How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by cmonurz » 04 Dec 2012 14:59

If I get a promotion at work and struggle with the additional work, I'd expect my position to come under scrutiny.

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by melonhead » 04 Dec 2012 15:50

:arrow: random thoughts on my job thread

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by melonhead » 04 Dec 2012 15:50

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melonhead i can say with some certainty that brian would have taken off a full back if hed been booked and was being roasted time and again by a winger, no matter when in the game

lol

i doubt that



and i doubt you know what youre on about

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Hoop Blah » 04 Dec 2012 15:53

EP, I'd disagree that McDermott hasn't had depth of talent to make such changes at times.

This season he's got a raft of similar quality players competing for places, eg Cummings & Gunter or the 4 centre forwards.

They might not be as good as Uniteds options but they are genuine competitors for places in the side so it's not like he's only got Nick Arnold on the bench to replace Gunter if he's having a shocker.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Ian Royal » 04 Dec 2012 17:34

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winchester_royal Substitutions also rely on the quality of players you're taking off though.

Yes United have better subs, but they have better players on the pitch to start with too.

I'm with Maffff, there's no way Mcd would ever haul a player off like that.


How do you know, though?

Lacking any kind of evidence (i.e. Brian being in a similar situation) I don't understand what the speculation is based on. It's like saying a vegitarian wouldn't like the taste of bacon.

He's been in similar situations. We've had players all over the shop from the kick off in the past and he's not made an early sub. The only time he'll do it is if there's an injury and he has to.

Mafff and winch are spot on.


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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by melonhead » 05 Dec 2012 10:20

no theyre not

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Divvy » 05 Dec 2012 12:00

melonhead no theyre not


Yes they are. Prove otherwise? BM doesn't like to upset the players. He's too nice, and it's one of his biggest downfalls IMO.

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by cmonurz » 05 Dec 2012 12:03

Divvy BM doesn't like to upset the players.


Not playing Guthrie because he passes it too much?
Not playing Pearce because he won't sign a new contract?

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by holsgrove breaks a leg » 05 Dec 2012 12:08

melonhead i can say with some certainty that brian would have taken off a full back if hed been booked and was being roasted time and again by a winger, no matter when in the game


Obviously Brian thought that Ian Harte was good enough to complete 90 minute horror shows in our biggest game of the season v Swansea in the playoff final and our worst defeat at home against Spurs this season then....


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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Divvy » 05 Dec 2012 12:19

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Divvy BM doesn't like to upset the players.


Not playing Guthrie because he passes it too much?
Not playing Pearce because he won't sign a new contract?


They spoke privately about what was expected of him. He went home unhappy and said too much publicly, then creating a problem that BM otherwise tried to prevent. Brian makes a point of telling the media that he likes to speak to the players and explain his decisions.

Not playing Pearce - well there are rumours that is partly down to Nicky Hammond advising we hold firm regarding our new contract offer. The manager, who here doesn't negotiate contracts remember, will always pick his best players unless there are reasons we are not aware of, so there may be some substance to those rumours.

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by Extended-Phenotype » 05 Dec 2012 13:29

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winchester_royal Substitutions also rely on the quality of players you're taking off though.

Yes United have better subs, but they have better players on the pitch to start with too.

I'm with Maffff, there's no way Mcd would ever haul a player off like that.


How do you know, though?

Lacking any kind of evidence (i.e. Brian being in a similar situation) I don't understand what the speculation is based on. It's like saying a vegitarian wouldn't like the taste of bacon.

He's been in similar situations. We've had players all over the shop from the kick off in the past and he's not made an early sub. The only time he'll do it is if there's an injury and he has to.

Mafff and winch are spot on.


It's like you've joined in half way through the conversation.

It's not similar, because the subs McD has available are not in the same class as Man U's. He doesn't have the luxury of dragging off one superstar and replacing him with another.

I don't think McD is mastering substitutions right now, but I'm not going to beat him with a sock filled with nothing but fantasy.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Get Carter » 05 Dec 2012 14:15

The majority of the goals we concede are on our right side or the opponents left wing.
Why didn't McD sign Connolly who proved a good player for us on loan at right back, but could also play CB?
I think we played 5 or 6 games with MC and did not concede a goal.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by melonhead » 05 Dec 2012 14:39

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melonhead no theyre not


Yes they are. Prove otherwise? BM doesn't like to upset the players. He's too nice, and it's one of his biggest downfalls IMO.


lol thats the point
no theyre not
prove otherwise


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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by melonhead » 05 Dec 2012 14:40

cmonurz
Divvy BM doesn't like to upset the players.


Not playing Guthrie because he passes it too much?
Not playing Pearce because he won't sign a new contract?



dropping every one of his favourites(roberts and ledge aside-and ledge only cos all our other midfielders are injured)

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by melonhead » 05 Dec 2012 14:41

beat him with a sock filled with nothing but fantasy
:lol:

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Extended-Phenotype » 05 Dec 2012 14:49

Well, he's got enough real criticisms to listen to, let alone us making shit up.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by TBM » 05 Dec 2012 15:08

Extended-Phenotype For a decent stab at 4-5-1 he's going to need Guthrie or Jem back in the mix.


Both i reckon

Leigertwood can then just sit in front of the back 4, passing it 5 yards like he likes to with Karacan and Guthrie ahead of him making the runs and the crossfield balls.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Extended-Phenotype » 05 Dec 2012 15:11

Be tempted to play a striker in a wide position; go two up front when in posession.

But that's a bit Football Manager.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by TBM » 05 Dec 2012 15:35

Extended-Phenotype Be tempted to play a striker in a wide position; go two up front when in posession.

But that's a bit Football Manager.


MCleary can do that but is never given a chance

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Extended-Phenotype » 05 Dec 2012 15:37

So can HRK. Shame we don't make use of winger/strikers as er, winkers?

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