Pog Ponders Talks

[Divvy]

Can't believe the bullshit I'm reading about Pog being so awful tonight. He was the only player showing any quality on the few occasions we managed to get the ball anywhere near him. You can't really judge a striker when they're playing in a piss poor team that creates nothing. He created a first half chance for Kebe and he linked play up well. The guy is too good for the crap the other ten on the pitch produced tonight.

Yeah I thought he did OK considering the lack of service yet again. Hunt was woeful but for a couple of flick-ons. McAnuff dire. Leigertwood, oh my fcuking days! Plenty worse out there.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Can't believe the bullshit I'm reading about Pog being so awful tonight. He was the only player showing any quality on the few occasions we managed to get the ball anywhere near him. You can't really judge a striker when they're playing in a piss poor team that creates nothing. He created a first half chance for Kebe and he linked play up well. The guy is too good for the crap the other ten on the pitch produced tonight.

Huge + 1 & I've thought that for the entire season. Playing around players of a lesser quality each week will do your head in eventually regardless of the £ you take home.

[blueroyals]

+1

People saying Roberts should be playing don't have a clue. At least Pog actually looks like scoring.

[Vision]

When he did he look like scoring?

The bloke basically gave up after 20 minutes or so. Stopped making any kind of positive run. Twice Shorey looked to play the ball into space where he should have run into and on both occasions he didn't bother. If he's going to sulk about poor service whilst playng for a side at the bottom of the league yet not continue to make positive runs then he's absolutely no oxf*rd use to us.

He may possess more ability and pedigree than the others but it's not worth much if he doesn't give a shit.

[melonhead]

When he did he look like scoring?

The bloke basically gave up after 20 minutes or so. Stopped making any kind of positive run. Twice Shorey looked to play the ball into space where he should have run into and on both occasions he didn't bother. If he's going to sulk about poor service whilst playng for a side at the bottom of the league yet not continue to make positive runs then he's absolutely no oxf*rd use to us.

He may possess more ability and pedigree than the others but it's not worth much if he doesn't give a shit.

agreed- was pleased with his performance in the first twenty- looked positive, up for it, and sharp. worked very hard.

as soon as the goal went in he stopped trying.


i dont mind getting dicked every week(well, i do but....) but what i cannot take is players not trying 100% for 90 minutes

[Super Kevin Bremner!]

He may possess more ability and pedigree than the others but it's not worth much if he doesn't give a shit.

Lazy overrated 50% effort luxury players have a habit of being idolized among "fans" on HNA.
Just see mediocre matejovsky and gutless guthrie for other examples of this.

Some people, such as yourself, just aren't football people, and that's why you don't understand why or how players perform well in a game.

It's really not your fault. You just don't get football.

[Royal With Cheese]

When you have limited ability (Parkinson, Tabb) you have to make up for it with total commitment. We all love a trier. The Pog will score goals if he gets a bit of help. As it stands, he's not going to get anything other than scraps in this team at the moment.

[Vision]

When you have limited ability (Parkinson, Tabb) you have to make up for it with total commitment. We all love a trier. The Pog will score goals if he gets a bit of help. As it stands, he's not going to get anything other than scraps in this team at the moment.

In the first 20 mins or so when he was a threat, he proved that he and we needn't necessarily feed on scraps. If he'd continued in that vein rather than simply throw in the towel then I think you're right but sadly he didn't. I'm not expecting him to to chase down keepers and hassle centre halves all game but he completely stopped making runs and showing for the ball and basically hid.

To give him the benefit of the doubt he hasn't played much football recently and allegedly has been carrying an injury so perhaps he was trying to manage his game a bit. Either way it was right to take him off and once we had a forward making forward runs again we started to threaten a bit again.

[Hoop Blah]

When he did he look like scoring?

The bloke basically gave up after 20 minutes or so. Stopped making any kind of positive run. Twice Shorey looked to play the ball into space where he should have run into and on both occasions he didn't bother. If he's going to sulk about poor service whilst playng for a side at the bottom of the league yet not continue to make positive runs then he's absolutely no oxf*rd use to us.

He may possess more ability and pedigree than the others but it's not worth much if he doesn't give a shit.

Don't often disagree with your views on the game Vision, but I think that's a very harsh appraisal of his contribution.

I, like SKB, thought he put in a good shift and looked one of the few players capable of keeping the ball or doing anything with it. I saw him making a number of unseen runs when the likes of Tabb or Leigertwood were on the ball and was in a couple of very good positions in space to receive the ball when Kebe got his final balls wrong (he linked up quite well with him at times).

I'm sure he ran out of puff in the second half yes. But I think he played pretty well.

[moonwalklikebas]

Can't believe the bullshit I'm reading about Pog being so awful tonight. He was the only player showing any quality on the few occasions we managed to get the ball anywhere near him. You can't really judge a striker when they're playing in a piss poor team that creates nothing. He created a first half chance for Kebe and he linked play up well. The guy is too good for the crap the other ten on the pitch produced tonight.

Agree. He cant win ball for toffee but he has good feet, can hold the ball up well and bring in other players and that was shown on numerous occasions last night.

[windermere_royal]

Can't believe the bullshit I'm reading about Pog being so awful tonight. He was the only player showing any quality on the few occasions we managed to get the ball anywhere near him. You can't really judge a striker when they're playing in a piss poor team that creates nothing. He created a first half chance for Kebe and he linked play up well. The guy is too good for the crap the other ten on the pitch produced tonight.

+100000

[Vision]

When he did he look like scoring?

The bloke basically gave up after 20 minutes or so. Stopped making any kind of positive run. Twice Shorey looked to play the ball into space where he should have run into and on both occasions he didn't bother. If he's going to sulk about poor service whilst playng for a side at the bottom of the league yet not continue to make positive runs then he's absolutely no oxf*rd use to us.

He may possess more ability and pedigree than the others but it's not worth much if he doesn't give a shit.

Don't often disagree with your views on the game Vision, but I think that's a very harsh appraisal of his contribution.

I, like SKB, thought he put in a good shift and looked one of the few players capable of keeping the ball or doing anything with it. I saw him making a number of unseen runs when the likes of Tabb or Leigertwood were on the ball and was in a couple of very good positions in space to receive the ball when Kebe got his final balls wrong (he linked up quite well with him at times).

I'm sure he ran out of puff in the second half yes. But I think he played pretty well.

He started off fine but he gave up making those runs once the game was up. Shorey specifically berated him for not making a run into space that Hunt had created and Shorey wanted to pass into. It's no coincidence that the moment he went off and we had a forward who wanted to make those runs we actually started to pose at least a minimal threat again.

To give him the benefit of the doubt, as I said before, not having played much football and returning from an injury he might have been trying to manage things. There were positive signs but if he's only going to put it in when it suits him then he really isn't going to be much use to us other than in little cameos from the bench

[Snowball]

He was decent for maybe 20 minutes, but pretty much anonymous after that.

He reminds me of a flat-track bully or good in a winning side, but I don't sense
that he's the type to die for the cause, or run through walls.

I think he started wanting to prove himself (no doubt he feels hard done by)
but looked to me like he wasn't up for the fight

And in the state we are in we can't afford one player slacking.


Oh, what I'd have given to see Shane there instead of him.

[r-sport]

Pogrebnyak reckons Man City could smash 12 past Reading this weekend. Nothing like a confident striker to give the side a boost.

http://en.rsport.ru/football/20121218/636323487.html

[Elm Park Pasty]

Pogrebnyak reckons Man City could smash 12 past Reading this weekend. Nothing like a confident striker to give the side a boost.

http://en.rsport.ru/football/20121218/636323487.html

You should visit the match prediction thread, Pog isn't the only one thinking 12 is possible!

[mbb]

I agree with him!!

I think he is confused by a lack of game plan, lack of midfield and worried about getting his head taken off by one of Legsofwood's hoofs!

Last night a couple of times when the ball was played to his feet he looked more effective!

[cmonurz]

"Here's how I see it: The time for changes came a long time ago," the 29-year-old insisted. "But this is a question for someone else. Not only yesterday, but generally in the last few games we've looked weak."

He's not wrong. But presumably for speaking out he'll now suffer the 'Guthrie law'.

[maffff]

Yay, his prediction matches mine on the thread.

Pogrebnyak Rules Out Russia Return

Reading striker Pavel Pogrebnyak is happy in the English Premier League and rules out a return to Russia, for now.

Pogrebnyak has scored four goals in 14 appearances this season, and is eager to stay and improve his game despite his club's desperately poor form.

"I don’t want to return because I’m playing in the strongest European league," the big front man told R-Sport.

"I’d like to stay here as long as possible. And not just stay and fight for survival, but to play real football."

The Russia international signed a four-year deal at the Madejski Stadium in June after a four-month loan stint with Fulham.

Pogrebnyak, 29, added he could not confirm rumors that he is set to be joined by fellow Russian Andrei Arshavin in the January transfer window.

The 31-year-old playmaker can leave on a free in the summer, so next month is the last chance for the Gunners to recoup some of the £15 million they spent on him in 2009.

http://en.rian.ru/sports/20121218/178245231.html?

[Royalclapper]

Hi there I'm Pavel,

I am supposedly a well respected striker from Russia. I'm currently being out-scored by a modest lad from Stockport who cost less than 500k from Rotherham Utd and who's on half my wage.

I played a bit part in Euro 2012 for the big hitter Russian national team who got tossed out of a shyte group and failed to make the knock-out stages.

[Elm Park Pasty]

"Here's how I see it: The time for changes came a long time ago," the 29-year-old insisted. "But this is a question for someone else. Not only yesterday, but generally in the last few games we've looked weak."

He's not wrong. But presumably for speaking out he'll now suffer the 'Guthrie law'.

Must be getting a bit busy with all the inmates down in the Physio area.