How long will Adkins last???

[The Quiet Man]

I must admit I'm also worried that Royalee, the twat that knows f*ck all about real football backed both Rodgers and now Adkins, not looking good for Nigel's long term career at RFC .

[Royalee]

You tossers gave Coppell 3 years to sort his team out, 3 years for McDermott to get it right and now you want Adkins sacked after 3 months of competitive games? I'd have thought some of you might have learnt from our playoff defeat to Brendan Rodgers' Swansea and his rise to the Liverpool job while we're no better off than 4 years ago, but idiots never cease to amaze.

You keep going on about Swansea this, Liverpool that, we're talking about Reading here.

Get with the program.

Yep, we're here because our fans had no patience 3 seasons ago which is the point I'm making with that last post. If you look at the best managers around, they've all been afforded time to build their own teams with the exception of maybe one man in Mourinho who's the best manager on the planet. All Reading fans need to get behind Adkins and the team, encourage them to express themselves on the ball and build confidence.

We're 4 games into the season, 2 points worse off than when we set the points record in 2006 and 5 points from top of the league for Christ's sake, with all 4 games being against teams which should finish in the top 10. It takes a lot longer than 13 games having inherited a relegated team to create a winning mentality again and also to completely change the style of football for the better. How many people were complaining at half time 10 days ago when we were stuffing one of the favourite to win the league out of sight playing brilliant football? Get behind the management and the team, I'm sick to death of some of the idiots on here.

[Cureton's Volley]

we're no better off than 4 years ago, but idiots never cease to amaze.

We overachieved for two seasons in a row, reaching the P/O final and then went on to win the Championship. We were favourites to get relegated from the moment we won promotion, and it went to form. In the meantime the club has grown its profile, fanbase and developed the infrastructure and academy. So you are wrong.

I simply can't believe how rattled you are about a poxy relegation from the Premier League, one of the strongest divisions in world football. It was hardly like we went down QPR style, bottom of the league after splashing shit loads of cash and arrogant 'we're too good' comments. Furthermore we were playing much stronger opposition than the likes we have been facing recently, and indeed last night.

IMO the only thing we have lost since 4 years ago is a little class... but apparently we are now trying to replace it with 'a new style'???

[AirRaidSiren]

You tossers gave Coppell 3 years to sort his team out, 3 years for McDermott to get it right and now you want Adkins sacked after 3 months of competitive games? I'd have thought some of you might have learnt from our playoff defeat to Brendan Rodgers' Swansea and his rise to the Liverpool job while we're no better off than 4 years ago, but idiots never cease to amaze.

You keep going on about Swansea this, Liverpool that, we're talking about Reading here.

Get with the program.

Yep, we're here because our fans had no patience 3 seasons ago which is the point I'm making with that last post. If you look at the best managers around, they've all been afforded time to build their own teams with the exception of maybe one man in Mourinho who's the best manager on the planet. All Reading fans need to get behind Adkins and the team, encourage them to express themselves on the ball and build confidence.

We're 4 games into the season, 2 points worse off than when we set the points record in 2006 and 5 points from top of the league for Christ's sake, with all 4 games being against teams which should finish in the top 10. It takes a lot longer than 13 games having inherited a relegated team to create a winning mentality again and also to completely change the style of football for the better. How many people were complaining at half time 10 days ago when we were stuffing one of the favourite to win the league out of sight playing brilliant football? Get behind the management and the team, I'm sick to death of some of the idiots on here.

Good post.

Some of our fans expect instant success and the same ones make mountains out of mole hills.

[Royalee]

Ithe twat that knows f*ck all about real football backed both Rodgers and now Adkins

You mean the man managing the team second in the country with a game in hand who led his next team to a 4-2 playoff final victory over us and consolidation in the Premiership? Yeah, I'M the idiot

[Royalee]

we're no better off than 4 years ago, but idiots never cease to amaze.

We overachieved for two seasons in a row, reaching the P/O final and then went on to win the Championship. We were favourites to get relegated from the moment we won promotion, and it went to form. In the meantime the club has grown its profile, fanbase and developed the infrastructure and academy. So you are wrong.

I simply can't believe how rattled you are about a poxy relegation from the Premier League, one of the strongest divisions in world football. It was hardly like we went down QPR style, bottom of the league after splashing shit loads of cash and arrogant 'we're too good' comments. Furthermore we were playing much stronger opposition than the likes we have been facing recently, and indeed last night.

IMO the only thing we have lost since 4 years ago is a little class... but apparently we are now trying to replace it with 'a new style'???

How did we 'overachieve' when the expectation was promotion in the seasons before and after McDermott was in charge?

The development of the academy and infrastructure is to do with Nick Hammond and Anton who set the plans in place - you know, the other two most on here were slating too last night - nothing to do with McDermott. Whilst we're on that point though, you might want to note that Sigurdsson, Karacan, Pearce and Robson-Kanu were already playing for the first team 4 years ago and we've not really had anyone through since so you can't really argue it's any better off now than it was then.

[Sanguine]

I think 'over-achieved' is a bit of a red herring, derived from us going on a ridiculous run of form in the second half of the season. Over-achieved in respect of where we were in Jan/Feb? Absolutely. Over-achieved in terms of the overall expectation for RFC for the season? Not really, imho.

[M Brook]

I think 'over-achieved' is a bit of a red herring, derived from us going on a ridiculous run of form in the second half of the season. Over-achieved in respect of where we were in Jan/Feb? Absolutely. Over-achieved in terms of the overall expectation for RFC for the season? Not really, imho.

Over-acheived in terms of how good we really were that season.

[Lower West]

I simply can't believe how rattled you are about a poxy relegation from the Premier League, one of the strongest divisions in world football.

Over rated not strongest. The "big" clubs are light years ahead in terms of playing squads now. Much of the football played is at best mediocre. Reminds me when big bucks Serie A was all the rage. Now Italian league football hardly gets a mention.

[Tilehurstsouthbank]

I think 'over-achieved' is a bit of a red herring, derived from us going on a ridiculous run of form in the second half of the season. Over-achieved in respect of where we were in Jan/Feb? Absolutely. Over-achieved in terms of the overall expectation for RFC for the season? Not really, imho.

We also had the fourth highest (open for correction here but I'm sure this is right) wage budget in the Championship that season. So was it really over achieving?

[Reading4eva]

I wonder if he'll walk if hes not backed this week?

[sandman]

I think 'over-achieved' is a bit of a red herring, derived from us going on a ridiculous run of form in the second half of the season. Over-achieved in respect of where we were in Jan/Feb? Absolutely. Over-achieved in terms of the overall expectation for RFC for the season? Not really, imho.

We also had the fourth highest (open for correction here but I'm sure this is right) wage budget in the Championship that season. So was it really over achieving?

Let me ask you a question. Is Adam Le Fondre a better player than Shane Long?

[blueroyals]

Whilst not the best, this squad is viewed by many as capable of promotion. If he walks it will reflect badly on him IMO

[Green]

Adkins has been fighting an uphill struggle ever since Royalee backed him. Talk about the kiss of death.

[Cureton's Volley]

How did we 'overachieve' when the expectation was promotion in the seasons before and after McDermott was in charge?

1) Promotion was the target, yes - but for most it was not the expectation

2) I did not expect us to improve our so much each season despite losing our best players

3) Even if promotion was the expectation, to win the league was undoubtedly an achievement which went above and beyond what anyone sane expected for that season

Anyone who quotes the wage bill, I agree as the fourth largest it was significant and hence we expected to finish top 6... but to say we were expected to finish top above the likes the Hammers is pure BS.

The development of the academy and infrastructure is to do with Nick Hammond and Anton who set the plans in place - you know, the other two most on here were slating too last night - nothing to do with McDermott.

How can you believe McDermott had 'nothing to do with' the infrastructure and academy when he was involved at Reading for 13 years including positions as chief scout, under 19's manager & reserve team manager, before becoming the boss?

Whilst we're on that point though, you might want to note that Sigurdsson, Karacan, Pearce and Robson-Kanu were already playing for the first team 4 years ago and we've not really had anyone through since so you can't really argue it's any better off now than it was then.

This perhaps is a genuine point, where the only evidence we have on the contrary is securing Cat 1 status... but it is hard to say either way as youth was hardly been given a chance to break through due to the fact we got promoted and attempted to go with players with 1st team experience (even if at a lower level) instead.

[RoyallyFcuked]

You tossers gave Coppell 3 years to sort his team out, 3 years for McDermott to get it right and now you want Adkins sacked after 3 months of competitive games? I'd have thought some of you might have learnt from our playoff defeat to Brendan Rodgers' Swansea and his rise to the Liverpool job while we're no better off than 4 years ago, but idiots never cease to amaze.

You keep going on about Swansea this, Liverpool that, we're talking about Reading here.

Get with the program.

Yep, we're here because our fans had no patience 3 seasons ago which is the point I'm making with that last post. If you look at the best managers around, they've all been afforded time to build their own teams with the exception of maybe one man in Mourinho who's the best manager on the planet. All Reading fans need to get behind Adkins and the team, encourage them to express themselves on the ball and build confidence.

We're 4 games into the season, 2 points worse off than when we set the points record in 2006 and 5 points from top of the league for Christ's sake, with all 4 games being against teams which should finish in the top 10. It takes a lot longer than 13 games having inherited a relegated team to create a winning mentality again and also to completely change the style of football for the better. How many people were complaining at half time 10 days ago when we were stuffing one of the favourite to win the league out of sight playing brilliant football? Get behind the management and the team, I'm sick to death of some of the idiots on here.

+1

Pretty much spot on.

[Platypuss]

The Team at its very finest.

[Cureton's Volley]

[jellytot]

stupid thread.

1 This season is not a write off yet!
2 we are in a period of transition.
3. we have to get rid of players who cannot do what na want. takes time contracts etc.
Some players under Rogers did not put in much of a shift. same under ma sadly.
4 az is not so stupid to do something rash . There is a plan in place. Academy etc
5 patience needed. Ma will.get it.right but this.season may not be successful.

[royal67]

'seadobe'.....? Is that the third release of the popular imaging software Adobe?