CONFIRMED - Billy Sharp

[melonhead]

MH always makes a fair point although I concur he's a little bit like talking to a Scientologist. He can't break from the party line or else the club will release his history of pet-noncing.

selling kebe
oxf*rd around with pearce's contract last year
sacking brian
criticising brian when he was sacked and blaming him for not spending
giving jason roberts another contract
selling Nhunt without having any idea of who we could get in to replace him
refusing to have collars on the shirts despite it guaranteeing we wont get promoted if we dont
allowing the band into the stadium

[melonhead]

Someone suggest it to the club. I'll happily do it for a 20% discount on my season ticket. But only if I can continue to use foul and abusive language and aggressive sarcasm. If they want professionalism, I'll need £5k a year as a second job minimum.

i think i actually emailed them a couple of years back, saying i was spending alarge ammount of my time defending the clubs finances from attack by a pack of HNA mongers, suggesting they should pay me a small salary for this service.
and they didnt even have the decency to reply

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

Someone suggest it to the club. I'll happily do it for a 20% discount on my season ticket. But only if I can continue to use foul and abusive language and aggressive sarcasm. If they want professionalism, I'll need £5k a year as a second job minimum.

i think i actually emailed them a couple of years back, saying i was spending alarge ammount of my time defending the clubs finances from attack by a pack of HNA mongers, suggesting they should pay me a small salary for this service.
and they didnt even have the decency to reply

maybe because they knew the "HNA mongers" were in fact correct...???

[Ian Royal]

Someone suggest it to the club. I'll happily do it for a 20% discount on my season ticket. But only if I can continue to use foul and abusive language and aggressive sarcasm. If they want professionalism, I'll need £5k a year as a second job minimum.

i think i actually emailed them a couple of years back, saying i was spending alarge ammount of my time defending the clubs finances from attack by a pack of HNA mongers, suggesting they should pay me a small salary for this service.
and they didnt even have the decency to reply

maybe because they knew the "HNA mongers" were in fact correct...???

Funniest thing I've seen on HNA in months.

[TBM]

TBM said its like renting a house, dead money. no it is not ,it is the difference between a full MAD STAD and an empty one. Pay the wages and say goodbye to the championship again.Then splash out to stay there in the premier div.

Billy Sharp will guarantee a full stadium?

£18k a week for a player that is no better than what we already have that we then give back at the end of the season, and if we don't go up = dead money

errr

ALF 149 goals in 366 appearances
Pog 119 in 347 (and a lot of those goals came some years ago)
Blackman 30 in 118

Sharp 141 in 310 (better than any of the above)

Roberts good but unlikely to play much of a part this season. ALF is carrying all our hopes on his shoulders.

So what if we cannot have him permanently - we are talking about a 13 week emergency loan to get us nearly to the next transfer window.

lol @ using past years instead of current ability

[winchester_royal]

Add this thread to the list of many that need to be put out of their misery...

[paddy20]

Add this thread to the list of many that need to be put out of their misery...

Pretty sad that it now takes a very average champ. striker for us all to get excited.

[dogzbollox]

What ever figure you have you can easily triple that if you include Agent fees and signing on fees. Every single payment that goes into bringing a player to the football club has to come from somewhere. You sooner people understand, the less of this crap we will hear from deluded fans

Yes all part of the costs of running a club admittedly but we only spent just over 2M on agents fees (PL own figures - see below). As for signing on fees I suspect the only big one was to Pog (reputedly a 2M signing on fee) and that looks increasingly like the worst bit of business ever to have been done by the club - unless he turns it round this season and gets us back up with 15 plus goals.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j& ... d7Zzcynf9w

I think you may find that Pogs signing on fee was closer to £5m - according to Michael Calvin's book 'The Nowhere Men':

'Pogrebnyak duly joined Reading on a four year contract, estimated to be anywhere between £45,000 and £65,000 a week. He received a seven-figure signing on fee, thought by some to be close to £5 million. Dr Oliver Wendt, a Hamburg based agent on the periphery of the deal, surprised no one when he admitted money was a determining factor'

The chapter was actually related Fulham incidentally, not about Reading

[St. Brynjar]

What ever figure you have you can easily triple that if you include Agent fees and signing on fees. Every single payment that goes into bringing a player to the football club has to come from somewhere. You sooner people understand, the less of this crap we will hear from deluded fans

Yes all part of the costs of running a club admittedly but we only spent just over 2M on agents fees (PL own figures - see below). As for signing on fees I suspect the only big one was to Pog (reputedly a 2M signing on fee) and that looks increasingly like the worst bit of business ever to have been done by the club - unless he turns it round this season and gets us back up with 15 plus goals.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j& ... d7Zzcynf9w

I think you may find that Pogs signing on fee was closer to £5m - according to Michael Calvin's book 'The Nowhere Men':

'Pogrebnyak duly joined Reading on a four year contract, estimated to be anywhere between £45,000 and £65,000 a week. He received a seven-figure signing on fee, thought by some to be close to £5 million. Dr Oliver Wendt, a Hamburg based agent on the periphery of the deal, surprised no one when he admitted money was a determining factor'

The chapter was actually related Fulham incidentally, not about Reading

'Thought by some' is the same as the mirror reporting 'sources suggest' or '.....is being tracked by'

[Ian Royal]

I expect Guthrie got a pretty hefty signing on fee too. Shorey probably got something, albeit smaller.

[Haag Royal]

I expect Guthrie got a pretty hefty signing on fee too. Shorey probably got something, albeit smaller.

Not as much as Shane Long will get when he re signs in a few days.

[Ian Royal]

I expect Guthrie got a pretty hefty signing on fee too. Shorey probably got something, albeit smaller.

Not as much as Shane Long will get when he re signs in a few days.

Which'll be quickly eclipsed by Gylfi's.

[Cypry]

The more I think about it the more I conclude that certain people like Crypy and Melonhead on here must be paid employees of the club because the tone of their posts is that no dissent should be allowed under any circumstances...ever. Any criticism (however merited) is met by a tirade of abuse and counter arguments.

We know from the Snowdon leaks that the USA employ tens of thousands of people to not only eavesdrop on everyone, but also to plant disinformation on the web. Perhaps RFC do the same.

Or perhaps my paranoia is raring up again and I need to see my doctor.

Absolutely spot on.

Without mentioning names it is hopefully obvious to most now that RFC has at leat an indirect propaganda presence here. The self-contradictory and ever changing arguments from certain folk that I have repeatedly been torn to shreds by those of us with half a brain cell are now all too obvious to everyone, or should be.

1000s of fans of a wide range of intellect I come across through certain means are pretty much unanimous in what they see happening yet there is a distinct completely disproportionate vocal voice on HNA who are hell bent on defending the club no matter what happens. It doesn't correlate with reality and so it is clear where at least some of it comes from.

You can't blame RFC though: a big company that *doesnt* use social media platforms to infiltrate and defend itself undercover, when everyone is criticising them, is one that is rather naive. If it doesn't happen I'd be even more concerned!!

Having said that HNA is an irritating place to be with these infiltrating RFC apologists. And if it genuinely isn't infiltration as I say it begs the question why are RFC not doing it? And what possesses lay people to humiliate themselves repeatedly with blind defence of the club for no obvious reason??

The fact is this: we are still little Reading (albeit a bit less little now) but the club think they can get away with mikhailoving players and managers into joining us by feeding them false promises of big Reading. Why on earth do we as fans act so surprised then when we are also mikhailoved into buying season tickets with the promise of a major squad improvement only to find we have a weaker squad with an outsude chance of playoffs??

Ok, ok I'll admit it. The reason the club didn't make any signings late in the Window is because they paid me a seven figure sum to toe the party line on HNA....

What a pair of oxf*rd bellends you two are.....not content with conspiracy theories about the clubs finances you now come out with this drivel.....

[Royal Lady]

Whoever is the cheaper between Long and Sharp, we should be bringing them in - they're both much of a muchness to me - but fact is, we need SOMEONE and we need them fast.

[andrew1957]

lol @ using past years instead of current ability

Not sure what your point is but if we look at the last two seasons results are much the same.

ALF 27 from 71
Blackman 12 from 40
POG 11 FROM 41

Sharp 21 FROM 49

Not knocking ALF - he is very good but we could do with another goal scorer. I am still also hoping Pog steps up. Sharp is pretty much a goal every other game player at this level.

[andrew1957]

Whoever is the cheaper between Long and Sharp, we should be bringing them in - they're both much of a muchness to me - but fact is, we need SOMEONE and we need them fast.

IMO Long>>>>>>Sharp but we have no realistic hope of getting Long to step back down to the Championship apart perhaps a very outside chance of a short term loan to regain fitness. Long is proven at PL level now whereas Sharp is a very good player at Championship level but has not yet stepped up to PL level.

[Royal Lady]

Whoever is the cheaper between Long and Sharp, we should be bringing them in - they're both much of a muchness to me - but fact is, we need SOMEONE and we need them fast.

IMO Long>>>>>>Sharp but we have no realistic hope of getting Long to step back down to the Championship apart perhaps a very outside chance of a short term loan to regain fitness. Long is proven at PL level now whereas Sharp is a very good player at Championship level but has not yet stepped up to PL level.

I meant as in style of player - and, in any case, I'd take Sharp in a heartbeat - Blackman isn't even a very good player at Championship level (not his fault being shoved straight in at the deep end, btw - I have nothing against him per se, he's just not ready to be playing up front every week). Not sure why people are bothered about whether players have stepped up to PL level - our main concern should be getting into a position where PL football next season is a REAL possibility first....

[peterroyal76]

Whoever is the cheaper between Long and Sharp, we should be bringing them in - they're both much of a muchness to me - but fact is, we need SOMEONE and we need them fast.

They are completely different players.

[ddetisi]

Whoever is the cheaper between Long and Sharp, we should be bringing them in - they're both much of a muchness to me - but fact is, we need SOMEONE and we need them fast.

They are completely different players.

Clearly they aren't the same.

[Royal Lady]

Yeah well done. If you look at my post before you two chipped in, I said they are the same "style" of player - put themselves about a bit, can hold up the ball etc if you need me to expand. Absolutely DESPERATE for a striker now.