How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

[Badger Finger]

I will always love Brian, and what he's achieved at Reading, he could move on to become manager of Aldershot, and I'd still shake his hand.

But... Tonight was one of ther most tactically inept performances I've ever seen. Ripped to pieces time and time again by, this season's standards, a very average team. Insistence on playing a midfielder whose second touch is a tackle, and the only completed passes were to the ball boy behind their goal, and was so far off the pace, Stephen Hawking would have beaten him in a game of pictionary.

Brian, sorry mate, you''ve reached your limit with this bunch of workhorses. Time for someone new to come in and work miracles. Maybe even someone with three most un-reading like, Plan B.

I'll never quite admire them as much though...

[Royal Rother]

I am struggling to find a way to describe that, everything has gone, Arsenal could and should have scored ten. Saturday at the Etihad could get really, really ugly. Poor old Brian he has seen his stock go from one of football's up and coming managers to being not worth the suit on his back. It is tragic, but it is there for all to see that he has completely lost the spirit that propelled us to promotion; he needs to move on and try to re-build his dignity, it just is getting too embarrassing to witness.

That could easily have been a PL record score tomight, painful to watch, we really need some fresh blood inside this club now.

The person who needs to be replaced is the one who coaches the defense. If that's BM, sobeit.

[windermere_royal]

A Portsmouth fan on TalkSport just spoke more sense than the majority of posters on this thread put together. He gets it.

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[Who Moved The Goalposts?]

A Portsmouth fan on TalkSport just spoke more sense than the majority of posters on this thread put together. He gets it.

What did he say?

[windermere_royal]

I am struggling to find a way to describe that, everything has gone, Arsenal could and should have scored ten. Saturday at the Etihad could get really, really ugly. Poor old Brian he has seen his stock go from one of football's up and coming managers to being not worth the suit on his back. It is tragic, but it is there for all to see that he has completely lost the spirit that propelled us to promotion; he needs to move on and try to re-build his dignity, it just is getting too embarrassing to witness.

That could easily have been a PL record score tomight, painful to watch, we really need some fresh blood inside this club now.

The person who needs to be replaced is the one who coaches the defense. If that's BM, sobeit.

there is actually a out of work defensive coach just left West ham right now.

[Archie's penalty]

I will always love Brian, and what he's achieved at Reading, he could move on to become manager of Aldershot, and I'd still shake his hand.

But... Tonight was one of ther most tactically inept performances I've ever seen. Ripped to pieces time and time again by, this season's standards, a very average team. Insistence on playing a midfielder whose second touch is a tackle, and the only completed passes were to the ball boy behind their goal, and was so far off the pace, Stephen Hawking would have beaten him in a game of pictionary.

Brian, sorry mate, you''ve reached your limit with this bunch of workhorses. Time for someone new to come in and work miracles. Maybe even someone with three most un-reading like, Plan B.

I'll never quite admire them as much though...

Hey mate, glad to see you back. And yes he really has to go.

[Royal Lady]

I do wonder whether he really wasn't given much money in the close season and whether he knows he's got next to nothing in January - and AZ told him at beginning of season that he wouldn't give him much money, but his job would be safe. So he's just trying to make do - I expect it was AZ who wanted him to sign Pog purely cos of the Russian connection - McD has the arse about it all now and so has sent a message to AZ by not playing him recently.

Still doesn't explain why he's continually sticking by Legs though.

[howser]

No longer !! after that disgraceful display of a spiritless, gutless performance a team full of players that are light years away from premiership ability, do we have a defensive coach ???? the usual pathetic "hoof ball" this together with classless inept displays from the McDermott "Love children" Gorks, Ledge, Tabb, Kebe how the hell he can class any of those as good enough for the top league. its squarly on his head the, Shorey apart, disasterous summer signings, clueless tactics the list goes on he has to GO NOW !!!

[Alan Partridge]

Gary Neville just perfectly summed that game up and in a roundabout way of doing slated McDermott and rightly so. The tactics from the off were kamikaze, pure stupidity. The team selection again made ZERO sense and the end result was an absolute slaughter. That should have been 10 or 11 for Arsenal.

Not going to repeat everything Neville said because there's no point but you have to give yourself a chance in a game. When you play the likes of Arsenal the only way a small club can get something is parking the bus, being tough, in their faces and make it a scrap. Playing 4-4-2, open and gung ho was just idiocy and it's the manager's fault there. People will have a go at Tabb and Leigertwood but they are in there against Cazorla, Wilshere and Arteta with Podolski and Oxlade-Chamberlain cutting in and making it a 5. They were never given a hope. Reading only had a tiny bit of control in the game for 10 minutes in the 2nd half once he took the strikers off and went 5 v 5. It's not negative to start like that, it's sensible and it's what every team does v Arsenal/City who play the way they do.

The players aren't good enough everyone knows that but the manager is giving them no hope in games like tonight, like Neville said it was actually 'sad' watching it. arsenal looked like scoring everytime they got the ball as they hopelessly outnumbered Reading's midfield and slaughtered them out wide.

The players aren't good enough but the manager despite being a nice bloke en all is even more out of his depth than they are. But hey you all saw 7 goals so you can't complain.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Why do we think we can play 4-4-2 all the fcuking time?

Even Dellor has turned now!

My god at this point just make us hard to beat!!! Fcuk trying to score - play 5-5-0 if necessary.

[cmonurz]

A lot of my opinion gets lost in discussions about particular players or formations or whatever. But ultimately the two frustrating and depressing things this season have been first our complete tactical ineptness, and lack of plan B, and secondly the absolutely turgid football that we have played week in, week out.

[Ian Royal]

Neville's half time break down of our defence highlighted that little square of empty space for attackers we like to leave just outside out six yard box I've mentioned on and off since the start of the season. Obviously as a trained professional he went into more detail and covered several more issues as well, but it's just so painfully obvious to see.

[Maguire]

Gary Neville just perfectly summed that game up and in a roundabout way of doing slated McDermott and rightly so. The tactics from the off were kamikaze, pure stupidity. The team selection again made ZERO sense and the end result was an absolute slaughter. That should have been 10 or 11 for Arsenal.

Not going to repeat everything Neville said because there's no point but you have to give yourself a chance in a game. When you play the likes of Arsenal the only way a small club can get something is parking the bus, being tough, in their faces and make it a scrap. Playing 4-4-2, open and gung ho was just idiocy and it's the manager's fault there. People will have a go at Tabb and Leigertwood but they are in there against Cazorla, Wilshere and Arteta with Podolski and Oxlade-Chamberlain cutting in and making it a 5. They were never given a hope. Reading only had a tiny bit of control in the game for 10 minutes in the 2nd half once he took the strikers off and went 5 v 5. It's not negative to start like that, it's sensible and it's what every team does v Arsenal/City who play the way they do.

The players aren't good enough everyone knows that but the manager is giving them no hope in games like tonight, like Neville said it was actually 'sad' watching it. arsenal looked like scoring everytime they got the ball as they hopelessly outnumbered Reading's midfield and slaughtered them out wide.

The players aren't good enough but the manager despite being a nice bloke en all is even more out of his depth than they are. But hey you all saw 7 goals so you can't complain.

Yep. That's really the expansion of my post which said we showed once again how not to play against Arsenal.

[Pepe the Horseman]

Not gonna happen guys.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

The sad thing is that at this point, the current squad & management team has been irrevocably damaged now IMO. Wholesale changes needed next season to have any hope of bouncing back. Worrying to be honest as if we don't, we could freefall after this debacle of a season.

[Pepe the Horseman]

A Portsmouth fan on TalkSport just spoke more sense than the majority of posters on this thread put together. He gets it.

He said we chose to go with what we've got, which is bullshit as we signed seven players over the summer.

[Royal Rother]

A Portsmouth fan on TalkSport just spoke more sense than the majority of posters on this thread put together. He gets it.

What did he say?

Basically contrasting Reading's approach with that of other clubs who spend too much money and scupper the future. BM is doing a job with what he's got and it'd be wrong to sack him when he's running the team on a shoestring, at the behest of the owners - it'd be fine for Reading to go down, pocket the parachute payments and reinvest / build a squad ready to go straight back up. It's a reasonable way of building the club up. Nothing wrong doing a WBA. Better than doing a Portsmouth.

Something like that.

[cmonurz]

You want us to spend £15m next season?

[Alan Partridge]

The real problem is there is no point spending loads of money in January now, the damage is too severe. Even if Sir alex got bored and fancied the job Reading are down. So you spend a ton of cash only to go down anyway leaving the club in financial dire straits in the summer. January should be used to try and get 1 or 2 of the championships best players and get everyone whose not required next year whose on big money out the door.

[leon]

The sad thing is that at this point, the current squad & management team has been irrevocably damaged now IMO. Wholesale changes needed next season to have any hope of bouncing back. Worrying to be honest as if we don't, we could freefall after this debacle of a season.

yes this is the problem. If this was Mar/April and we were about to be relegated remaining humpings wouldn't damage us nearly as much another 5 months.