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Re: Secret Footballer

by REMTARDROYAL » 30 Nov 2012 10:16

I have already heard the expression "Christmas is just around the corner" but, for a footballer, Christmas barely registers. At this time of the year, when the games are coming thick and fast and it feels like "Groundhog Day", it isn't Christmas that is keeping us awake at night. It is the countdown to the January transfer window.

For a lot of newly promoted teams, this is an exciting period because it is the first sign that you may have impressed enough in your fleeting Premier League career to be considered by other, more established, top-tier teams. But there are pitfalls for the rest of us that aren't on the move.

There are a couple of players who I will never forgive for the way they played for themselves instead of the team. When the fortunes of a certain club that we played for - and had made into a household name - suddenly found itself staring relegation in the face, these players did the worst thing that players who had attracted interest from more glamorous clubs in the previous window could do. They stopped trying.

They had been two of our most consistent performers for a couple of seasons and so I understood that there was the possibility of both losing form at the same time. But, as a player, you get to know when someone has lost form and confidence and when someone isn't tackling for fear of injury, isn't running as fast for fear of pulling a hamstring and isn't overly concerned when the team loses. It is this "pull the ladder up, Jack" behaviour that reeks of a player who knows that he is going to be "sorted" for next year, regardless of what happens in the short term.

For a long time, I blamed the manager for not pulling them sooner. He either didn't want to believe that two of his more important squad players - players who were nowhere on the football landscape before this club took them - would behave like this. Or he knew it would look very odd pulling both of them out of the team without explanation. If you think about it: how do you explain that two players aren't trying anymore because they know they are going to get moves in the summer? Where's the proof?

So I blamed the players; after all, it was they who were delivering substandard performances and leaving the rest of us out to dry. In all honesty, we may as well have fielded nine men for all the good they did us in those last few months. As it turned out, they did get their moves - more Premier League football, higher wages, international caps, the list goes on. With this proof, I felt comfortable for a long time that the blame lay with them and them alone.

But something has been nagging me for years. Maybe it wasn't those players' fault. After all, what player doesn't want to give himself the best opportunity to play for their country? And what player wouldn't want a bigger house and better education for their kids and the chance to pay off not only their own mortgage but also the mortgages of their parents and siblings?

No, I blame myself. In all honesty, I should have done something at the time. Although the immediate fall-out wouldn't have been pleasant, I would have been fined two weeks' wages and I'd certainly have lost my place in the side for a game or two, I'd be a more contented individual today if, at the time, I'd have pinned one of them to the changing-room wall.


I paid a lot because of these two, I paid a big price. But ask them if they care?


That really does feel like its about Reading, doesn't it?

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Re: Secret Footballer

by reading_fan » 30 Nov 2012 10:31

Kitson talking about Shorey and Sidwell?

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Re: Secret Footballer

by Wizard » 30 Nov 2012 10:32

Shorey and Hunt?

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Re: Secret Footballer

by REMTARDROYAL » 30 Nov 2012 10:33

Sidwell had already gone
Hunt lasted another season

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Re: Secret Footballer

by REMTARDROYAL » 30 Nov 2012 10:33

But I heard a rumor that halftime at that playoff game vs Burnley saw Kitson and Hunt almost come to blows.


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Re: Secret Footballer

by ZacNaloen » 30 Nov 2012 10:35

Kitson was struggling with form at the time as well tbf

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Re: Secret Footballer

by Vision » 30 Nov 2012 11:07

Shorey's only England caps came playing for us so that doesn't fit.
Sidwell had already gone.
Doyle and Hunt played a season of championship football so that doesn't really fit.
Kitson himself got to preserve his Premiership status the following season so it would be a bit rich (although not surprising from him) to complain about players that didn't actually move.

Think this might be one of those written by one of the others that wasn't Kitson. Either that or his memory is shot to pieces.

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Re: Secret Footballer

by TBM » 30 Nov 2012 11:12

Vision Shorey's only England caps came playing for us so that doesn't fit.
Sidwell had already gone.
Doyle and Hunt played a season of championship football so that doesn't really fit.
Kitson himself got to preserve his Premiership status the following season so it would be a bit rich (although not surprising from him) to complain about players that didn't actually move.

Think this might be one of those written by one of the others that wasn't Kitson. Either that or his memory is shot to pieces.


I can be Shorey as the "international" football comment could be for the other player.....it is probably Hunt, as it was pretty obvious he wanted to leave after we were relegated and maybe that move he was hoping for, or was promised by his agent didn't come about. Kitson did go, yes, but if the club was to accept a bid its pretty obvious the player will go as he knows the club wants to cash in.

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Re: Secret Footballer

by Vision » 30 Nov 2012 11:19

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Vision Shorey's only England caps came playing for us so that doesn't fit.
Sidwell had already gone.
Doyle and Hunt played a season of championship football so that doesn't really fit.
Kitson himself got to preserve his Premiership status the following season so it would be a bit rich (although not surprising from him) to complain about players that didn't actually move.

Think this might be one of those written by one of the others that wasn't Kitson. Either that or his memory is shot to pieces.


I can be Shorey as the "international" football comment could be for the other player.....it is probably Hunt, as it was pretty obvious he wanted to leave after we were relegated and maybe that move he was hoping for, or was promised by his agent didn't come about. Kitson did go, yes, but if the club was to accept a bid its pretty obvious the player will go as he knows the club wants to cash in.


Hunt could hardly have been described as one of the most consistent performers for the previous two seasons either really.

It's either not Kitson talking about us or it is but he's got it all wrong. Either way its a shoulder shrug from me.


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Re: Secret Footballer

by Hoop Blah » 30 Nov 2012 11:49

Feels just like Shorey and Hunt to me.

The facts might not all relate 100% to both players, but generally they ring true. Hunt got international football, more wages at Reading and then more Premier League football at a later date.

Shorey got the Premier League football straight away, and so the more wages etc, but not the further international recognition.

Hunt was a consistent performer, in the first team, for the 18 months previous to that window, and arguably was very consistent at coming off the bench for Convey the seasob before, but that's not what the point would be really.

It could be a number of other clubs and other players of course, but I wouldn't read too much into a bit of poetic licence and generalising in the writing.

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Re: Secret Footballer

by 11.30 from paddington » 30 Nov 2012 11:53

ZacNaloen Kitson was struggling with form at the time as well tbf


In our relegation season, Kitson was being linked with an England call-up. If I recall correctly he was also the top English scorer in the PL that season.

For what it's worth, I too think it's Shorey and Hunt.

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Re: Secret Footballer

by Hoop Blah » 30 Nov 2012 12:01

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ZacNaloen Kitson was struggling with form at the time as well tbf


In our relegation season, Kitson was being linked with an England call-up. If I recall correctly he was also the top English scorer in the PL that season.

For what it's worth, I too think it's Shorey and Hunt.


As the article says, there is also a difference between struggling for form and what others perceive as not trying.

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Re: Secret Footballer

by Vision » 30 Nov 2012 12:15

If it s Kitson then its simply him looking around for others to blame. His form and goals tailed off that season as well.

If it is Kitson then frankly he's got so much wrong in the article then as I said it's really not worth paying taking much notice of it.
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Re: Secret Footballer

by Ian Royal » 30 Nov 2012 12:24

reading_fan Kitson talking about Shorey and Sidwell?

Never Sidwell, he'd already gone and never stopped trying. Shorey and Hunt almost certainly. Maybe Sonko.

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Re: Secret Footballer

by Vision » 30 Nov 2012 12:45

Ian Royal
reading_fan Kitson talking about Shorey and Sidwell?

Never Sidwell, he'd already gone and never stopped trying. Shorey and Hunt almost certainly. Maybe Sonko.


Yeah I'd have liked to see Kitson try and pin Sonko to the dressing room wall.

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Re: Secret Footballer

by Alexander Litvinenko » 30 Nov 2012 16:50

A lot of it doesn't apply, but don't forget that Kitson and Lita absolutely hated each other and came to blows at various times.

Absolute chalk and cheese ....

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Re: Secret Footballer

by Uke » 30 Nov 2012 16:57

How many other message boards are debating as vigorously who the secret footballer is?

There may be a clue if it's just us...

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Re: Secret Footballer

by soggy biscuit » 30 Nov 2012 17:06

Alexander Litvinenko A lot of it doesn't apply, but don't forget that Kitson and Lita absolutely hated each other and came to blows at various times.

Absolute chalk and cheese ....


Not sure cheese is a colour m8

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Re: Secret Footballer

by Ian Royal » 30 Nov 2012 17:59

Alexander Litvinenko A lot of it doesn't apply, but don't forget that Kitson and Lita absolutely hated each other and came to blows at various times.

Absolute chalk and cheese ....

Lita was already shipped out for at least some of that season and was hardly a regular. He also hadn't been one of our best performers for two years or done enough to convince any bigger teams to come knocking at his doors. So it's clearly not Lita.

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Re: Secret Footballer

by Wimb » 01 Dec 2012 07:19

Ian Royal
Alexander Litvinenko A lot of it doesn't apply, but don't forget that Kitson and Lita absolutely hated each other and came to blows at various times.

Absolute chalk and cheese ....

Lita was already shipped out for at least some of that season and was hardly a regular. He also hadn't been one of our best performers for two years or done enough to convince any bigger teams to come knocking at his doors. So it's clearly not Lita.


Tbf to Lita he was linked with a fair few clubs in the summer after a good end to 06/07 and then a good U21 tournament with England. Still the whole international thing would seemingly rule him out.

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