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Re: Brian is staying according JM on BBCRB

by Once were Biscuitmen » 10 Dec 2012 17:23

noelgallagher
melonhead brian on record multiple times saying he spent the whole budget
AZ has given 10 million more than JM(or me, or you) could have given, and perhaps thats all he felt able to gamble.
not sure your in a position to judge what he should and shouldnt be gambling from his investors personal wealth.


I don't need to be in any sort of 'position' to know that for a team that last year punched above it's weight, entering the PL with a budget of £10m is not a gamble. It's just plain stupidity and quite frankly poor form from those running the club. Lessons were clearly not learned from the last time the club reached this level. If anything, it's a harder & far more difficult a league to remain in.


The aim is not to stay in the Premier league in our first season at any cost.

The funding required to give this squad a good chance of staying up is not available from our owners.

The risk of borrowing this money and then still being relegated are too great.

Sometimes you just have to play out a poor hand as best as you can and build for the future.

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by Royal91 » 10 Dec 2012 17:43

Can McDermott change our style over the next 5 years is the real the question? From boring rigid 4-4-2 to a more expansive 4-3-3/4-5-1.

I don't think he can.

We need a less arrogant Rodgers who is willing to throw in the long ugly ball now and again.

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Re: Brian is staying according JM on BBCRB

by Royal91 » 10 Dec 2012 17:49

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noelgallagher
melonhead brian on record multiple times saying he spent the whole budget
AZ has given 10 million more than JM(or me, or you) could have given, and perhaps thats all he felt able to gamble.
not sure your in a position to judge what he should and shouldnt be gambling from his investors personal wealth.


I don't need to be in any sort of 'position' to know that for a team that last year punched above it's weight, entering the PL with a budget of £10m is not a gamble. It's just plain stupidity and quite frankly poor form from those running the club. Lessons were clearly not learned from the last time the club reached this level. If anything, it's a harder & far more difficult a league to remain in.


The aim is not to stay in the Premier league in our first season at any cost.

The funding required to give this squad a good chance of staying up is not available from our owners.

The risk of borrowing this money and then still being relegated are too great.

Sometimes you just have to play out a poor hand as best as you can and build for the future.


Two different approaches in Southampton and Reading. We can judge what the better approach is/was in 3 years time.

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Re: Brian is staying according JM on BBCRB

by Alexander Litvinenko » 10 Dec 2012 17:52

andrew1957 Excellent post Cypry and I hope you are right. Cat 1 far more important than PL survival this season IMO.


What if neither is achieved?

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Re: Brian is staying according JM on BBCRB

by melonhead » 10 Dec 2012 17:58

noelgallagher
melonhead brian on record multiple times saying he spent the whole budget
AZ has given 10 million more than JM(or me, or you) could have given, and perhaps thats all he felt able to gamble.
not sure your in a position to judge what he should and shouldnt be gambling from his investors personal wealth.


I don't need to be in any sort of 'position' to know that for a team that last year punched above it's weight, entering the PL with a budget of £10m is not a gamble. It's just plain stupidity and quite frankly poor form from those running the club. Lessons were clearly not learned from the last time the club reached this level. If anything, it's a harder & far more difficult a league to remain in.



its all brians fault
but he was only given 10 million to spend
owner should have spent more
he only had ten million he felt he could give

who do you blame next?

sometimes things just are. and no one is to blame.


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by melonhead » 10 Dec 2012 18:01

Ian Royal You can't say we're trying to establish as Prem within 5 years and then blame being relegation certainties on punching above your weight.

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in no way are those two mutallu exclusive, so i see no reason why you cant say both things

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by melonhead » 10 Dec 2012 18:02

Royal91 Can McDermott change our style over the next 5 years is the real the question? From boring rigid 4-4-2 to a more expansive 4-3-3/4-5-1.

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played that way perfectly well when we had the player to do so

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by Avon Royal » 10 Dec 2012 18:02

melonhead
noelgallagher
melonhead brian on record multiple times saying he spent the whole budget
AZ has given 10 million more than JM(or me, or you) could have given, and perhaps thats all he felt able to gamble.
not sure your in a position to judge what he should and shouldnt be gambling from his investors personal wealth.


I don't need to be in any sort of 'position' to know that for a team that last year punched above it's weight, entering the PL with a budget of £10m is not a gamble. It's just plain stupidity and quite frankly poor form from those running the club. Lessons were clearly not learned from the last time the club reached this level. If anything, it's a harder & far more difficult a league to remain in.



its all brians fault
but he was only given 10 million to spend
owner should have spent more
he only had ten million he felt he could give

who do you blame next?

sometimes things just are. and no one is to blame.


It's the Reading Way.............

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Re: Brian is staying according JM on BBCRB

by melonhead » 10 Dec 2012 18:04

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noelgallagher I don't need to be in any sort of 'position' to know that for a team that last year punched above it's weight, entering the PL with a budget of £10m is not a gamble. It's just plain stupidity and quite frankly poor form from those running the club. Lessons were clearly not learned from the last time the club reached this level. If anything, it's a harder & far more difficult a league to remain in.


The aim is not to stay in the Premier league in our first season at any cost.

The funding required to give this squad a good chance of staying up is not available from our owners.

The risk of borrowing this money and then still being relegated are too great.

Sometimes you just have to play out a poor hand as best as you can and build for the future.


Two different approaches in Southampton and Reading. We can judge what the better approach is/was in 3 years time.



not really a case of judging

saints build from a bigger base than ours, and their super rich owners have the money available, and dont mind throwing it away.
ours dont. not comparable, since the different approach isnt a matter of choice


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Re: Brian is staying according JM on BBCRB

by melonhead » 10 Dec 2012 18:05

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noelgallagher I don't need to be in any sort of 'position' to know that for a team that last year punched above it's weight, entering the PL with a budget of £10m is not a gamble. It's just plain stupidity and quite frankly poor form from those running the club. Lessons were clearly not learned from the last time the club reached this level. If anything, it's a harder & far more difficult a league to remain in.



its all brians fault
but he was only given 10 million to spend
owner should have spent more
he only had ten million he felt he could give

who do you blame next?

sometimes things just are. and no one is to blame.


It's the Reading Way.............


its the way it is

and all the pissing and moaning in the world isnt going to change it

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by Royal91 » 10 Dec 2012 18:06

@Cypry. Are you able to give us an indication of when our EPPP category status will be awarded? As multiple teams have been granted their status. Yes I agree if we can get Cat 1 that is far more important than staying up this year.

Does anyone know when the EPPP will actually get implemented? When all 92 teams get graded?

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by Avon Royal » 10 Dec 2012 18:10

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its all brians fault
but he was only given 10 million to spend
owner should have spent more
he only had ten million he felt he could give

who do you blame next?

sometimes things just are. and no one is to blame.


It's the Reading Way.............


its the way it is

and all the pissing and moaning in the world isnt going to change it


Maybe it will, maybe it won't - but for the good of the club we need to try.

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Re: Brian is staying according JM on BBCRB

by Rex » 10 Dec 2012 18:27

The best a person can do to influence anything is to stay away from a match. The worst i have seen it is when the away support is lost and start physically fighting. Entertaining i suppose but certainly non motivational for all concerned.


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Re: Brian is staying according JM on BBCRB

by melonhead » 10 Dec 2012 18:36

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Avon Royal It's the Reading Way.............


its the way it is

and all the pissing and moaning in the world isnt going to change it


Maybe it will, maybe it won't - but for the good of the club we need to try.

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try what?

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Re: Brian is staying according JM on BBCRB

by akranes » 10 Dec 2012 18:38

After a million mood swings, attempted murders and rants.

I think McDermott should stay, <3.


Wait, wait no, he should leave. And stay.

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Re: Brian is staying according JM on BBCRB

by Born 'n Bred Royal » 10 Dec 2012 18:42

I agree with JM - but McDermott needs money to turn it around in Jan. However, never again do I want to see a performance as toothless as the one on Saturday.

And all the tossers calling for his head need to have a reality check. This time last year we weren't even in the playoff positions, we've spent next to nothing and our heaviest defeat this year has been 4-2 and 3-1 respectively against two world class sides.

Personally i think the players should bear some of the responsibility - where was McAnuff on saturday when we needed a bit of leadership? A few of the players ie Guthrie have shown unprofessionalism and disrespect to the team with their comments and attitude, which is unacceptable when you're being paid thousands every bloody week.

Much the same, i will be very pissed off if we don't spend in January as there is a clear need for investment.

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Re: Brian is staying according JM on BBCRB

by Ascotexgunner » 10 Dec 2012 18:59

None thinks this is the dreaded vote of confidence do they? I mean a loss at Sunderland is gonna be a massive hammer blow.

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by akranes » 10 Dec 2012 19:02

Ascotexgunner None thinks this is the dreaded vote of confidence do they? I mean a loss at Sunderland is gonna be a massive hammer blow.


If there was ever a vote of confidence, it would have been Anton's announcement on BBC. Although I get the feeling he's a bit too naive with the media.

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by Rex » 10 Dec 2012 19:05

Ascotexgunner None thinks this is the dreaded vote of confidence do they? I mean a loss at Sunderland is gonna be a massive hammer blow.


It's usually the kiss of death when the vote of confidence and the pat on the back is trotted out. The supporters might sadly hold more sway in this situation. It will not be fun at Sunderland should we put in another display like Southampton. It sticks in my craw when those playing pass the parcel miss out and have a foot stamping session.

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Re: Brian is staying according JM on BBCRB

by Avon Royal » 10 Dec 2012 19:10

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its the way it is

and all the pissing and moaning in the world isnt going to change it


Maybe it will, maybe it won't - but for the good of the club we need to try.

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try what?


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