Is Adkins the right choice?

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I think that:

Brian should not have been sacked - full stop
18
6%
Brian should not have been sacked but I'm happy with Adkins
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33%
Brian should not have been sacked and I'm not happy with Adkins
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5%
Sacking Brian was right decision and I'm happy with Adkins
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51%
Sacking Brian was right decision and I'm not happy with Adkins
6
2%
Something else
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3%
 
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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by mr_number » 26 Mar 2013 10:34

Bugger. Had a spaz. It says that it was the wrong decision to sack Brian.

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by Royalclapper » 26 Mar 2013 10:53

Only time will tell if he's the right choice, seems like a decent appointment to me.

To say Adkins is no different to McDermott is a little confusing as they had jobs at different clubs with different squads. McDermott did a far better job with us than Rodgers but he's not a better manager and wouldn't get a club job as big as Liverpool. It'll be interesting to see if/who McD gets another job with, that will be a reasonable indicator as to what football people outside of RFC think his worth is.

We should get a more pleasing style of football to watch under Adkins, let's just hope it is also effective and successful.

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by Extended-Phenotype » 26 Mar 2013 10:57

To have made the best of a bad situation, I’d have loved us to have appointed someone from a level up from McD.

Ok, Adkins has taken Southampton up, but they are not exactly safe or doing much better than Reading.

Don’t see the point of this appointment at all.

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by Reading4eva » 26 Mar 2013 11:02

I think it was the right decision to let Brian go... Although I would of rather he stay at the club in another role (understudy to Adkins?) but happy with this appointment. I am confident Adkins will get us promoted at the first attempt (feel he might be lying to himself if he doesn't think we are already down), as would have Brian I feel. HOWEVER if we were promoted again under Brian... Brian has shown he is completely out of his depth at this level. That's why I believe an understudy would of been a good idea.

With Adkins, over the 28 games he had in charge... He proved he is good enough with a club who achieved back to back promotions! That is a fact most people here forget and it was one of Madejski's cheap managers who he replaced there. I like Adkins ideas and scouting network. Anton must back him with money to enable him to get us playing the football he wants! Finally no more hoof ball!

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by Barry the bird boggler » 26 Mar 2013 11:04

For those unaware, Nigel Howard Adkins was a goalkeeper for Tranmere, Wigan and Bangor in the 1980s and early 90s. He then became manager at Bangor and won the welsh league twice with them.

He then qualified as a physio from Salford University and joined Scunthorpe in that role until becoming manager there in 2007 leading them to promotion to the championship, relegation and then promotion again in successive seasons.

Along came Southampton and successive promotions to the PL


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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by TommyF » 26 Mar 2013 11:16

I didn't want Brian sacked because I felt he deserved the chance to try and keep us up and the opportunity to get us back up. But I do understand it because he failed to spend available money in January that could have helped and our style of football was such that we could never become established.

That said, very happy with Adkins. Anyone who thinks this is a sideways move clearly is happy to go down and come back up with the effective (in Championship) but unprogressive, turgid football we play. I always thought the players we had played football best when we got it down on the floor yet it's something we rarely did - clearly on BM's orders. As delighted as I was last season to beat Southampton and West Ham it was embarrassing how we'd been outplayed by them but mugged them for the points - something repeated time and time again and which ultimately found us out this season. We could never become established in the premiership playing football like that and I saw no proof Brian could play any other way. ED showed us against ManU that our players have the ability to retain the ball yet under Brian we would often have well under 40% possession, even at home against bottom 6 sides.

OK, I can't believe Adkins can keep us up but would be happy for us to win very ugly for the rest of the season if he does.

I do though then expect us to progress in our footballing style into a team that play the way that can, with the right players, become established in the Premiership.

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by Ouroboros » 26 Mar 2013 11:20

Extended-Phenotype Ok, Adkins has taken Southampton up, but they are not exactly safe or doing much better than Reading.


They're 8 points above us, E-P. Come on.

:|

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by Hoop Blah » 26 Mar 2013 11:21

Extended-Phenotype Don’t see the point of this appointment at all.


We need a manager.....

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by SHORT AND CURLY » 26 Mar 2013 11:23

andrew1957
For this season I am done and will not be attending any more matches in protest at the club's sacking of Brian – but I will most likely be back attending all the home games again next season as we challenge at the top of the table.


Bloomin eck thats a bit desperate.

I don't agree with the appointment, but I will still getting behind the team in the final few matches of this season.

(Of the course the drinking sessions in the three remaining London games may have a lot to do with it :wink: )


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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 26 Mar 2013 11:38

Sacking Brian was the correct decision, Adkins has the ability to get us back up again next season if we go down this season.

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by melonhead » 26 Mar 2013 11:41

I think it was the right decision to let Brian go... Although I would of rather he stay at the club in another role (understudy to Adkins?)



lol at adkins wanting that, lol at brian wanting that, lol at anton wanting that

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by Elm Park Pasty » 26 Mar 2013 11:49

Barry the bird boggler For those unaware, Nigel Howard Adkins was a goalkeeper for Tranmere, Wigan and Bangor in the 1980s and early 90s. He then became manager at Bangor and won the welsh league twice with them.

He then qualified as a physio from Salford University and joined Scunthorpe in that role until becoming manager there in 2007 leading them to promotion to the championship, relegation and then promotion again in successive seasons.

Along came Southampton and successive promotions to the PL


I hope we will do well with Adkins in charge. Barry's point above makes it for me, Adkins has got promotions at all the clubs (and levels) he has managed at. He also did it on minimal budgets at Scunthorpe and Bangor, and a more sizeable budget at Southampton. It would seem to suggest that he learns with experience and is flexible.

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by USA_Loyal_Royal » 26 Mar 2013 11:52

Harpers So Solid Crew Sacking Brian was the correct decision, Adkins has the ability to get us back up again next season if we go down this season.

This. I dont understand why everyone is saying this is a lateral move. Adkins plays a better style of football, can attract top quality players and has a successfull history of promotion.


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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by soggy biscuit » 26 Mar 2013 12:05

Harpers So Solid Crew Sacking Brian was the correct decision, Adkins has the ability to get us back up again next season if we go down this season.


McDermott's history shows he can get a team to do even better in that division on even less money

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by Royalwaster » 26 Mar 2013 12:12

USA_Loyal_Royal
Harpers So Solid Crew Sacking Brian was the correct decision, Adkins has the ability to get us back up again next season if we go down this season.

This. I dont understand why everyone is saying this is a lateral move. Adkins plays a better style of football, can attract top quality players and has a successfull history of promotion.


Totally agree - anyone the truth is that appointing a manager to take us to the 'next level' would be a weird given that we're likely to move down a level pretty soon. If anything we need a manager who can get us promoted next season or as soon as possible and build a squad that can keep us there. Didn't think BM had it in him, although he may have learnt .... but we'll never know.

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by Extended-Phenotype » 26 Mar 2013 12:30

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Extended-Phenotype Ok, Adkins has taken Southampton up, but they are not exactly safe or doing much better than Reading.


They're 8 points above us, E-P. Come on.

:|


Adkins spent 33m. Less than three more wins than us? Wow, me next with his dick.

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by BR2 » 26 Mar 2013 12:32

andrew1957 Positives - I think this appointment stops us doing a Wolves - I fully expect that we will be competitive in the Championship with Adkins at the helm.

Negatives - I think it is a like for like replacement to Brian (after all Brain won their personal duel last season) and does not take us to the next level.

However, Brian is not coming back so we might as well get behind Adkins next season. For this season I am done and will not be attending any more matches in protest at the club's sacking of Brian – but I will most likely be back attending all the home games again next season as we challenge at the top of the table.


Andrew,
Move on.
I have followed the club for many years,the club,i.e not the manager,nor the chairman,nor the kit man,nor individual players.
All of these come and go and in most cases there is no loyalty either way.
You may feel compelled to do your own little protest and I have felt a bit like that with individual players being selected every week,e.g., Meaker,Morley,Gray,Rougier,Harte etc.but in the end rationalised that it is the club that matters most.
So firm up man -your club needs you,the king is dead,long live the king and all that stuff..

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by Royalwaster » 26 Mar 2013 12:33

3 more wins can keep you up ... we'd be out of the relegation zone with 3 more wins.

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by The Prisoner » 26 Mar 2013 12:33

What's the "something else"?

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Re: Is Adkins the right choice?

by moonwalklikebas » 26 Mar 2013 12:37

I think we will start to see a much better Pog in the next 8 games.

At southampton adkins game was all about getting the ball to lambert, a big target man forward. Let the team create him space and let him shoot.

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