TSI - The Promises, Policies & Progress Thread

[Royal Rother]

Good to see the Sensible Heads getting stronger on this thread.

There are far too many Dick Heads around normally.

[Rex]

Posting up sensible discussion points could kill this thread I'd rather take the sensible option or cautious investment than a club facing relegation and getting into long term financial difficulties. We went for it in the first season after relegation and were fortunate to have players on other clubs radars who were willing to pay. This provided a reasonable wage equilibrium to allow the club to gradually rebuild. I prefer this option to anything else put on offer.

[Ian Royal]

Thing is, we could easily have had to pay another £3m - £6m for Guthrie and Pog in transfer fees if they had different contract situations. Which would have taken our spending to more like £10m over the summer. But because we "only" spent a couple of million each on Mariappa and Gunter, it looks like we spent very little, especially because most people don't think about wages, or signing on fees.

What we actually did was use what we spent very efficiently. How many clubs you going to find who can bring in a three highly rated Championship players, two PL experienced players and a major nation International striker for less than £5m in transfer fees? Now you can argue we needed more and better quality all you want, but that's pretty impressive. Shorey and McCleary seem to be doing what we brought them in for, to add cover and competition. Pog's scoring. Mariappa's clearly improved our defence, though maybe not enough. So only Guthrie and Gunter have been real failures so far and Guthrie is now possibly taking his chance to prove his worth.

I'd liked to have seen a bit more experience and quality coming in during January so far, but I didn't want us to just splash the cash and end up with expensive failures not really wanting to play Championship football. but you can't fault the signings in terms of their potential for next season if we're relegated. And I do honestly think that without bringing Sig back, our squad just needed too much of an overhaul to improve it enough to make much difference on our chance of survival this season. At the time I thought maybe I was wrong about that the signings were good enough. But some injuries and other problems put the end to that with a poor start it's very hard to recover from.

As long as we make a fight of it this season and hold off confirmed relegation to the last few games, we should be able to go into next season in good shape.

[Royal Lady]

Do you think we would still have bought Pog and Guthrie if they'd been another £3-6 million between them? I don't.

And it would appear, that Shorey has now been frozen out - so when we will recoup the money we've paid out for him?

[Royal Rother]

What makes you think Shorey has been frozen out?

[ZacNaloen]

Regardless of what that now deleted thread said, he's been on the bench.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Do you think we would still have bought Pog and Guthrie if they'd been another £3-6 million between them? I don't.

And it would appear, that Shorey has now been frozen out - so when we will recoup the money we've paid out for him?

Free transfer, so what do we need to get back so far?

[SpaceCruiser]

Regardless of what that now deleted thread said, he's been on the bench.

Did RL delete it?

[Royal Lady]

Yes I did. For the sake of Graham and Hobnob, certainly not that idiot FL or the bloke who called me a retard.

[cmonurz]

Yes I did. For the sake of Graham and Hobnob, certainly not that idiot FL or the bloke who called me a retard.

Thank god you did that without first gauging opinion and slating FL. Good modding.

[SpaceCruiser]

Good. I'm happy that you did it, RL.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Only would have caused a legal problem if it was not true.

So can a mod confirm that FL isJay?

[Royal Rother]

Which FL is this and what was the essence of what was said? Without the details of course!

[cmonurz]

Which FL is this and what was the essence of what was said? Without the details of course!

friday's legacy posted that there was a specific non-footballing reason why Shorey wasn't starting games.

[Royal Rother]

Oh right, I'm with it.

Other odd references on here yesterday have some context now.

He said he had a virus on BBCRB. I'll go with that.

[robinsfriday]

Yes I did. For the sake of Graham and Hobnob, certainly not that idiot FL or the bloke who called me a retard.

Ha had a point though.

[maffff]

Zingarevich has also said to McDermott that no matter what happens this season he will be the manager next year. If the worst thing happens and we break Derby's record, McDermott should be here come January 2014 provided we are making a credible attempt at bouncing back. If we stay up Zingarevich wants to see visible progress.

Despite my own personal view at Sunderland sort of time that he was a dead man walking then, so far this rings true...

[melonhead]

rings

[maffff]

Yep, edited. One of those days.

[Royal Lady]

Yes I did. For the sake of Graham and Hobnob, certainly not that idiot FL or the bloke who called me a retard.

Ha had a point though.

No. He didn't. He said I was a retard for suggesting that the post could get him and/or Graham and/or Hobnob into trouble. And I was correct. Thanking you muchly.