by Alexander Litvinenko » 15 Mar 2013 11:19
by Hoop Blah » 15 Mar 2013 11:30
by Royal With Cheese » 15 Mar 2013 11:32
Hoop Blah Just to pick up on a point I think has been banded about on here and certainly by Mick Gooding on Radio Berks last weekend, was that McDermott overacheived last year because he didn't have one of the bigger budgets in the division.
Our wage bill last season was about £25m. That was most likely one of the top 3 or 4 budgets last season (in fact it's only slightly less than 'reckless spenders' QPR's the year they went up!).
by Alexander Litvinenko » 15 Mar 2013 11:42
Hoop Blah Just to pick up on a point I think has been banded about on here and certainly by Mick Gooding on Radio Berks last weekend, was that McDermott overacheived last year because he didn't have one of the bigger budgets in the division.
Our wage bill last season was about £25m. That was most likely one of the top 3 or 4 budgets last season (in fact it's only slightly less than 'reckless spenders' QPR's the year they went up!).
by Z175 » 15 Mar 2013 12:03
Royal With CheeseHoop Blah Just to pick up on a point I think has been banded about on here and certainly by Mick Gooding on Radio Berks last weekend, was that McDermott overacheived last year because he didn't have one of the bigger budgets in the division.
Our wage bill last season was about £25m. That was most likely one of the top 3 or 4 budgets last season (in fact it's only slightly less than 'reckless spenders' QPR's the year they went up!).
Surely that includes bonuses for winning the title? If we hadn't gone up I would imagine this would have been considerably less.
by Hoop Blah » 15 Mar 2013 12:22
Royal With CheeseHoop Blah Just to pick up on a point I think has been banded about on here and certainly by Mick Gooding on Radio Berks last weekend, was that McDermott overacheived last year because he didn't have one of the bigger budgets in the division.
Our wage bill last season was about £25m. That was most likely one of the top 3 or 4 budgets last season (in fact it's only slightly less than 'reckless spenders' QPR's the year they went up!).
Surely that includes bonuses for winning the title? If we hadn't gone up I would imagine this would have been considerably less.
by Ouroboros » 15 Mar 2013 14:03
Alexander LitvinenkoHoop Blah Just to pick up on a point I think has been banded about on here and certainly by Mick Gooding on Radio Berks last weekend, was that McDermott overacheived last year because he didn't have one of the bigger budgets in the division.
Our wage bill last season was about £25m. That was most likely one of the top 3 or 4 budgets last season (in fact it's only slightly less than 'reckless spenders' QPR's the year they went up!).
The collated figures for 2011/12 aren't available yet, but certainly the season before we had the 4th largest Championship wage bill, according to Deloitte Annual Review of Football Finance ...
by RoyalBlue » 15 Mar 2013 14:14
Alexander Litvinenkomelonhead oh give it a rest!
i dont know what has happened to you dirk, but you have almost become the most negative bloke on here.
weve spent money we wouldnt have under JM. thats for sure.
whether thats from his pocket, or not, im happy that the purse strings have been released slightly.
the club and squad in my view has progressed in every transfer window since before he took over.
did it progress enough, not quite, but it definitely has.and im happy with that.
i see no evidence whatsoever of the downfall of the club youve been predicting since he took over.
when i do ill change my mind. but its silly doing the chicken licken when the sky hasnt even started falling in
Brendy, FFS stop seeing me as being negative and always knocking things - try reading what I've said and seeing what it says, rather than what you expect it to say.
I've just said that no external money has been paid in yet - and that there's been no need for external money to have been paid in yet.
I've not said the purse strings *haven't* been relaxed, I've not said any downfall is imminent, in fact I've deliberately not stated an opinion or made a prediction. There's no negativity in it - it's just a factual statement of how I understand the finances have been run this year.
The only point of yours that I'd argue with is the suggestion that anyone has "invested about 15 million quid more into the team than SJM would have done." Just how do you know that, or know what JM would have done?
Because the key point you seem to have missed that I'm trying to make - without being negative, just being factual - is that the extra expenditure that's been made this season is more than covered by the TV income that is guaranteed from a year in the Premier League - no-one is out of pocket by the extra that has been spent this season. No money needs to have been put in from outside for us to have spent what we have. So where does your £15M invested come from?
by Z175 » 15 Mar 2013 14:30
Hoop Blah On the 'it was only a loan' front, I think it has to be done that way.
I'm not sure why but it seems all external injections of cash are done via a loan at whatever club you look at when an individual or owning company want to spunk more money on players etc. Perhaps one of the many bean counters on here could clarify or explain a bit more, but I believe even Abramovich's money is technically appearing as loans to Chelsea.
by maffff » 15 Mar 2013 15:24
RoyalBlueAlexander Litvinenkomelonhead oh give it a rest!
i dont know what has happened to you dirk, but you have almost become the most negative bloke on here.
weve spent money we wouldnt have under JM. thats for sure.
whether thats from his pocket, or not, im happy that the purse strings have been released slightly.
the club and squad in my view has progressed in every transfer window since before he took over.
did it progress enough, not quite, but it definitely has.and im happy with that.
i see no evidence whatsoever of the downfall of the club youve been predicting since he took over.
when i do ill change my mind. but its silly doing the chicken licken when the sky hasnt even started falling in
Brendy, FFS stop seeing me as being negative and always knocking things - try reading what I've said and seeing what it says, rather than what you expect it to say.
I've just said that no external money has been paid in yet - and that there's been no need for external money to have been paid in yet.
I've not said the purse strings *haven't* been relaxed, I've not said any downfall is imminent, in fact I've deliberately not stated an opinion or made a prediction. There's no negativity in it - it's just a factual statement of how I understand the finances have been run this year.
The only point of yours that I'd argue with is the suggestion that anyone has "invested about 15 million quid more into the team than SJM would have done." Just how do you know that, or know what JM would have done?
Because the key point you seem to have missed that I'm trying to make - without being negative, just being factual - is that the extra expenditure that's been made this season is more than covered by the TV income that is guaranteed from a year in the Premier League - no-one is out of pocket by the extra that has been spent this season. No money needs to have been put in from outside for us to have spent what we have. So where does your £15M invested come from?
In a rare moment of agreement with Melonhead, he is right. Regardless of where the money has come from, under AZ we have still invested more than would have been the case under Madejski. And I repeat that AZ was prepared to put significant money into the club (whether or not 'loan' a la Madejski) before the deal to buy it went through. Without that, we would not have gone up because it was pretty clear that Madejski wasn't going to meet Kebe's expectations nor would he have backed Roberts coming on board.
by Hoop Blah » 15 Mar 2013 15:29
Ouroboros So we're agreed that he overachieved in winning the division, then?
by RoyalBlue » 15 Mar 2013 17:43
melonhead tbf at no point had i said/meant it came out of his own pocket.
just that it had been spent.
i base it on the evidence to hand. last time we got to the premiere league, JM spent 1 million quid in the summer. and that was when he had money.
im just assuming that now he doesnt have money, and wont spend what he does have on the club that it would probably be less this time.
think thats pretty a fair assumption.
and tbf to TSI without their involvement lasrtr january we wouldnt have won the championship and wouldnt even be in the prem.
by jellytot » 04 Apr 2013 16:53
trueroyal1871Royalee Sandman and all the other w*nker inferiority complex fans we have out. Go on, f*ck off and watch Oxford or something if you like watching third rate football and harking back to the 'good old days' so much.
+1
by sandman » 04 Apr 2013 17:04
by West Stand Man » 04 Apr 2013 17:09
OuroborosAlexander LitvinenkoHoop Blah Just to pick up on a point I think has been banded about on here and certainly by Mick Gooding on Radio Berks last weekend, was that McDermott overacheived last year because he didn't have one of the bigger budgets in the division.
Our wage bill last season was about £25m. That was most likely one of the top 3 or 4 budgets last season (in fact it's only slightly less than 'reckless spenders' QPR's the year they went up!).
The collated figures for 2011/12 aren't available yet, but certainly the season before we had the 4th largest Championship wage bill, according to Deloitte Annual Review of Football Finance ...
So we're agreed that he overachieved in winning the division, then?
by Ian Royal » 04 Apr 2013 17:14
by MouldyRoyal » 04 Apr 2013 17:30
by melonhead » 05 Apr 2013 11:32
by AirRaidSiren » 08 Jun 2013 14:47
by littlejohnnyoster » 08 Jun 2013 15:29