:24

McD is in the Chronicle today, talking about Gylfi & Long and that Reading fans need to be realistic and that very little funds are available - which probably means expect relegation as little Reading cannot compete in the premier league.
I seem to remember hearing Sir John saying he would only sell up to someone who had deep pockets and who could take us to the next level.
What exactly is going on and what is TSI/Anton going to do to keep us in the premier league?

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Re: What happened to the man with deep pockets?

by akranes » 29 Nov 2012 18:28

No oxf*rd clue, that's the main reason i'm annoyed.

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Re: What happened to the man with deep pockets?

by RoyalBlue » 29 Nov 2012 18:33

Get Carter McD is in the Chronicle today, talking about Gylfi & Long and that Reading fans need to be realistic and that very little funds are available - which probably means expect relegation as little Reading cannot compete in the premier league.
I seem to remember hearing Sir John saying he would only sell up to someone who had deep pockets and who could take us to the next level.
What exactly is going on and what is TSI/Anton going to do to keep us in the premier league?


Perhaps he's got even shorter arms than Madejski!

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Re: What happened to the man with deep pockets?

by melonhead » 29 Nov 2012 18:35

deepER pockets

longER arms


just not as deep or as long as you want


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Re: What happened to the man with deep pockets?

by andrew1957 » 29 Nov 2012 18:47

A bit harsh. The club decided to keep faith with 18 members of last seasons squad of 26 (8 left or finished loans) and added Morrison plus 7 news players making 26 again. Most of us were quite pleased with the summer business at the time.

It looks like they did not do enough now and I suspect we will add - particularly at CM in January and all Brian is doing is sensibly playing things down.

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Re: What happened to the man with deep pockets?

by melonhead » 29 Nov 2012 18:49

andrew1957 A bit harsh. The club decided to keep faith with 18 members of last seasons squad of 26 (8 left or finished loans) and added Morrison plus 7 news players making 26 again. Most of us were quite pleased with the summer business at the time.

It looks like they did not do enough now and I suspect we will add - particularly at CM in January and all Brian is doing is sensibly playing things down.



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Re: What happened to the man with deep pockets?

by Lovely hot donuts! » 29 Nov 2012 19:10

From reading bits and peices, my theory is that it was expected that Anton would have the assistance of papa Boris in funding the club, and that's why Sir John allowed it to happen, but now he isn't so keen to invest.

I have no idea if that it true but, seeing as their have been conflicting reports on whether or not family money would be used, it seems to make sense.

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Re: What happened to the man with deep pockets?

by redscot » 29 Nov 2012 19:29

Not so keen to invest? Odd. Anton has bought a club run sensible. Maybe he does not wish to splash his money around on signings that go nowhere. When all that is needed is a player or two like Roberts whom lifts up the other players.
If I was Anton, I would not waste money and anyway end up in Championship. Better to invest wisely in unknown players whom have the potential to become a "Long" player.


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Re: What happened to the man with deep pockets?

by Royal Rother » 29 Nov 2012 19:39

redscot Not so keen to invest? Odd. Anton has bought a club run sensible. Maybe he does not wish to splash his money around on signings that go nowhere. When all that is needed is a player or two like Roberts whom lifts up the other players.
If I was Anton, I would not waste money and anyway end up in Championship. Better to invest wisely in unknown players whom have the potential to become a "Long" player.


Yes, and the message could not have been delivered any stronger than it was that the ethos of the club, namely prudent financial management, would not change. They also clearly said that the biggest benefit of deeper pockets was that the club would not be forced to sell its best players every season simply to fill the financial black hole, not that mega millions would be chucked at the manager for squad strengthening.

Guess that didn't sink in with some.

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Re: TSI - The Promises, Policies & Progress Thread

by paultheroyal » 29 Nov 2012 19:53

Have it on good authority that a number of businesses owned by Sir John Madjeski have entered into administration. Hold onto your hats time.

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Re: TSI - The Promises, Policies & Progress Thread

by SPARTA » 29 Nov 2012 20:19

paultheroyal Have it on good authority that a number of businesses owned by Sir John Madjeski have entered into administration. Hold onto your hats time.


Why would we want to hold onto our hats? He sells his final 49% at the end of the season. It was his Sackville Properties that was struggling, but he sold his majority share in 2011. So what if other little ventures he has his hand in are going down the pan? it means nothing to Reading Football Club.

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Re: What happened to the man with deep pockets?

by SPARTA » 29 Nov 2012 20:35

Madejski kept saying "they" have deep pockets, and father and son do, but we are yet to see if daddy will put money in.

AZ and CS made it clear we were better off than we were under SJM but we would still maintain the same "ethos" and not spend outside out means.

Problem is, the fans expectations were raised, some got carried away, and then disappointment was and is always on the cards.

If you look at the signings we made, they would never have come here had we had SJM's backing only. Pog and Guthrie would have gone elsewhere. The others were the usual punts, so I'm sure they'd have come. But you can't say we haven't spent within the "ethos" and promise AZ gave us - also we do not for a 'fact' if there was more money to spend, but strong rumours were abound at the end of the transfer window to suggest we were after Zaha for around £4m, and it wasn't enough. That would mean Brian and Nicky wouldn't pay more than they felt Zaha was worth, and so we lost out. But if true, there was more to play with, but BM and NH held back.

I can't find any fault in what AZ has done here yet, or what he's promised us. You need to give it a lot more time yet.

We are already seeing improvements at the training ground. Michael Hector commented recently that every time he comes back the place looks completely different. Money needs to be spent all over the club, not just on the playing staff. People just don't have patience, and they also tend to swallow everything their manager tells them...


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Re: What happened to the man with deep pockets?

by CayeneMatt » 29 Nov 2012 20:54

^ Good post.

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Re: TSI - The Promises, Policies & Progress Thread

by Royal Rother » 29 Nov 2012 21:07

paultheroyal Have it on good authority that a number of businesses owned by Sir John Madjeski have entered into administration. Hold onto your hats time.


What good authority is that?

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Re: What happened to the man with deep pockets?

by Jay o/ » 29 Nov 2012 21:26

Yep, fantastic post!

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Re: TSI - The Promises, Policies & Progress Thread

by Jay o/ » 29 Nov 2012 21:29

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paultheroyal Have it on good authority that a number of businesses owned by Sir John Madjeski have entered into administration. Hold onto your hats time.


What good authority is that?


I doubt anyone on here knows what these little businesses are. It was in the papers a year or so ago that he was struggling. Some printing company was flagging, and Sackville's £400m development of Station Hill was binned, and as mentioned he sold his majority share. I don't see what any of this has to do with us.

Ideal TSI = All talk and no bollocks.


How so? Money is being spent all over the club. We spent a decent amount in the summer and there was more to use but the gaffer decided not to part with it. So because we didn't spend £20m it's not enough for you? I bet you're one of these idiot fans that wanted to see a £10m signing, like Southampton, and then you'd have felt we were being ambitious... :roll:

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Re: What happened to the man with deep pockets?

by Handsome Man » 29 Nov 2012 21:33

I thought we were in the Premiership and had been taken to the next level.

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Re: TSI - The Promises, Policies & Progress Thread

by Jay o/ » 29 Nov 2012 21:34

Excellent post from another thread I've copied to here:-

SPARTA Madejski kept saying "they" have deep pockets, and father and son do, but we are yet to see if daddy will put money in.

AZ and CS made it clear we were better off than we were under SJM but we would still maintain the same "ethos" and not spend outside out means.

Problem is, the fans expectations were raised, some got carried away, and then disappointment was and is always on the cards.

If you look at the signings we made, they would never have come here had we had SJM's backing only. Pog and Guthrie would have gone elsewhere. The others were the usual punts, so I'm sure they'd have come. But you can't say we haven't spent within the "ethos" and promise AZ gave us - also we do not for a 'fact' if there was more money to spend, but strong rumours were abound at the end of the transfer window to suggest we were after Zaha for around £4m, and it wasn't enough. That would mean Brian and Nicky wouldn't pay more than they felt Zaha was worth, and so we lost out. But if true, there was more to play with, but BM and NH held back.

I can't find any fault in what AZ has done here yet, or what he's promised us. You need to give it a lot more time yet.

We are already seeing improvements at the training ground. Michael Hector commented recently that every time he comes back the place looks completely different. Money needs to be spent all over the club, not just on the playing staff. People just don't have patience, and they also tend to swallow everything their manager tells them...


It'll make no difference to the likes of Ordeal.

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Re: What happened to the man with deep pockets?

by Divvy » 29 Nov 2012 21:36

Handsome Man I thought we were in the Premiership and had been taken to the next level.


Clearly not enough for some plebs on here.

Good post, Sparta.

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