BFTG - Bolton (a)

[BenReadingFC]

A bit of context would be good.. He could have just bopped someone! Its all relative.

Computers gone mad

in before the edit, oxf*rd

[BenReadingFC]

In my experience young (possibly drunk) people are all the more likely to "act the tough man".. All conjecture of course but trusting a clip that only show the end of whatever happened is a dumb idea.. The uploader is an apprentice spin master

True, but have you ever had to deal with any sort of situation with the unwealding stewards? They are right, You are wrong. Thats about it.

[ManchesterRoyals]

In my experience young (possibly drunk) people are all the more likely to "act the tough man".. All conjecture of course but trusting a clip that only show the end of whatever happened is a dumb idea.. The uploader is an apprentice spin master

True, but have you ever had to deal with any sort of situation with the unwealding stewards? They are right, You are wrong. Thats about it.

To be honest ive not had any trouble with stewards through all my years of going to footie but i seem to have had more trouble with the old bill

[BenReadingFC]

In my experience young (possibly drunk) people are all the more likely to "act the tough man".. All conjecture of course but trusting a clip that only show the end of whatever happened is a dumb idea.. The uploader is an apprentice spin master

True, but have you ever had to deal with any sort of situation with the unwealding stewards? They are right, You are wrong. Thats about it.

To be honest ive not had any trouble with stewards through all my years of going to footie but i seem to have had more trouble with the old bill

Elaborate

[Royal Ginger]

In my experience young (possibly drunk) people are all the more likely to "act the tough man".. All conjecture of course but trusting a clip that only show the end of whatever happened is a dumb idea.. The uploader is an apprentice spin master

No. The guy has his hands up and is compliant. The steward then clearly grips the back of his neck, causing him pain, and pushes him around a bit. Doesn't matter what he dis before hand, that' not acceptable.

[genome]

Pen from Bolton end, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33jkqTmXD8c

[urz13]

In my experience young (possibly drunk) people are all the more likely to "act the tough man".. All conjecture of course but trusting a clip that only show the end of whatever happened is a dumb idea.. The uploader is an apprentice spin master

True, but have you ever had to deal with any sort of situation with the unwealding stewards? They are right, You are wrong. Thats about it.

To be honest ive not had any trouble with stewards through all my years of going to footie but i seem to have had more trouble with the old bill

Considering you're about 12, that can't be many years. What are you, a child serial killer?

[NewCorkSeth]

No. The guy has his hands up and is compliant. The steward then clearly grips the back of his neck, causing him pain, and pushes him around a bit. Doesn't matter what he dis before hand, that' not acceptable.

"We suggested to him we may as well leave through the exit that we were heading towards. He started shouting at us asking us why we had ignored his orders to leave via the exit we were walking away from. All of a sudden, one steward in particular decided to speed our exit up and subsequently pushed my friend (in the video)."

As we can see from the filmers own comment they had literally just ignored this man as he told them which exit to leave through. Their compliance can therefore be untrustworthy. I believe the conversation went something like this

Steward - Leave through this exit. (probably said to quite a few people before hand)
Royal - No we will leave through here instead rather than the exit that has been organised to take us out of this fine stadium.
(all of a sudden)
Steward - You were instructed to leave through this exit. You ignored us so we are kicking you out. (Steward takes Royal by arm and escorts out, grabs his neck for heaven knows what reason but certainly not hard enough to bruise)

Also I think it important to ask why is one of these fans being physically escorted out yet the other one has free reign to move where he likes? obviously it was deemed that the cameraman did not need to be helped on his way out but the other guy did. This is either because 1) he was in the wrong or 2) the stewards a dick. Maybe both!

Now I think it does matter what someone has done beforehand! For instance if I had just punched a baby I'm sure nobody would complain if this steward escorted me out in a similar fashion. Wait, why did I write all this out? Man am I bored..

[ManchesterRoyals]

Considering you're about 12, that can't be many years. What are you, a child serial killer?

Lol why 12 and why child serial killer?

U oxf*rd nonce

[Royal Lady]

If you read the "about" section on that video - they were watching the players warm down and were told to leave, at that point the players came over (I think that's what it said) and they moved to the left to clap them and then when they were leaving, they were leaving by the nearest exit but the steward decided they should leave by the exit HE deemed they should leave through and then enforced his thoughts on them. Absolutely ridiculous stewarding - they were leaving anyway - and according to other comments on that video it's not the first time this has happened with Bolton stewards....

[dizzynewheights]

20 or so mins in Guthrie punted a ball upfield, 30m at least too long, Blackman would have been 20m offside to have had any hope, no chance of reaching it. Reading fans reaction - start chanting for le fondre.

Honestly, I did about 6 games over the last 2 seasons because I am so sick and tired of these shithouse pcunts. Just fook off back to London Irish or whatever you did pre 106

[RoyalBlue]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZRHjcAzCj0&feature=player_embedded

IS this anyone on here. Reading fan being manhandled by Bolton steward

Give them a little bit of power and they are cunts, It makes them feel BIG, *kin Jobsworths

Baldy sad fucking Cunts. It's like a baldy tango clan.

Oompa Loompa's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxgLLGmLL0Q

And these gorilla's IDs are clearly displayed where? (with one possible exception). Clear breach of regulations. And as we citizens are always told by Big Brother HMG, 'If you've got nothing to worry about, why are you worried about being recorded?' Stewards, their employers and Bolton Wanderers should all be fined for this.

[SuperRoyal]

If you read the "about" section on that video - they were watching the players warm down and were told to leave, at that point the players came over (I think that's what it said) and they moved to the left to clap them and then when they were leaving, they were leaving by the nearest exit but the steward decided they should leave by the exit HE deemed they should leave through and then enforced his thoughts on them. Absolutely ridiculous stewarding - they were leaving anyway - and according to other comments on that video it's not the first time this has happened with Bolton stewards....

I'm the guy who filmed it all and you're right. At the point of being asked to leave, we started heading towards an exit (we'll call it Exit 1). As we started leaving, the players came out so we prolonged our time in the stadium by walking along the row towards the next exit along (Exit 2) in order to applaud the players whilst we were heading towards an exit. Steward 1, who had originally asked us to leave, then shouted to Steward 2 - who was situated in between the two exits - telling him to make us walk back towards Exit 1. By this time we were literally a couple of meters away from Exit 2 and my friend told Steward 2 that we may as well leave through the exit we're closest to. We didn't realise this would be such an issue but Steward 2 then started shouting aggressively at us, telling us to leave through Exit 1.

I can only assume Steward 3 (the one in the video) thought he had something to prove to his colleagues because he then grabbed my friend - who had told Steward 2 we would just leave through exit 2 - and ejected him from the stadium using (IMO) excessive force.

[pea]

I'm the guy who filmed it all and you're right. At the point of being asked to leave, we started heading towards an exit (we'll call it Exit 1). As we started leaving, the players came out so we prolonged our time in the stadium by walking along the row towards the next exit along (Exit 2) in order to applaud the players whilst we were heading towards an exit. Steward 1, who had originally asked us to leave, then shouted to Steward 2 - who was situated in between the two exits - telling him to make us walk back towards Exit 1. By this time we were literally a couple of meters away from Exit 2 and my friend told Steward 2 that we may as well leave through the exit we're closest to. We didn't realise this would be such an issue but Steward 2 then started shouting aggressively at us, telling us to leave through Exit 1.

I can only assume Steward 3 (the one in the video) thought he had something to prove to his colleagues because he then grabbed my friend - who had told Steward 2 we would just leave through exit 2 - and ejected him from the stadium using (IMO) excessive force.

They wouldn't have done that for no reason, it may have been that there was a group of Bolton fans nearer that exit who had been goading the Reading fans. All the stewards would have seen was a group of guys trying to leave by an exit further away from their seats without a clear explanation. It is their responsibility to take any measures they think are necessary to prevent crowd trouble. Regardless they need to empty the stadium as soon as possible so that all the post-match work can be completed as quickly as possible as it costs the club the longer the stadium is open/staff are on duty.

If they had asked you to leave by another exit and you ignored them or tried to argue the point rather than just listening to them and complying then any suspicions are likely to have been exaggerated, plus you had already ignored the guy who asked you to leave and stayed longer to clap the players. If the steward has already asked your friend to leave by a certain exit and he's ignored the steward and your group had already stayed in the stadium when they'd ask you to leave then the next course of action is to use slight force to lead him out that exit, which it looks like he's done in the video, hardly excessive force in my opinion.

The stewards actions got the job done and with no harm done to anyone, apart from maybe hurting your friends pride a little - but considering you'd all rudely ignored the requests of stewards just trying to do their job in the first place I don't think many people will lose sleep over that.

[Big Foot]

There seems to be a large number of undercover stewards on this thread. Tossers.

[Big Foot]

Blackman took an eternity to take the penalty (so it seemed) - ref blew his whistle then he looked over at the ref like a nervous child looking for encouragement from his Father, before taking the penalty.

I was convinced he was going to miss it.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

should have decked the bald headed oxf*rd.

[SuperRoyal]

They wouldn't have done that for no reason, it may have been that there was a group of Bolton fans nearer that exit who had been goading the Reading fans.

The exit we headed towards was actually away from where the Bolton fans were sitting.

All the stewards would have seen was a group of guys trying to leave by an exit further away from their seats without a clear explanation.

There were two of us and we had clearly explained to them that we wished to applaud the players whilst they warmed down.

It is their responsibility to take any measures they think are necessary to prevent crowd trouble.

The stewards created the trouble in this instance.

Regardless they need to empty the stadium as soon as possible so that all the post-match work can be completed as quickly as possible as it costs the club the longer the stadium is open/staff are on duty.

From the moment they asked us to leave, we were always heading towards an exit.

If they had asked you to leave by another exit and you ignored them or tried to argue the point rather than just listening to them and complying then any suspicions are likely to have been exaggerated, plus you had already ignored the guy who asked you to leave and stayed longer to clap the players.

We didn't think that leaving via the next exit along would be such an issue, plus we didn't ignore them when they asked us to leave - we were heading towards an exit.

If the steward has already asked your friend to leave by a certain exit and he's ignored the steward and your group had already stayed in the stadium when they'd ask you to leave then the next course of action is to use slight force to lead him out that exit, which it looks like he's done in the video

The steward actually used force to lead him out of Exit 2 - the exit we were heading towards!

hardly excessive force in my opinion.

He gripped the back of my friends neck for no reason at all - my friend was walking away with his hands up. Once the steward had ejected my friend, the steward then pinned my friend up against a wall.

The stewards actions got the job done and with no harm done to anyone, apart from maybe hurting your friends pride a little - but considering you'd all rudely ignored the requests of stewards just trying to do their job in the first place I don't think many people will lose sleep over that.

See above.

[Ian Royal]

Make a complaint to the Bolton, see if you can get RFC and STAR (they must be good for something) involved.

If you don't report it, nothing will change. I've not watched the video, but it sounds like you've got a decent amount of evidence for a complaint.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

with Ian on this one, no ID on show etc, despite my tongue in cheek comment you were hardly going to take this bunch on.