Goalkeepers

[Ian Royal]

Also, teaching a goal keeper to kick the ball is probably one of the easiest skills to teach.

If it was that easy then he'd have learnt it to a better degree by now especially given the fact he has come through an academy set up. I watched him in the warm up on Saturday and he was nowhere near the level you'd expect a top keeper to be whereas Federici hit the ball accurately every time.

All I'm saying is if he is to go for big money and become a top keeper then he needs to improve drastically because the best like Casillas, Neuer and Valdes are all comfortable with the ball at their feet.

He is comfortable with the ball at his feet. It's just the ball going from his feet to further than halfway up the pitch he has a problem with.

Whilst he fooked up in pre-season and got caught out, he still showed he was comfortable on the ball in rounding the striker. If he then hadn't been unbelievably casual and distributed straight away he'd never have conceeded.

If he's not relying on long kicking, which he isn't and Fed does, then his lack of quality at it is far less important. It is still something he needs to seriously work on if he wants to play much for England or a top 6 club. But frankly, I'll settle for him failing to improve it, because the rest of his game is getting too good for us and it's one of the few ways we might hold on to him for more than another season or two.

[Hoop Blah]

Also, teaching a goal keeper to kick the ball is probably one of the easiest skills to teach.

If it was that easy then he'd have learnt it to a better degree by now especially given the fact he has come through an academy set up.

They probably concentrate more on the goalkeeping fundementals through the earlier development to be fair, but I don't actually think kicking the ball is going to be as easy to improve as some are implying.

It might well be easier than coaching the goalkeeping basics but it's still a hard skill to perfect. At least McCarthy is starting with a relatively low basis to improve on though so with enough effort put into it (without having a detrimental effect on the rest of his game) he should be able to improve to some degree.

[P!ssed Off]

£1m for Federici. It's a fair price, McCarthy's value is likely to climb and he's likely to improve. Especially if he can sort out his kicking. We have Taylor as cover. Andersen may be persuaded to stay if he's second choice rather than third. We've also got other young keepers.

We can use the money and the leeway in wages to sign someone in a position we're weaker.

But £3m for McCarthy would probably be hard to resist.

at the thought that selling a player for £1m will raise crucial transfer funds.

at thinking £3m would be "hard to resist" for McCarthy.

We've sold shitter players for much more, and that was pre-Russian when we were more inclined to sell.
I don't see why we'd even consider selling McCarthy for less than £7.5m.

[URZZZZZ]

if only mccarthy had the kicking skills of feds, then he would be great all round. i have to say i love the way feds kicks the ball, even if he is a jumped up lil prick lol

[P!ssed Off]

if only mccarthy had the kicking skills of feds, then he would be great all round. i have to say i love the way feds kicks the ball, even if he is a jumped up lil prick lol

If McCarthy had Feds's kicking skills as well as his own saving skills then he probably wouldn't be playing for us though would he?

[URZZZZZ]

if only mccarthy had the kicking skills of feds, then he would be great all round. i have to say i love the way feds kicks the ball, even if he is a jumped up lil prick lol

If McCarthy had Feds's kicking skills as well as his own saving skills then he probably wouldn't be playing for us though would he?

who knows my opinionis that he is too good for us as it is, really deserves prem football, if we dont go up, 100% he will be gone

[Ian Royal]

£1m for Federici. It's a fair price, McCarthy's value is likely to climb and he's likely to improve. Especially if he can sort out his kicking. We have Taylor as cover. Andersen may be persuaded to stay if he's second choice rather than third. We've also got other young keepers.

We can use the money and the leeway in wages to sign someone in a position we're weaker.

But £3m for McCarthy would probably be hard to resist.

at the thought that selling a player for £1m will raise crucial transfer funds.

at thinking £3m would be "hard to resist" for McCarthy.

We've sold shitter players for much more, and that was pre-Russian when we were more inclined to sell.
I don't see why we'd even consider selling McCarthy for less than £7.5m.

£1m > £0m
Goalkeeper's generally go for less than strikers (most of our big sales) and McCarthy is still pretty inexperienced.

[KC Royal]

Also, teaching a goal keeper to kick the ball is probably one of the easiest skills to teach.

If it was that easy then he'd have learnt it to a better degree by now especially given the fact he has come through an academy set up.

They probably concentrate more on the goalkeeping fundementals through the earlier development to be fair, but I don't actually think kicking the ball is going to be as easy to improve as some are implying.

It might well be easier than coaching the goalkeeping basics but it's still a hard skill to perfect. At least McCarthy is starting with a relatively low basis to improve on though so with enough effort put into it (without having a detrimental effect on the rest of his game) he should be able to improve to some degree.

The good thing is that he's still young (in keeper's terms) so there's plenty of time for him to improve it yet. If it hasn't improved in 3-5 years then it may hold him back with regards to playing for England though.

The only slight concern I have is that about a year or so ago I came across comments from when he was playing in the FA Youth Cup and his poor kicking was flagged up even then, and this was 7 seasons ago now.

As for McCarthy's fee, I'd be disappointed with less than £5m. Next summer is going to be interesting as he'll have only a year left on his contract. So depending on which division we're in I can see us either offering him a new one or cashing in.

[P!ssed Off]

£1m for Federici. It's a fair price, McCarthy's value is likely to climb and he's likely to improve. Especially if he can sort out his kicking. We have Taylor as cover. Andersen may be persuaded to stay if he's second choice rather than third. We've also got other young keepers.

We can use the money and the leeway in wages to sign someone in a position we're weaker.

But £3m for McCarthy would probably be hard to resist.

at the thought that selling a player for £1m will raise crucial transfer funds.

at thinking £3m would be "hard to resist" for McCarthy.

We've sold shitter players for much more, and that was pre-Russian when we were more inclined to sell.
I don't see why we'd even consider selling McCarthy for less than £7.5m.

£1m > £0m
Goalkeeper's generally go for less than strikers (most of our big sales) and McCarthy is still pretty inexperienced.

Yes GKs go for less, but I believe this is balanced out (in relation to our other sales) by him being English which generally drives the price up. Plus I think he has more potential than the vast majority of our big sales, with the possible exception of Gylfi.

If we were in our typical position of needing to sell our best players then I'd probably accept him going for £4/5m plus, but we under little pressure to sell him unless we get offered such a good price that to turn it down would seriously piss him off.

[URZZZZZ]

whatever price you have in mind that McCarthy would or should go for, add another 2.5mil for him being english

[Magic Hat]

Butland went to Stoke for £5 million, so I'd be surprised if any club offered much more.

[St. Brynjar]

McCarthy and Federici are two of the best goalkeepers in the league, if we lose one we'll be fine. >£5 mil for McCarthy would be good business. I feel sorry for the heroes of 11/12 - Legs, Federici and Gorkss are all too good not to be playing at this level.

[P!ssed Off]

Butland went to Stoke for £5 million, so I'd be surprised if any club offered much more.

Butland went to Stoke for £3.5m.
Birmingham are poor and shitter than us though.