by Royal Lady » 11 Dec 2012 12:22
by winchester_royal » 11 Dec 2012 12:26
melonheadwinchester_royalmelonhead
5 million quid
6 positions require filling
who would yopu have bought?
which positions would you not bother to fill?
Sorry Brendy, but you can't possibly claim this summer was a successful one.
Gunter - No improvement on Cummings, 2.5m spent, doesn't get in team
Mariappa - I like him, but he hasn't played regularly and is no improvement on Pearce
Shorey - The one good signing, but even he has made mistakes
Guthrie - Doesn't play
Pog - Benched for the last few weeks, has looked immobile and doesn't fit our style. Highest earner in our history but certainly not the highest in terms of achievement.
McCleary - 4th choice winger, okay but no improvement on the other 3
Individually as players they are all decent, but we needed more than that. We needed players who would take us to another level.
As it is, we are no better than we were last season.
disagree with last statement
and i repeat.
5 million to spend.
6 positions to fill
who would you have bought
which positions would you not have bothered to fill
melonheadnoelgallaghermelonhead brian on record multiple times saying he spent the whole budget
AZ has given 10 million more than JM(or me, or you) could have given, and perhaps thats all he felt able to gamble.
not sure your in a position to judge what he should and shouldnt be gambling from his investors personal wealth.
I don't need to be in any sort of 'position' to know that for a team that last year punched above it's weight, entering the PL with a budget of £10m is not a gamble. It's just plain stupidity and quite frankly poor form from those running the club. Lessons were clearly not learned from the last time the club reached this level. If anything, it's a harder & far more difficult a league to remain in.
its all brians fault
but he was only given 10 million to spend
owner should have spent more
he only had ten million he felt he could give
who do you blame next?
sometimes things just are. and no one is to blame.
by cmonurz » 11 Dec 2012 12:41
by winchester_royal » 11 Dec 2012 12:57
cmonurz Really grates me when someone says McDermott got £10m to spend.
He got £5m (or thereabouts.
Every club incurs wages, to represent McDermott's 'transfer budget' you should only look at the marginal amount he realistically had to spend on transfer fees.
by larry1971 » 11 Dec 2012 12:58
Royal Lady I heard part of the JM interview on BBCRB this morning and he clearly said that AZ gets involved in who McD should be buying but that he (JM) didn't ever do that. If McD is happy with that, then he's an idiot. Why would AZ think he knows more than the manager? Plus, JM said Nicky Hammond was in Moscow looking at a couple of players for January. :roll
by Silver Fox » 11 Dec 2012 13:09
Lacoste Your forget everyone, even if melonheads mum was raped by a member of the RFC board/coaching staff, he would still support them.
by andrew1957 » 11 Dec 2012 13:39
by Webster750 » 11 Dec 2012 13:50
andrew1957 The Brian hate is ridiculous. However, either a/ he was offered loads of money to strengthen and bizarrely turned it down or b/ he was given 3M net to spend on players (5M less 2M recouped in sales) plus a few million for signing on fees and wages.
If the former then he is an idiot.
If (far more likely) the latter then I think he did well in the transfer market. 90% of us were happy with the signings at the time. He had to fill 6 positions and he did that. The players he brought in were much better than the players we let go. Every purchase is a risk and some take time to come good. I think several of the players will be huge for us in the Championship next season - Mariappa, McCleary, maybe Gunter, maybe Shorey (if we can get him to stay), maybe Pog (although I would expect him to leave).
What is for sure is that our Championship squad for 2013/14 will be MUCH better than our Championship winning squad of 2011/12.
by Royal Lady » 11 Dec 2012 13:51
larry1971Royal Lady I heard part of the JM interview on BBCRB this morning and he clearly said that AZ gets involved in who McD should be buying but that he (JM) didn't ever do that. If McD is happy with that, then he's an idiot. Why would AZ think he knows more than the manager? Plus, JM said Nicky Hammond was in Moscow looking at a couple of players for January. :roll
problem is that's pretty much the way football is today the days of when the manager had the power over transfers is now pretty much over with the exception of a few clubs transfers are now delt with by a director of football which I belive is how things are done at most of Europes other leagues.
by melonhead » 11 Dec 2012 14:25
Royal Lady I heard part of the JM interview on BBCRB this morning and he clearly said that AZ gets involved in who McD should be buying but that he (JM) didn't ever do that. If McD is happy with that, then he's an idiot. Why would AZ think he knows more than the manager? Plus, JM said Nicky Hammond was in Moscow looking at a couple of players for January. :roll
by melonhead » 11 Dec 2012 14:27
winchester_royalmelonheadwinchester_royal Sorry Brendy, but you can't possibly claim this summer was a successful one.
Gunter - No improvement on Cummings, 2.5m spent, doesn't get in team
Mariappa - I like him, but he hasn't played regularly and is no improvement on Pearce
Shorey - The one good signing, but even he has made mistakes
Guthrie - Doesn't play
Pog - Benched for the last few weeks, has looked immobile and doesn't fit our style. Highest earner in our history but certainly not the highest in terms of achievement.
McCleary - 4th choice winger, okay but no improvement on the other 3
Individually as players they are all decent, but we needed more than that. We needed players who would take us to another level.
As it is, we are no better than we were last season.
disagree with last statement
and i repeat.
5 million to spend.
6 positions to fill
who would you have bought
which positions would you not have bothered to fill
Odd question. I don't have a scouting system at my side, nor do I know the availability/price of certain players.
All I'm saying is that the players we brought in have not improved the group to anywhere near the extent we needed them to. The budget was not 5m, it was clearly a fair bit more given the agent/signing fees we'd have needed to pay to secure the likes of Pog/Guth.
I'd rather we'd brought in 2 players that would have added real quality, than 6 players who are very similar in quality to those that were already here.
by Royal Lady » 11 Dec 2012 14:28
by melonhead » 11 Dec 2012 14:29
Lacostemelonheadnoelgallagher I don't need to be in any sort of 'position' to know that for a team that last year punched above it's weight, entering the PL with a budget of £10m is not a gamble. It's just plain stupidity and quite frankly poor form from those running the club. Lessons were clearly not learned from the last time the club reached this level. If anything, it's a harder & far more difficult a league to remain in.
its all brians fault
but he was only given 10 million to spend
owner should have spent more
he only had ten million he felt he could give
who do you blame next?
sometimes things just are. and no one is to blame.
Your forget everyone, even if melonheads mum was raped by a member of the RFC board/coaching staff, he would still support them.
by melonhead » 11 Dec 2012 14:31
cmonurz Really grates me when someone says McDermott got £10m to spend.
He got £5m (or thereabouts.
Every club incurs wages, to represent McDermott's 'transfer budget' you should only look at the marginal amount he realistically had to spend on transfer fees.
by melonhead » 11 Dec 2012 14:33
Royal Ladylarry1971Royal Lady I heard part of the JM interview on BBCRB this morning and he clearly said that AZ gets involved in who McD should be buying but that he (JM) didn't ever do that. If McD is happy with that, then he's an idiot. Why would AZ think he knows more than the manager? Plus, JM said Nicky Hammond was in Moscow looking at a couple of players for January. :roll
problem is that's pretty much the way football is today the days of when the manager had the power over transfers is now pretty much over with the exception of a few clubs transfers are now delt with by a director of football which I belive is how things are done at most of Europes other leagues.
Yes, thank you, I know what a Director of Football (Nicky Hammond) does - I was pointing out the comment that Anton, who is not yet our chairman, but the major shareholder, is getting involved in who McD should be buying and how JM gave the impression that he wasn't keen on that.
by larry1971 » 11 Dec 2012 15:39
Royal Ladylarry1971Royal Lady I heard part of the JM interview on BBCRB this morning and he clearly said that AZ gets involved in who McD should be buying but that he (JM) didn't ever do that. If McD is happy with that, then he's an idiot. Why would AZ think he knows more than the manager? Plus, JM said Nicky Hammond was in Moscow looking at a couple of players for January. :roll
problem is that's pretty much the way football is today the days of when the manager had the power over transfers is now pretty much over with the exception of a few clubs transfers are now delt with by a director of football which I belive is how things are done at most of Europes other leagues.Yes, thank you, I know what a Director of Football (Nicky Hammond) does - I was pointing out the comment that Anton, who is not yet our chairman, but the major shareholder, is getting involved in who McD should be buying and how JM gave the impression that he wasn't keen on that.melonhead [
giving opinions, offering to buy players for him =/= dictating who he should buy
by Hoop Blah » 11 Dec 2012 15:44
melonhead totakl budget was 10 million for fees and wages.
by melonhead » 11 Dec 2012 16:01
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