The Champions League Thread 2013/14

[Pepe the Horseman]

How the fcuk are last season's runners up in pot 3?

[YateleyRoyal]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23680545

Based on performance over 5 years, with no weighting to recent seasons.

[No Fixed Abode]

Yes, we're the top seeded English side.

[TBM]

Arsenal probably got the "easiest" team in pot 2 (Marseille)

Milan and Barca been drawn together

Chelsea get Schalke

[Royalclapper]

Arsenal shouldn't be in Pot 1 either, they're shit.

[TBM]

Arsenal shouldn't be in Pot 1 either, they're shit.

They've qualified for 16 seasons in a row now, and always made it through to the knockout stage.....thats why they are there

[TBM]

Madrid and Juventus together

[YateleyRoyal]

Arsenal Marseille
Chelsea Schalke
ManUre Shaktar

[TBM]

Arsenal Marseille Dortmund
Chelsea Schalke Basel
ManUre Shaktar Olympiacos

[Royalclapper]

Arsenal shouldn't be in Pot 1 either, they're shit.

They've qualified for 16 seasons in a row now, and always made it through to the knockout stage.....thats why they are there

Yes I get that but they haven't won their own domestic league for a decade, unlike the other genuine top seeds.

[stealthpapes]

Can't say I'm particularly bothered about Scottish football, but that was a very enjoyable game.
I can understand Lennon and Brown, but what's wrong with their fans ?

Ugh, such atrocious spelling. History's worst monsters.

[stealthpapes]

Arsenal shouldn't be in Pot 1 either, they're shit.

They've qualified for 16 seasons in a row now, and always made it through to the knockout stage.....thats why they are there

Yes I get that but they haven't won their own domestic league for a decade, unlike the other genuine top seeds.

Seeding is nothing to do with how they qualified but based on results within the tournament over a period of time to try and compare like with like.

It's certainly not based on emotional assessments like "they're shit"

[Super_horns]

Easy for Chelsea and Man City should be ok to get 2nd at least as with Man U.

Nightmare for Arsenal and Celtic.

[No Fixed Abode]

CeLOLtic!

Please with our group.

[Royalclapper]

I get why UEFA seed the teams and the need to have a ranking system in place, but by any stretch of the imagination Arsenal are being afforded a status that's way beyond their ability level. If you get an easy group it's possible to keep getting through while better teams do not. It's never going to be perfect of course and the luck of the draw is important, it just doesn't sit right when you've got Dortmund and Man City ranked lower than Arsenal.

[No Fixed Abode]

I get why UEFA seed the teams and the need to have a ranking system in place, but by any stretch of the imagination Arsenal are being afforded a status that's way beyond their ability level. If you get an easy group it's possible to keep getting through while better teams do not. It's never going to be perfect of course and the luck of the draw is important, it just doesn't sit right when you've got Dortmund and Man City ranked lower than Arsenal.

Of course Arsenal should be ranked above Dortmund and City. Fair enough Dortmund were runners up last year but City didn't win a CL game last season did they? Dortmund haven't qualified all the time and City are Johnny come lately s.

[Royalclapper]

I get why UEFA seed the teams and the need to have a ranking system in place, but by any stretch of the imagination Arsenal are being afforded a status that's way beyond their ability level. If you get an easy group it's possible to keep getting through while better teams do not. It's never going to be perfect of course and the luck of the draw is important, it just doesn't sit right when you've got Dortmund and Man City ranked lower than Arsenal.

Of course Arsenal should be ranked above Dortmund and City. Fair enough Dortmund were runners up last year but City didn't win a CL game last season did they? Dortmund haven't qualified all the time and City are Johnny come lately s.

That's why the point was made about the groups. Chelsea were knocked out in the group stages but I understand their ranking. Arsenal are way above their level which ever way you look at it, great club as they are, there's no way they are a top seed.

And Lolz at a Chelsea fan calling City JCL's. Never in their wildest dreams did Chelsea ever think they had a place at European Football's top table until the rouble came along. That's why they didn't like Benitez because he exposed them for what they are i.e. JCL overachieving nouveau riche who could never get anywhere near that standard of competition.

[Sanguine]

Seedings are based on performances in Europe. It's actually pretty simple.

[stealthpapes]

Maybe a shorter time period but that at least smoothes things out.

[No Fixed Abode]

I get why UEFA seed the teams and the need to have a ranking system in place, but by any stretch of the imagination Arsenal are being afforded a status that's way beyond their ability level. If you get an easy group it's possible to keep getting through while better teams do not. It's never going to be perfect of course and the luck of the draw is important, it just doesn't sit right when you've got Dortmund and Man City ranked lower than Arsenal.

Of course Arsenal should be ranked above Dortmund and City. Fair enough Dortmund were runners up last year but City didn't win a CL game last season did they? Dortmund haven't qualified all the time and City are Johnny come lately s.

That's why the point was made about the groups. Chelsea were knocked out in the group stages but I understand their ranking. Arsenal are way above their level which ever way you look at it, great club as they are, there's no way they are a top seed.

And Lolz at a Chelsea fan calling City JCL's. Never in their wildest dreams did Chelsea ever think they had a place at European Football's top table until the rouble came along. That's why they didn't like Benitez because he exposed them for what they are i.e. JCL overachieving nouveau riche who could never get anywhere near that standard of competition.

Yeah. We've only qualified 8 (eight) more times than City.