Carrico Watch

[winchester_royal]

But we've always had a good scouting network So what happened this season?

When have we ever had an extensive and thorough scouting network outside of the UK and Ireland?

When have we ever needed it?

Where did Fae come from, Kebe... etc

Ah yes Emerse Fae, great bit of scouting that

You need an established scouting network across Europe if you want to be able to compete in the PL. Value is no longer there in the UK market.

[Haag Royal]

The club did not think we would get promoted last season. So up until 4/5 games prior to the end of the season we were scouting lower league sides to boost our chances in the Championship.

When we were promoted we had about 3 games to scout Prem players. Hene the lack of scouting last summer.

[SPARTA]

The club did not think we would get promoted last season. So up until 4/5 games prior to the end of the season we were scouting lower league sides to boost our chances in the Championship.

When we were promoted we had about 3 games to scout Prem players. Hene the lack of scouting last summer.

I can't buy that. Every club in the play-off race prepares for both scenarios. We've heard us doing that in the past with Hammond as DoF, and I wouldn't expect last season to be any different. I can only assume our scouting set-up wasn't anywhere near as advanced as Anton wants (looking further afield etc), and he has since addressed that with the addition of Steve Head.

[winchester_royal]

Until the takeover was completed we simply did,kt have the money to spend on any sort of extensive scouting network. Therefore we had no real knowledge of the European market, and certainly had not done enough scouting on any player in Europe to justify spending significant money on them. Towards the end of the SJM era we were contracting significantly and the Anton detractors would do well to remember that.

[Ian Royal]

Has anyone considered that we may have scaled back our scouting as part of the savings needed to cope with losing the parachute payments? It takes a while to develop the sort of network you need to effectively scout all of Europe and find the right sort of players to fit your need, ethos and quality. And it probably takes a little while to resestablish it once you've scaled back.

It's hardly surprising we weren't better prepared for promotion, it was rather a surprise. And Carrico could potentially be someone we were aware of from a season or so ago when we maybe had better European scouting resources and so we went back to him without really appreciating his current situation and perhaps getting unlucky with a medical.

It's hardly the end of the world, it's happened, we get over it and we move on. There's no point getting into recriminations because we've already taken some decent steps to address the problem and we can't do anything about the mistakes of the past other than try and learn from them. No matter how good your scouting network is you are still going to get a fair proportion of poor, mediocre or mixed success signings. We've certainly had our fair share of great signings. The problem is that our less good (key) signings tend to come in clumps at the higher level. Probably because our club is still incredibly inexperienced when it comes to what it takes to build a successful Premier League team and sign Premier League quality players.

Our normal tactic in the Championship is to buy rough diamonds and develop them over a season or so, so it's no wonder we struggle with signing players who can make a near instant impact about a level and a half better than our typical signings.

[winchester_royal]

Has anyone considered that we may have scaled back our scouting as part of the savings needed to cope with losing the parachute payments? It takes a while to develop the sort of network you need to effectively scout all of Europe and find the right sort of players to fit your need, ethos and quality. And it probably takes a little while to resestablish it once you've scaled back.

It's hardly surprising we weren't better prepared for promotion, it was rather a surprise. And Carrico could potentially be someone we were aware of from a season or so ago when we maybe had better European scouting resources and so we went back to him without really appreciating his current situation and perhaps getting unlucky with a medical.

It's hardly the end of the world, it's happened, we get over it and we move on. There's no point getting into recriminations because we've already taken some decent steps to address the problem and we can't do anything about the mistakes of the past other than try and learn from them. No matter how good your scouting network is you are still going to get a fair proportion of poor, mediocre or mixed success signings. We've certainly had our fair share of great signings. The problem is that our less good (key) signings tend to come in clumps at the higher level. Probably because our club is still incredibly inexperienced when it comes to what it takes to build a successful Premier League team and sign Premier League quality players.

Our normal tactic in the Championship is to buy rough diamonds and develop them over a season or so, so it's no wonder we struggle with signing players who can make a near instant impact about a level and a half better than our typical signings.

Well yes, exactly.

[Extended-Phenotype]

A PL team with no scouting system?..you couldn`t fecking make it up. why on earth do you think all of these big sides that showed an interest pulled out?
appalling management of the highest level.

no scouting? hamm,ond was quite clear about that comment - he meant insufficient scouting network in place in europe due to our finances and outlook in the championship.not none whatsoever
takes time to build these things, and anton was simply bemoaning that it had effected us badly.

“What’s been tough in the summer is that we didn’t have any scouting at all. The idea was to bring players in the summer and then do more in January. We tried to sign very big players in January, but weren’t very successful."

"I just want to say that there was always a budget. We should have done more in January. We should have spent more. We tried to sign players, but we should have been a bit more active."

- Anton Zingaravich

[Snowball]

IF

Carrico's issue is a long-term, serious knee-problem, then the doctor(s)
(who no doubt are paid a pretty penny for their expertise) seem to have
been at fault.

It seems very odd to me, but if the issue can be resolved with an op (if injury is the issue)
and Carrico is ready for next season, his pedigree should make him a stand out player in
The Championship.

If he ISN'T fixable, someone needs suing.

[melonhead]

A PL team with no scouting system?..you couldn`t fecking make it up. why on earth do you think all of these big sides that showed an interest pulled out?
appalling management of the highest level.

no scouting? hamm,ond was quite clear about that comment - he meant insufficient scouting network in place in europe due to our finances and outlook in the championship.not none whatsoever
takes time to build these things, and anton was simply bemoaning that it had effected us badly.

“What’s been tough in the summer is that we didn’t have any scouting at all. The idea was to bring players in the summer and then do more in January. We tried to sign very big players in January, but weren’t very successful."

"I just want to say that there was always a budget. We should have done more in January. We should have spent more. We tried to sign players, but we should have been a bit more active."

- Anton Zingaravich

hammond said categoricaly that this was a misquote/language issue, that we do have plenty of scouts, even some at games in europe, but that it simply wasnt up to the job after our unexpected promotion.

[melonhead]

IF

Carrico's issue is a long-term, serious knee-problem, then the doctor(s)
(who no doubt are paid a pretty penny for their expertise) seem to have
been at fault.

It seems very odd to me, but if the issue can be resolved with an op (if injury is the issue)
and Carrico is ready for next season, his pedigree should make him a stand out player in
The Championship.

If he ISN'T fixable, someone needs suing.

or we would have been aware of the injury, and thought that the massively reduced price was worth a punt

[Ian Royal]

no scouting? hamm,ond was quite clear about that comment - he meant insufficient scouting network in place in europe due to our finances and outlook in the championship.not none whatsoever
takes time to build these things, and anton was simply bemoaning that it had effected us badly.

“What’s been tough in the summer is that we didn’t have any scouting at all. The idea was to bring players in the summer and then do more in January. We tried to sign very big players in January, but weren’t very successful."

"I just want to say that there was always a budget. We should have done more in January. We should have spent more. We tried to sign players, but we should have been a bit more active."

- Anton Zingaravich

hammond said categoricaly that this was a misquote/language issue, that we do have plenty of scouts, even some at games in europe, but that it simply wasnt up to the job after our unexpected promotion.

Yeah, lol @ anyone who takes that literally.

[LoyalRoyal22]

So

Adkins has been quoted today, something like ` kebe is injured, but everyone else is in contention`

So Carrico is not injured then?

[Mr.T10]

So

Adkins has been quoted today, something like ` kebe is injured, but everyone else is in contention`

So Carrico is not injured then?

Probably still hasn't found him to comment

[Mid Sussex Royal]

So

Adkins has been quoted today, something like ` kebe is injured, but everyone else is in contention`

So Carrico is not injured then?

Roberts??

[SPARTA]

So

Adkins has been quoted today, something like ` kebe is injured, but everyone else is in contention`

So Carrico is not injured then?

Roberts??

No longer in the equation surely? His hip problem means he's out for many more months and out of contract in the summer. He's as good as gone, and wont be in NA's mind.

[fedders1871]

Was just thinking would daniel carrico ever play again? due to the 'adkins era', might be a shit thread but wanted to see what other people think about carrico's situation.

[AkpansBFF]

Was just thinking would daniel carrico ever play again? due to the 'adkins era', might be a shit thread but wanted to see what other people think about carrico's situation.

I think he will fit in. When he first came he said its going to be a challenge to change from his style of play (passing and a slower game). But now we are changing to a passing more attractive style hopefully he can adapt. Also the championship should be a lot easier for him to fit in.

[melonhead]

dunno , lol

[Cobi]

Was just thinking would daniel carrico ever play again? due to the 'adkins era', might be a shit thread but wanted to see what other people think about carrico's situation.

Why isn't this in The Team section?

I expect he'll go this summer along with the high earners (Pog, Guthrie, Feds)

[Delboy]

Signed for £660,000 three months ago, contracted until June 2015 with club having an extra years option. Surely would be playing or in squad if fit!