Tom Rogic

[SPARTA]

So the Rogic move is definitely off? oxf*rd whoever moved this to the team board, really wanted this to happen.

As of this morning it was very much on. Not sure where we are with regards to this player poking his nose and apparently advising him to turn us down.

[LightwaterRoyal]

Back to Rogic please people. We can discuss Huddlestone and whether or not hed fit in our side, personally I couldnt care less about him, on his thread

[winchester_royal]

So the Rogic move is definitely off? oxf*rd whoever moved this to the team board, really wanted this to happen.

As of this morning it was very much on. Not sure where we are with regards to this player poking his nose and apparently advising him to turn us down.

Tbh all the reports re: Rogic turning us down just seem to be a whole of baseless assumptions being made by a clueless Aussie media.

No direct quotes = very little substance

[LightwaterRoyal]

So the Rogic move is definitely off? oxf*rd whoever moved this to the team board, really wanted this to happen.

As of this morning it was very much on. Not sure where we are with regards to this player poking his nose and apparently advising him to turn us down.

Thankyou very much, do you have a source or are you in the loop?

[SPARTA]

So the Rogic move is definitely off? oxf*rd whoever moved this to the team board, really wanted this to happen.

As of this morning it was very much on. Not sure where we are with regards to this player poking his nose and apparently advising him to turn us down.

Thankyou very much, do you have a source or are you in the loop?

It's reliable. I'm not ITK and wouldn't want to claim otherwise though.

[Ian Royal]

So the Rogic move is definitely off? oxf*rd whoever moved this to the team board, really wanted this to happen.

As of this morning it was very much on. Not sure where we are with regards to this player poking his nose and apparently advising him to turn us down.

Tbh all the reports re: Rogic turning us down just seem to be a whole of baseless assumptions being made by a clueless Aussie media.

No direct quotes = very little substance

This is my view. I find it very suspicious that there are claims that he's now worried about getting relegated when a) he was going to come to us when we were in the Championship, but we couldn't get a work permit and b) bugger all has changed in our relegation fight since everything coming out was positive. We're just as many points off safety, same position. The only change is us predictably losing to Spurs and QPR beating Chelsea and getting level on points. It's not game changing in the slightest.

And lol @ any suggestions we're only in it for the money and aren't interested in looking after him. That's the exact opposite to the way we sell the club.



SPARTA - how can you be reliable, without being ITK? Either you know about it and you're reliable, or you don't, so it's tosh.

[LightwaterRoyal]

Im not having a go or anything, just noticed you started the Carriço thread.

[SPARTA]

SPARTA - how can you be reliable, without being ITK? Either you know about it and you're reliable, or you don't, so it's tosh.

What I've heard was reliable as of this morning. I know someone who is ITK, but I'm not and wouldn't want anyone to think otherwise.

[Ian Royal]

SPARTA - how can you be reliable, without being ITK? Either you know about it and you're reliable, or you don't, so it's tosh.

What I've heard was reliable as of this morning. I know someone who is ITK, but I'm not and wouldn't want anyone to think otherwise.

It's like cousins isn't it. You're 2nd ITK twice removed.

[LightwaterRoyal]

SPARTA - how can you be reliable, without being ITK? Either you know about it and you're reliable, or you don't, so it's tosh.

What I've heard was reliable as of this morning. I know someone who is ITK, but I'm not and wouldn't want anyone to think otherwise.

Well Im very grateful you choose to share bits with us. I only asked because we get the likes of Reading4eva and BigMike constantly stirring up shite so I like to know who to actually take seriously

[USA_Loyal_Royal]

Tbh all the reports re: Rogic turning us down just seem to be a whole of baseless assumptions being made by a clueless Aussie media.

No direct quotes = very little substance

This is my view. I find it very suspicious that there are claims that he's now worried about getting relegated when a) he was going to come to us when we were in the Championship, but we couldn't get a work permit and b) bugger all has changed in our relegation fight since everything coming out was positive. We're just as many points off safety, same position. The only change is us predictably losing to Spurs and QPR beating Chelsea and getting level on points. It's not game changing in the slightest.

And lol @ any suggestions we're only in it for the money and aren't interested in looking after him. That's the exact opposite to the way we sell the club.



SPARTA - how can you be reliable, without being ITK? Either you know about it and you're reliable, or you don't, so it's tosh.[/quote]

^this. we are probably just waiting for his work permit to go through.

[Simon's Church]

Thankyou very much, do you have a source or are you in the loop?

It's reliable. I'm not ITK and wouldn't want to claim otherwise though.

Are you dare to dream/fridays legacy? Cos this is the same shit they were always coming out with.

[SPARTA]

Thankyou very much, do you have a source or are you in the loop?

It's reliable. I'm not ITK and wouldn't want to claim otherwise though.

Are you dare to dream/fridays legacy? Cos this is the same shit they were always coming out with.

No I'm not, and unlike most on here I'm not here for a wind-up nor some attention. I just heard something from someone who I know to be reliable. It's not exactly big news either.

[Divvy]

So what the hell is happening with this then because it seems like everyone has an opinion but there's very little facts out there except BM telling us we're close. Twitter rumours last night from Oz media say he has turned us down, but today the twitter rumours are it will go through this week. Hopefully the latter. Sometimes I miss the days when all we had was ceefax for a one line news update.

[Huntley & Palmer]

After Central Coast put out a statement confirming Ryan would not train with fallen Scottish giants Rangers, a club spokesman said it was "very unlikely" Rogic was bound for EPL battlers Reading.
"At this point in time he is staying," he said of Rogic.
"Reading is a very unlikely destination for him.
"But there are another few clubs interested in him and Ryan too.
"We have not received any formal figures or terms but there are 24 days left in January (the transfer window) - we will wait and see."

[LoyalRoyal22]

Back to R&G

The Team Board curse strikes again.

where it should have stayed anyway, until the deal was done

Why, that part of the forum is for rumours and speculation. This is neither. Brian confirmed we are trying to sign him, regardless if he joins or not, it is not speculation.

[10539.4 Miles Away]

So the Rogic move is definitely off? oxf*rd whoever moved this to the team board, really wanted this to happen.

As of this morning it was very much on. Not sure where we are with regards to this player poking his nose and apparently advising him to turn us down.

Tbh all the reports re: Rogic turning us down just seem to be a whole of baseless assumptions being made by a clueless Aussie media.

No direct quotes = very little substance

Direct quote from the bushes man himself

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/a-league/reading-not-on-cards-for-rogic--at-least-until-end-of-season-20130107-2cd51.html

''Basically the deal's off and the club and the player will reassess at the end of the season,'' Bernal told The Canberra Times on Monday.
''Reading won't happen this [transfer] window, 100 per cent it won't happen this window, and we'll stay in touch and look at it again in the [European] summer.''

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

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The agreement for Rogic to go to Reading, meanwhile, which appeared to be a done deal, has hit two problems, with the English side only willing to pay a certain amount upfront despite having agreed an in-principle figure overall.


Beggars belief that the club are trying to do this on what is believed to be a nominal fee of c£400k....are things really that bad that we don't have the ability to pay the full amount...would understand it on a big fee but £400k ??????

[Royal Ginger]

where it should have stayed anyway, until the deal was done

Why, that part of the forum is for rumours and speculation. This is neither. Brian confirmed we are trying to sign him, regardless if he joins or not, it is not speculation.

This part of the forum is for the team, which he isn't a part of. With the absence of a "Not a rumor but still wildly speculating about details" board, it would make more sense to leave it where it is until a signing is confirmed.

[Agram]

Ladies/Gents,

I'm from Australia and have been reading this thread and decided to clear up a few things about Rogic.

Firstly, the standard of the A-League is an interestring one and it's quite difficult to make a comparison to where it would sit amongst the English Football League structure.

Clubs like Brisbane and Melbourne play the best football in the league by far, much better than what I watched living in England for 2 and a half years from any bottom Championship/League One clubs. However, you also have clubs such as Perth and Wellington who sit deep are prone to the odd long-ball, horrible to watch.

Another thing is that due to each club being imposed with a salary cap, its hard for the bigger clubs such as Melbourne/Sydney/Brisbane to really go after good players in the transfer market, meaning that there is sometimes a big discrepancy in quality within clubs themselves. I'll use Sydney as an example - they have Alessandro Del Piero - however apart from Jason Culina (ex-PSV) and Brett Emerton (ex-Blackburn) the players around him are either coming out of the State Leagues (lower divisions) or just solid A-League players who obviously aren't on his level.

In terms of Rogic, he plays for the club that tops the league at current and has been by far their best player. He suffers a bit from the 'Del Piero syndrome' in that technically/tactically he is that far ahead of his peers that he is always one step ahead in terms of passing and receiving he becomes frustrated.

Now, in terms of his move to Reading, I don't think people here in Australia are saying that the is too good for you. Most of the conversation has been that if he were to move to there the style of football that usually comes along with a relegation battle wouldn't suit him at all, which in turn would have a negative effect on your own hopes to survive.

What I mean by it not suiting him is that he isn't a ball-winning midfielder who is going to give you 90 minutes of graft. Rogic has had a mostly futsal upbringing (only started playing the outdoor form of the game properly 3-4 years ago) and relies solely on his technical ability. Even here in the A-League he struggles to play out 90 minutes, but the 70-odd he generally plays are 70 minutes of quality. His ability to play out 90 will come in time, but he isn't ready for that yet, particularly in the Prem.

What's more is that IF Reading are to go down, the Championship would probably be worse for him at this stage of his career. Personally I think his first move to Europe should be in the Eredivisie/Bundesliga, where he can get the mix of 'technical football' with the touch of physicality, then if he wants (or is good enough) go to the Prem.

Anyway, good luck and hope you lads manage to stay up